Clawson

#126
#126
JohnsonCityVol said:
It's almost amusing that so many chided against Tennessee for being too conservative on offense for so long, now that we are not, all the calls come in saying 'run the ball! run the ball!'

Almost.
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Which made sense when we weren't effective running but tonight we were and we stopped.
 
#127
#127
g8terh8ter_eric said:
The whole team is ultimately the reason, but to say Clawson has a majority stake in the loss isn't right.
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Coaches always get the majority of the blame as they should. Who should get the blame for the hitches for 5+ yard gains on 3rd and one because the DB was playing 10 yards off the LOS? Chavis or Willingham? Chavis because it is his scheme and it is the coaches job to get the players in positions to succeed. Same deal with Clawson. It was a garbage excuse of a gameplan by all coaches involved.
 
#128
#128
volfanbill said:
i'm concerned about execution as well. But as a coach you adjust to go with what's working. You don't consistently continue to do what was failing. Spread it out a little better for Crompton and see what he does. Clawson and Fulmer didn't do that. They continued to keep Crompton under center and under that constant blitz from UCLA. Horrible game planning and adjusting. And that my friend is the fault of the coaches
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You can armchair QB or OC the game however you like, but right now it is a FACT that Cromp doesn't have enough experience at the QB position to win a tough game. If he's what we have now, what happens if he gets hurt (God Forbid)?
 
#131
#131
g8terh8ter_eric said:
You can armchair QB or OC the game however you like, but right now it is a FACT that Cromp doesn't have enough experience at the QB position to win a tough game. If he's what we have now, what happens if he gets hurt (God Forbid)?
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that's scary to think about. I never said it wasn't. But seeing that Crompton was successful at all lining up under center and getting away from UCLA's blitz, as the OC and QB coach, you've got to make adjustments to help him out. Clawson (and possibly Fulmer) kept trying the same old crap that hadn't worked all game long.
 
#132
#132
vols kick balls said:
Coaches always get the majority of the blame as they should. Who should get the blame for the hitches for 5+ yard gains on 3rd and one because the DB was playing 10 yards off the LOS? Chavis or Willingham? Chavis because it is his scheme and it is the coaches job to get the players in positions to succeed. Same deal with Clawson. It was a garbage excuse of a gameplan by all coaches involved.
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Still though, the players (not just Cromp) didn't execute. The ONLY players who I felt executed were Foster (even with the fumble), Hardesty, and Jones. The rest of the offense was junky junk. Coaches did their job and it's up to the players to bring it home. I guess I blame players more than coaches though because coaches only call the plays and the players run them.
 
#133
#133
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Still though, the players (not just Cromp) didn't execute. The ONLY players who I felt executed were Foster (even with the fumble), Hardesty, and Jones. The rest of the offense was junky junk. Coaches did their job and it's up to the players to bring it home. I guess I blame players more than coaches though because coaches only call the plays and the players run them.
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Besides the fumble, Foster played well. The football was SO HUGE though. I would add Kevin Cooper to your list. He was great catching out of the backfield.
 
#134
#134
g8terh8ter_eric said:
You can armchair QB or OC the game however you like, but right now it is a FACT that Cromp doesn't have enough experience at the QB position to win a tough game. If he's what we have now, what happens if he gets hurt (God Forbid)?
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I don't think the experience, or lack of experience, is the only problem. Lack of experience usually leads to bad decisions, forcing things, bad reads, trying to do to much, etc. and he did all of those but he also had his share of just terrible throws. On several occasions he made the correct read he just couldn't make the throw.
 
#135
#135
volfanbill said:
but if you use the run to set up the pass and force UCLA to back off the blitz, the entire offense becomes more effective. Using the pass to set up the run (or just abandoning the run) has failed for the past 5 years or so.
Get the ball moving effectively on the ground, go for some play action deep stuff, spread the field and voila, you have a working offense. Stop trying to pretend throwing the ball 42 times wasn't a bad gameplan from the coaches.
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The past 10 yrs or so, Tenn ran first, passed 2nd. We only LOOKED like a pass first team because people played us as typical, predictable old Tennessee and stacked against the run. You have to throw in those situations to back them off the line.

Clawson passes first on short routes to gain the equivilant of running plays that get 3-5 yds. The run was there at first tonight because UCLA is playing defense against the short pass. They were getting pressure on Crompton with the front 4 +1 LB most of the night. With that kind of pressure, they could adequately protect the short pass. If we can't block 5, then how can we run on them with LBs waiting in the wings? It really wasn't there.

In this system, a ton of responsibility falls on the QB to excute. Tonight, he didn't.

And this will not be the only time we pass for 40+ times this year. It is the nature of this offense.
 
#136
#136
volfanbill said:
that's scary to think about. I never said it wasn't. But seeing that Crompton was successful at all lining up under center and getting away from UCLA's blitz, as the OC and QB coach, you've got to make adjustments to help him out. Clawson (and possibly Fulmer) kept trying the same old crap that hadn't worked all game long.
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How bout Cromp running it?? When he did scramble he was successful. I just see it as Cromp was trying to prove he is a pocket QB and not just a scrambling one. He should have scrambled more and not forced it.
 
#137
#137
JohnsonCityVol said:
The past 10 yrs or so, Tenn ran first, passed 2nd. We only LOOKED like a pass first team because people played us as typical, predictable old Tennessee and stacked against the run. You have to throw in those situations to back them off the line.

Clawson passes first on short routes to gain the equivilant of running plays that get 3-5 yds. The run was there tonight because UCLA is playing defense against the short pass most of the night. They were getting pressure on Crompton with the front 4 +1 LB most of the night. With that kind of pressure, they could adequately protect the short pass. If we can't block 5, then how can we run on them with LBs waiting in the wings? It really wasn't there.

In this system, a ton of responsibility falls on the QB to excute. Tonight, he didn't.

And this will not be the only time we pass for 40+ times this year. It is the nature of this offense.
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wrong. Tennessee has not just looked like a pass first, run second team the past few years. The stats prove it.
 
#138
#138
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Still though, the players (not just Cromp) didn't execute. The ONLY players who I felt executed were Foster (even with the fumble), Hardesty, and Jones. The rest of the offense was junky junk. Coaches did their job and it's up to the players to bring it home. I guess I blame players more than coaches though because coaches only call the plays and the players run them.
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It's the coaches job to get them ready to execute though. That is what they go to practice for, to get them ready physically and mentally and Clawson didn't do that. Example, Foster sacking Crompton, just bad execution that should be ironed out by gameweek by coaches.

I still don't know what the deal was about changing out wristbands. Never seen that before.
 
#139
#139
vols kick balls said:
It's the coaches job to get them ready to execute though. That is what they go to practice for, to get them ready physically and mentally and Clawson didn't do that. Example, Foster sacking Crompton, just bad execution that should be ironed out by gameweek by coaches.

I still don't know what the deal was about changing out wristbands. Never seen that before.
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Preparation is nothing without execution. Clawson did his job, the players just played sub par and didn't do their job.
 
#144
#144
OWB said:
Anyone think that Clawson should come down out of the box?
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I think so. Being up in the box just doesn't do it for me. The only person I like in the box is the DC. Chavis should go back up there. We had MORE success at adjusting.
 
#148
#148
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Preparation is nothing without execution. Clawson did his job, the players just played sub par and didn't do their job.
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We are just in a difference of opinion then. When the final product on the field doesn't move smoothly I blame it on the OC because it is his job to get it to work smoothly. You just automatically think it is the players fault. No big deal just 2 ways to look at the same problem.
 
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