CJH replacement

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xpsyclonex2002 said:
Lot of folks here talking about CJH being out of his depth and needing to be replaced. I'm mixed about it. I can't say I actually support it. I recognize where we were and where he's taken us. I have to appreciate that. I also recognize that this season was driven by 2 things, the QB switch and the implosion of our defense.
I think that the question we have to ask , "if not him, who?" I don't have a good answer. The coaching carousel is a mess right now. No one is going to win. Who would he be replaced with in say......2 years? Almost every hot new coach that gets hired into the big leagues fails horribly. Kirby is the only one in recent history that has been a good hire. I look across the football landscape and I see dozens of highly sought after coaches that have failed to live up to the hype. Honestly, CJH has been on the upside of the curve. how do you swap him out for a winner? I don't see a path forward unless he gets stolen out from under us. If that happens, who would we hire that the other schools don't pick up first? I also think that the grumbling will feed into the situation getting worse. Missing recruits because of coaching uncertainty and such.
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Heupel isn’t leaving unless he jumps ship. Not this year at least.

But, I’d be willing to bet Danny White has a list. I don’t think you try to hire a big name. I think you try to find the next Cignetti or Elko.

If the job were open this minute, I think Kiffin would beat the door down to redeem himself here. Obviously that’s not going to happen.
 
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Programs often fire good coaches because they want greatness. What they usually get is instability. History shows that replacing a coach who is winning eight to ten games per year does not usually lead to improvement. It usually leads to a decline.
Josh Heupel already has Tennessee winning, already has a modern offense that works, already has recruiting momentum, and already rebuilt a broken culture. The idea that Tennessee can just swap him out for a guaranteed upgrade ignores twenty years of evidence.
If we want a higher ceiling, the smarter path is to build stability, improve staff hires, strengthen recruiting, and keep developing the roster we have. The SEC is too competitive to gamble on a coaching reset when the historical odds so strongly favor regression.
 
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SubVet676 said:
If you want good fruit, you pick it from a good tree. Right now, the Kirby tree is producing. The Saban tree appears to be wilting a bit.

I'm not in favor of replacing Heupel, yet. If he goes, he goes, and we name an interim for the 2026 season. They are auditioning for the perm job next year.

But if Heupel doesn't completely overhaul the defense, ST, and S&C...then he's on the clock to produce results on par with what he's getting paid.

I don't think Heupel's leaving. But I do think DW needs to start flipping through that Rolodex that every good AD has.

On his current trajectory, Heupel has 2 seasons left at UT. At most. Ball is in his court.

Go Vols.
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Saban tree- 2015 Bama coaching staff. Smart, Kiffin,Cristobal,Napier, Tucker, Lupoi, Lanning, Schumann. Yeah that's quite the wilting tree.
 
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jasonvol18 said:
It's a message board, people can say anything they want. Heupel to Penn St has been trend since last night..They can have him if he won't make the coaching changes to improve. Go watch his post game interview, I've never seen him so uninterested and lifeless in an interview. Something is up, regardless.
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Where did it start trending? The still see not one person reporting that he is a candidate
 
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xpsyclonex2002 said:
Lot of folks here talking about CJH being out of his depth and needing to be replaced. I'm mixed about it. I can't say I actually support it. I recognize where we were and where he's taken us. I have to appreciate that. I also recognize that this season was driven by 2 things, the QB switch and the implosion of our defense.
I think that the question we have to ask , "if not him, who?" I don't have a good answer. The coaching carousel is a mess right now. No one is going to win. Who would he be replaced with in say......2 years? Almost every hot new coach that gets hired into the big leagues fails horribly. Kirby is the only one in recent history that has been a good hire. I look across the football landscape and I see dozens of highly sought after coaches that have failed to live up to the hype. Honestly, CJH has been on the upside of the curve. how do you swap him out for a winner? I don't see a path forward unless he gets stolen out from under us. If that happens, who would we hire that the other schools don't pick up first? I also think that the grumbling will feed into the situation getting worse. Missing recruits because of coaching uncertainty and such.
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Shut up already
 
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508mikey said:
He is not that's why
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I agree with you. Just not understanding why people are even talking about it. I guess some love the coaching search deal. I get it’s a message board and if he was actually listed on a hot board, I would even understand. Why not start a thread about him to Ole Miss? About the same odds
 
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xpsyclonex2002 said:
Lot of folks here talking about CJH being out of his depth and needing to be replaced. I'm mixed about it. I can't say I actually support it. I recognize where we were and where he's taken us. I have to appreciate that. I also recognize that this season was driven by 2 things, the QB switch and the implosion of our defense.
I think that the question we have to ask , "if not him, who?" I don't have a good answer. The coaching carousel is a mess right now. No one is going to win. Who would he be replaced with in say......2 years? Almost every hot new coach that gets hired into the big leagues fails horribly. Kirby is the only one in recent history that has been a good hire. I look across the football landscape and I see dozens of highly sought after coaches that have failed to live up to the hype. Honestly, CJH has been on the upside of the curve. how do you swap him out for a winner? I don't see a path forward unless he gets stolen out from under us. If that happens, who would we hire that the other schools don't pick up first? I also think that the grumbling will feed into the situation getting worse. Missing recruits because of coaching uncertainty and such.
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Norville Rogers out of California is our best bet to replace Heyipple.
 
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I'd really like to know Danny White's opinion on who the hot (and available) candidates are right now should Josh decide to pack it in.
 
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"Hey Siri, who has the offensive genius of Lane Kiffin, the defensive prowess of Ed Orgeron, the organizational skills of Nick Saban, and the motivational talent of R. Lee Ermey?"

Hang on, she's still thinking.....
 
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vegasvolfan said:
www.newsweek.com

Unexpected SEC head coach surging for Penn State job after Kalen DeBoer win

An unexpected SEC head coach is surging for the Penn State job after Kalen DeBoer and Alabama won the Iron Bowl.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com

Key at George Tech would be huge
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Legion of Doom said:
Go all in on Key.
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He would be an amazing coach if our goal was to be the worst in the SEC. If he can't win in his garbage conference how do you expect him to do better here? His best year (this year) is one win better than Heupel this year (who yall want fired over it). He can't recruit, his teams are mid in arguably the worst Power 4 conference. Think before you post. This is laughable.
 
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SubVet676 said:
If you want good fruit, you pick it from a good tree. Right now, the Kirby tree is producing. The Saban tree appears to be wilting a bit.

I'm not in favor of replacing Heupel, yet. If he goes, he goes, and we name an interim for the 2026 season. They are auditioning for the perm job next year.

But if Heupel doesn't completely overhaul the defense, ST, and S&C...then he's on the clock to produce results on par with what he's getting paid.

I don't think Heupel's leaving. But I do think DW needs to start flipping through that Rolodex that every good AD has.

On his current trajectory, Heupel has 2 seasons left at UT. At most. Ball is in his court.

Go Vols.
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This is why the program has been the way it has since Fulmer. This right here.
 
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Hairy Vols said:
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He would be an amazing coach if our goal was to be the worst in the SEC. If he can't win in his garbage conference how do you expect him to do better here? His best year (this year) is one win better than Heupel this year (who yall want fired over it). He can't recruit, his teams are mid in arguably the worst Power 4 conference. Think before you post. This is laughable.
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I don't get it, why Key? Does a QB running the ball 80% of the time at an SEC defense sound successful?

My goodness some of these posters are gone.
 
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