CJH replacement

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Lot of folks here talking about CJH being out of his depth and needing to be replaced. I'm mixed about it. I can't say I actually support it. I recognize where we were and where he's taken us. I have to appreciate that. I also recognize that this season was driven by 2 things, the QB switch and the implosion of our defense.
I think that the question we have to ask , "if not him, who?" I don't have a good answer. The coaching carousel is a mess right now. No one is going to win. Who would he be replaced with in say......2 years? Almost every hot new coach that gets hired into the big leagues fails horribly. Kirby is the only one in recent history that has been a good hire. I look across the football landscape and I see dozens of highly sought after coaches that have failed to live up to the hype. Honestly, CJH has been on the upside of the curve. how do you swap him out for a winner? I don't see a path forward unless he gets stolen out from under us. If that happens, who would we hire that the other schools don't pick up first? I also think that the grumbling will feed into the situation getting worse. Missing recruits because of coaching uncertainty and such.
 
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74charger said:
I think replacing him right now is most likely just stupid although he does have the look that no fans of their coach want to see. If he doesn’t fire Banks within the week, and God forbid, he retains him—he will not survive.
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Need to wait til after signing day and for portal to close . I agree he needs to be given a pink slip.
 
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xpsyclonex2002 said:
Lot of folks here talking about CJH being out of his depth and needing to be replaced. I'm mixed about it. I can't say I actually support it. I recognize where we were and where he's taken us. I have to appreciate that. I also recognize that this season was driven by 2 things, the QB switch and the implosion of our defense.
I think that the question we have to ask , "if not him, who?" I don't have a good answer. The coaching carousel is a mess right now. No one is going to win. Who would he be replaced with in say......2 years? Almost every hot new coach that gets hired into the big leagues fails horribly. Kirby is the only one in recent history that has been a good hire. I look across the football landscape and I see dozens of highly sought after coaches that have failed to live up to the hype. Honestly, CJH has been on the upside of the curve. how do you swap him out for a winner? I don't see a path forward unless he gets stolen out from under us. If that happens, who would we hire that the other schools don't pick up first? I also think that the grumbling will feed into the situation getting worse. Missing recruits because of coaching uncertainty and such.
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Multiple things can be true. I really am thankful for him stabilizing the program. I also don’t think he’s the next level guy. I also recognize it’s not the best time to coach shop, and I also realize he’s not going anywhere unless he really tanks the next couple years.
 
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People even thinking about CJH's seat being mildly warm are fooling themselves at this point. Considering the unmitigated disaster that Nico was, the admin is not likely to make any significant signals of displeasure.

I can also tell you flatly, we do NOT want to be in the coaching search this year. SEC is loading up and becoming even harder than it has always been.

I mean seriously, Vandy could quite possibly be in the playoffs - and could have a heisman winner - I mean, if that doesnt say where SEC football is now, I dont know what does.

Heup DOES need to look at his position coaches and S&C though. We honestly need something out there - play was uninspiring and too many injuries.
 
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xpsyclonex2002 said:
Lot of folks here talking about CJH being out of his depth and needing to be replaced. I'm mixed about it. I can't say I actually support it. I recognize where we were and where he's taken us. I have to appreciate that. I also recognize that this season was driven by 2 things, the QB switch and the implosion of our defense.
I think that the question we have to ask , "if not him, who?" I don't have a good answer. The coaching carousel is a mess right now. No one is going to win. Who would he be replaced with in say......2 years? Almost every hot new coach that gets hired into the big leagues fails horribly. Kirby is the only one in recent history that has been a good hire. I look across the football landscape and I see dozens of highly sought after coaches that have failed to live up to the hype. Honestly, CJH has been on the upside of the curve. how do you swap him out for a winner? I don't see a path forward unless he gets stolen out from under us. If that happens, who would we hire that the other schools don't pick up first? I also think that the grumbling will feed into the situation getting worse. Missing recruits because of coaching uncertainty and such.
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If you want good fruit, you pick it from a good tree. Right now, the Kirby tree is producing. The Saban tree appears to be wilting a bit.

I'm not in favor of replacing Heupel, yet. If he goes, he goes, and we name an interim for the 2026 season. They are auditioning for the perm job next year.

But if Heupel doesn't completely overhaul the defense, ST, and S&C...then he's on the clock to produce results on par with what he's getting paid.

I don't think Heupel's leaving. But I do think DW needs to start flipping through that Rolodex that every good AD has.

On his current trajectory, Heupel has 2 seasons left at UT. At most. Ball is in his court.

Go Vols.
 
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RiverVol said:
What... if he leaves, we'll get blown out by Vanderbilt? ... meaning... Vandy throws 2 interceptions and THEN blows us out... all in the same game?

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I know people need to quit acting like Heupel is Vince Lombardi. He is a mid level coach. If he goes who cares. He has let himself go and looks like a total slob on the sideline and now chewing gum at press conferences.
 
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MontyPython said:
Just. Stop.
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It's a message board, people can say anything they want. Heupel to Penn St has been trend since last night..They can have him if he won't make the coaching changes to improve. Go watch his post game interview, I've never seen him so uninterested and lifeless in an interview. Something is up, regardless.
 
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