Clawson

#326
#326
volfanbill said:
did anyone notice how much calmer and overall better Crompton looked in the shotgun formation? Why didn't we use that more? We could even run out of the formation to keep it honest with Hardesty's speed.
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i know what you mean. i grimaced every time i saw him line up under center since you knew he was going to get pressure and make another bad pass. we better get used to it though. that's probably what clawson will be running all year.
 
#328
#328
IMO, it wasn't all Clawson's fault. CPF, as usual, couldn't keep his hand out of the play calling cookie jar and it showed.
 
#329
#329
tidybowlchamps said:
IMO, it wasn't all Clawson's fault. CPF, as usual, couldn't keep his hand out of the play calling cookie jar and it showed.
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i still don't see how everyone says that was a fulmer-esque offense on the field. we passed the ball 42 times, even when it was obviously not working.
 
#331
#331
duckman398686 said:
i still don't see how everyone says that was a fulmer-esque offense on the field. we passed the ball 42 times, even when it was obviously not working.
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Yep, I think Clawson thought Crompton was a pass away from a big play continually. On a bright note... Crompton at least finished (as in the drive to put us in the position to kick the game-tying FG) strong. If he failed, or threw an INT... the impact to his confidence could be huge. He needs confidence to attain poise. He needs poise to play to his potential.
 
#332
#332
With the way those tackles were dominating our OL, for the life of me, I don't see why Clawson didn't roll Crompton out.
 
#333
#333
g8terh8ter_eric said:
We had better execution the last two years with Ainge as the starter. Why?? He knew HOW to EXECUTE the offense. Cut didn't teach him that, that's something you have to learn on the job. How do most people get better on the job?? EXPERIENCE. :good!:
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Alright, friend. I've listened to your idiotic comments for too many pages and remained silent. However, this last one is the most ridiculous, poorly thought out example of weak reasoning and football knowledge yet. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

"Cut didn't teach him" to execute? Really? Really. Did you watch Erik Ainge "execute" in 2005? It's safe to say Cut taught him how to execute in the offseason between 2005 and 2006. I was at the 2006 Cal game, and that was a totally different Erik Ainge, from reads to fundamentals to the way he carried himself.

I've also heard you removing blame from the offensive coordinator. First, execution is ENTIRELY on his watch. Second, you cannot, in any rational or sane way, justify throwing 42 times on the road in the first game of the season with a new starter at QB. Did we have Todd Helton do that against Georgia in 1994? No. We ran the ball to the tune of about 300 yards and a win in Athens. I can't believe I'm saying something positive about Randy Sanders, but at least he leaned on Travis Henry and almost upset Florida when we had a new starter in 2000.

Execution aside, it is entirely the COORDINATOR's job to analyze how his QB is performing, and adjust accordingly. If my QB is throwing balls high, in the dirt, getting sacked, and looking shaky, I'm adjusting my playcalling. I lean heavily on the run and our vaunted G-Gun, and I throw easy dump passes, play action roll outs to the TEs and Fullbacks, etc.

Finally, last night I saw a 3rd string QB at UCLA out-execute us with no line, and no offensive weapons whatsoever. He was a basket case in the first half, and his COORDINATOR made adjustments for the second half (similar to those described above) and he calmed down, picked us apart, and beat us.

No matter how you slice it, this is one of those games where you run the ball ad nauseum, throw a few select screens and play actions (certainly not 42 of them, though), lean on your running game and defense, and get the W. This loss is entirely on the coaches, in my opinion. We have beaten better teams with less due to a more intelligent gameplan.
 
#334
#334
GenNeyland9 said:
Alright, friend. I've listened to your idiotic comments for too many pages and remained silent. However, this last one is the most ridiculous, poorly thought out example of weak reasoning and football knowledge yet. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

"Cut didn't teach him" to execute? Really? Really. Did you watch Erik Ainge "execute" in 2005? It's safe to say Cut taught him how to execute in the offseason between 2005 and 2006. I was at the 2006 Cal game, and that was a totally different Erik Ainge, from reads to fundamentals to the way he carried himself.

I've also heard you removing blame from the offensive coordinator. First, execution is ENTIRELY on his watch. Second, you cannot, in any rational or sane way, justify throwing 42 times on the road in the first game of the season with a new starter at QB. Did we have Todd Helton do that against Georgia in 1994? No. We ran the ball to the tune of about 300 yards and a win in Athens. I can't believe I'm saying something positive about Randy Sanders, but at least he leaned on Travis Henry and almost upset Florida when we had a new starter in 2000.

Execution aside, it is entirely the COORDINATOR's job to analyze how his QB is performing, and adjust accordingly. If my QB is throwing balls high, in the dirt, getting sacked, and looking shaky, I'm adjusting my playcalling. I lean heavily on the run and our vaunted G-Gun, and I throw easy dump passes, play action roll outs to the TEs and Fullbacks, etc.

Finally, last night I saw a 3rd string QB at UCLA out-execute us with no line, and no offensive weapons whatsoever. He was a basket case in the first half, and his COORDINATOR made adjustments for the second half (similar to those described above) and he calmed down, picked us apart, and beat us.

No matter how you slice it, this is one of those games where you run the ball ad nauseum, throw a few select screens and play actions (certainly not 42 of them, though), lean on your running game and defense, and get the W. This loss is entirely on the coaches, in my opinion. We have beaten better teams with less due to a more intelligent gameplan.
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well written
 
#337
#337
GenNeyland9 said:
Alright, friend. I've listened to your idiotic comments for too many pages and remained silent. However, this last one is the most ridiculous, poorly thought out example of weak reasoning and football knowledge yet. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

"Cut didn't teach him" to execute? Really? Really. Did you watch Erik Ainge "execute" in 2005? It's safe to say Cut taught him how to execute in the offseason between 2005 and 2006. I was at the 2006 Cal game, and that was a totally different Erik Ainge, from reads to fundamentals to the way he carried himself.

I've also heard you removing blame from the offensive coordinator. First, execution is ENTIRELY on his watch. Second, you cannot, in any rational or sane way, justify throwing 42 times on the road in the first game of the season with a new starter at QB. Did we have Todd Helton do that against Georgia in 1994? No. We ran the ball to the tune of about 300 yards and a win in Athens. I can't believe I'm saying something positive about Randy Sanders, but at least he leaned on Travis Henry and almost upset Florida when we had a new starter in 2000.

Execution aside, it is entirely the COORDINATOR's job to analyze how his QB is performing, and adjust accordingly. If my QB is throwing balls high, in the dirt, getting sacked, and looking shaky, I'm adjusting my playcalling. I lean heavily on the run and our vaunted G-Gun, and I throw easy dump passes, play action roll outs to the TEs and Fullbacks, etc.

Finally, last night I saw a 3rd string QB at UCLA out-execute us with no line, and no offensive weapons whatsoever. He was a basket case in the first half, and his COORDINATOR made adjustments for the second half (similar to those described above) and he calmed down, picked us apart, and beat us.

No matter how you slice it, this is one of those games where you run the ball ad nauseum, throw a few select screens and play actions (certainly not 42 of them, though), lean on your running game and defense, and get the W. This loss is entirely on the coaches, in my opinion. We have beaten better teams with less due to a more intelligent gameplan.
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Incredibly well put post. I'm just afraid it will fall on deaf ears.
 
#339
#339
utvolpj said:
well I hope not cause more should read it
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not only will the person he wrote it for likely not read it, several others will simply find it too long to take the time to read. But it should be posted on Hot Links.
 
#340
#340
GenNeyland9 said:
Alright, friend. I've listened to your idiotic comments for too many pages and remained silent. However, this last one is the most ridiculous, poorly thought out example of weak reasoning and football knowledge yet. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

"Cut didn't teach him" to execute? Really? Really. Did you watch Erik Ainge "execute" in 2005? It's safe to say Cut taught him how to execute in the offseason between 2005 and 2006. I was at the 2006 Cal game, and that was a totally different Erik Ainge, from reads to fundamentals to the way he carried himself.

I've also heard you removing blame from the offensive coordinator. First, execution is ENTIRELY on his watch. Second, you cannot, in any rational or sane way, justify throwing 42 times on the road in the first game of the season with a new starter at QB. Did we have Todd Helton do that against Georgia in 1994? No. We ran the ball to the tune of about 300 yards and a win in Athens. I can't believe I'm saying something positive about Randy Sanders, but at least he leaned on Travis Henry and almost upset Florida when we had a new starter in 2000.

Execution aside, it is entirely the COORDINATOR's job to analyze how his QB is performing, and adjust accordingly. If my QB is throwing balls high, in the dirt, getting sacked, and looking shaky, I'm adjusting my playcalling. I lean heavily on the run and our vaunted G-Gun, and I throw easy dump passes, play action roll outs to the TEs and Fullbacks, etc.

Finally, last night I saw a 3rd string QB at UCLA out-execute us with no line, and no offensive weapons whatsoever. He was a basket case in the first half, and his COORDINATOR made adjustments for the second half (similar to those described above) and he calmed down, picked us apart, and beat us.

No matter how you slice it, this is one of those games where you run the ball ad nauseum, throw a few select screens and play actions (certainly not 42 of them, though), lean on your running game and defense, and get the W. This loss is entirely on the coaches, in my opinion. We have beaten better teams with less due to a more intelligent gameplan.
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If you actually tried to understand what I am saying here instead of trying to pick it apart you would understand that our QB group has almost ZERO experience to draw off for Clawson to work with. Ainge got more 1st team reps at that point in his career than Cromp has had up until this point. Having a new starting QB for the first time in basically 4 years is going to be a problem, but we don't have anyone to turn to anymore to bail us out like we did in Ainge. Ainge had obviously better mechanics when he arrived in Knoxville than Cromp did and that's why Cromp NEVER challenged Ainge for the job. Ainge just had more to draw from than Cromp does at this point and that scares me to death at the QB spot. Cromp is not the QB many tag him to be and has been and will be a project for us this year. Get ready for it.
 
#341
#341
g8terh8ter_eric said:
If you actually tried to understand what I am saying here instead of trying to pick it apart you would understand that our QB group has almost ZERO experience to draw off for Clawson to work with. Ainge got more 1st team reps at that point in his career than Cromp has had up until this point. Having a new starting QB for the first time in basically 4 years is going to be a problem, but we don't have anyone to turn to anymore to bail us out like we did in Ainge. Ainge had obviously better mechanics when he arrived in Knoxville than Cromp did and that's why Cromp NEVER challenged Ainge for the job. Ainge just had more to draw from than Cromp does at this point and that scares me to death at the QB spot. Cromp is not the QB many tag him to be and has been and will be a project for us this year. Get ready for it.
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then that was even more reason to run the freaking ball more last night and get him out of the pocket to buy himself time. You're contradicting yourself.
 
#342
#342
Hilarious idea that Ainge had good mechanics or that Crompton had no one to turn to bail him out. Everytime we turned away from Crompton something good happened. Asking Ainge to throw a million times against 2004 Auburn was stupid. He wasn't ready for it and he was humiliated. Asking Crompton to throw 42 times last night is exactly the same.
 
#343
#343
volfanbill said:
then that was even more reason to run the freaking ball more last night and get him out of the pocket to buy himself time. You're contradicting yourself.
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That was Clawson's biggest mistake.

I still just don't see how someone that seems that smart and knowledgeable would just... forgo a logical gameplan adjustment.
 
#344
#344
27 carries for 173 yards
19/41 4.5 YPA and a INT

Those stats right there should tell you what the game plan should have been. If we run the ball 41 times and pass it only 27 we win that game going away. When you are running the ball down peoples throats, why stop? Cut would do it and Claw just did it. And when you add in that your are breaking in a new QB and a new system, it is just inexcusable.
 
#345
#345
Well, I guess you guys blame the coaches and I will hold the people playing the game responsible. Cromp flat out sucked last night but our 2nd half defense sucked more. The only coaches I have a problem with right now is Fulmer and Chavis. Fulmer for kicking 2 50+ FG's to start the season and Chavis for not stopping a WEAK UCLA offense. Clawson put players in position for Cromp to get the ball to, but he failed to get the ball to them most of the night.
 
#346
#346
Clawson to me seems like a straight-shooter. I guarantee if any postgame commentary gets released he'll admit he did a poor job.
 
#348
#348
kptvol said:
Clawson to me seems like a straight-shooter. I guarantee if any postgame commentary gets released he'll admit he did a poor job.
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if he does, hope I can listen too it
he sure didn't give an impression of any confidence last night
 
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