Clemson troubles may impact more than recruiting

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#26
Maybe I'm not reading the article right but doesn't it suggest that Hamilton is NOT the man they want.
 
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PennVol said:
Should Texas fire Mack Brown right now??

(Btw, I loathed Fulmer at the end and want him as far away from the unveristy as possible)
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Brown has had Texas nationally relevant every year before this one. Fulmer had us slipping out of the national spotlight by 2005. Big difference.
 
#28
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PennVol said:
that's absurd. There is no rational defense for firing Fulmer after '05. If you were the AD, I'm sure you wouldn't have had the balls to do it. And if you had the balls, you wouldn't have been a very wise AD.
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I would have fired him before he left the locker room after the Vandy loss.
 
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iuvol2012 said:
Brown has had Texas nationally relevant every year before this one. Fulmer had us slipping out of the national spotlight by 2005. Big difference.
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Somewhat agreed, but winning 11 in '01, 10 in '03, 10 in '04.....3 out of 4 seaons leading into the debacle of '05 they won 10 games. You can't fire a guy who has had success and then has one losing season. '08 was the only real opportunity. Again, Just defending Hammy's firing of fulmer in '08...
 
#32
#32
b/c our football team has struggled lately and our basketball team is under NCAA investigation....it's the american way: when in doubt, blame "the man".
 
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volbeast33 said:
I think Mike Hamilton has done an excellent job as Tennessee's AD and I think we will miss him if he leaves.
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i agree 100%...people really need to be careful what they wish for. all these posters that want fulmer in charge of the athletic department... bleeding orange is not enough...i bleed orange also but they sure dont want me in charge.
 
#35
#35
Hamilton is not a god-send of an AD, he has made some decisions that seemed great at the time but backfired badly (ala Buzz and Lane), and some other questionable ones with contract stuff...but we could be in a much worse boat.
 
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rsm said:
i agree 100%...people really need to be careful what they wish for. all these posters that want fulmer in charge of the athletic department... bleeding orange is not enough...i bleed orange also but they sure dont want me in charge.
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Just because I along with others want MH gone doesn't mean we want Fulmer as AD....I sure as hell don't want Fulmer anywhere near the job if Hamilton leaves
 
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PennVol said:
Hamilton is not a god-send of an AD, he has made some decisions that seemed great at the time but backfired badly (ala Buzz and Lane), and some other questionable ones with contract stuff...but we could be in a much worse boat.
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I guess having three of your sports programs being looked into by the NCAA is a good thing? :loco:
 
#39
#39
People need to get over the whole MH thing. All AD's make bad hires at one point or another. Buzz was his bad hire. His baseball hire wasn't great but it's not like that is a huge moneymaker for the university. He did everything that fans wanted him to do after that. Hired a good up and coming coach in Pearl to make us relevant in bball. Kiffin was a good hire. Unfortunately the worst scenario for MH in that case came to fruition. Now he has made a hire that is at the other spectrum from Kiffin and it is working out pretty well so far.

Some of you people just want to fire someone for the fun of it. We could end up with Fulmer at AD. That is something no one wants.
 
#41
#41
I dont understand the relevance of clemson football here but i guess when they are talking about hiring our AD then lets get down to it.... Mike Hamilton - hired bruce pearl, no matter what has happened, best hire since, well, fulmer in the early 90's (2 SEC champ, 5 eastern titles and unos NC... should of had 2 more, 99 and 01. Fired Fulmer, had to be done but 2 years to late, negative. Lane Kiffin, great spark and a lot of nation attention for football team and conference, but left us high and dry. Hammy mistake, crappy contract and buy out for lane and company, negative... Todd Reliegh, by far his biggest mistake but Hamilton will have a chance to make up for it after this year, still a poor decision. Derrick Dooley, time will only tell but early indication IMO not bad if 8-4 is the standard, which by the way was for fulmer (in his contract) definetly a negative to Hamilton. If DD can get Dline and Oline going we should be in good shape and 8-4 will be a dissapointing year, in the future. My prediction, eastern champs in 2 years possible next year. Without kiffin(recruiting bray) and bray staying loyal to the vols we would be set back another year or two. Now, about the comment were Hamilton has increased profits at UT, if I'm not mistaken but Alabama took over as attendence leader in SEC, with a smaller stadium, First time in 30 plus years, I'm not a finance major but I would guess that UT has lost revenue over last 3 plus years, in football, negative. UT has done well in track and field, tennis and swimming, don't know if Hamilton gets credit but he is the AD, positive. All in all, I would say let Hamilton go to Clemson. Hire Fulmer, love for the university goes a long way and he knows what it takes to win and unfortunately for him, he understands how hard it is to stay on top. I think Fulmer could really help Dooley, not with building a program, but more important maintaining a program because of his failures. but more than likely we are stuck with hamilton unless Dooley fails........

Sorry for the long post but its my first one in a long time. I had to break myself back in....
 
#42
#42
well mh has certainly managed our finances.. thats one thing he's done... but the lane thing leads me to believe he's a douche..... mike leach would have been much better than lane... talk about WR University again!
 
#43
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StoVol said:
well mh has certainly managed our finances.. thats one thing he's done... but the lane thing leads me to believe he's a douche..... mike leach would have been much better than lane... talk about WR University again!
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Leach is just as big a douche as Kiffin
 
#44
#44
MH has made his mistakes but I'd rather we fired him than a smaller school hired him away. Also Phil should never take an AD job here and should never solicit for one. He's made enough from this University already.
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#45
#45
VOLfrombama said:
Please clemson, you need a fearless leader like hamilton to be your new AD and make spectacular decisions on behalf of athletics. Please come sweep him off his feet. I know a few peeps that will rent a moving truck and help him pack!
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this shows how stupid m hamilton haters are. look at what he has done with our facilities in b ball and football during one of the toughest economic times in 70 years...jesus get over it. he has hired 2 great staffs the past 2 years and a awsome b ball coach...
 
#47
#47
Buzz was hired in 2001 I thought and Dickey didnt leave till 2002 . When all the stories about Kiffin playing USC videos in the complex and the the baseball coach are my 2 beefs with Hamilton . He couldnt fire Fulmer in 2005 because the money folks did not want him fired and only till the apathy set in during the 2008 season could he fire him then
 
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volfrombama said:
please clemson, you need a fearless leader like hamilton to be your new ad and make spectacular decisions on behalf of athletics. Please come sweep him off his feet. I know a few peeps that will rent a moving truck and help him pack!
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amen.
 
#49
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rickyyrs said:
It better be. lol I really think we are set at coaching. Summitt-Lady Vols Dooley-football Pearl-basketball. Tennessee has some good coaches at all levels, Now we need a baseball coach, where is Phil Garner at?
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#50
#50
I don't know much about the politics and **** that goes with being an AD.. I just follow the football and basketball teams themselves..

What exactly did Hamilton do wrong? I'm asking that as a legit question, cause I really know nothing about what he's in control of other than hiring/firing coaches.
 
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