Cignetti in the SEC?

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Just hypothetical.

I know Cignetti has done well at Indiana (Incredible, actually - based on Indiana’s football history).

But, I don’t see ANY way that he could just step in and win like that in the SEC.

Especially in this age of NIL & the transfer portal. (I know those are Kiffen’s bread & butter, but even Kiffen hasn’t had Ole Miss ranked as high as Indiana)….

The BIG just isn’t as tough (Top to Bottom) as the SEC. Vandy’s stadium only holds about 40,000 - but still a tougher road game than Perdue. Minnesota? - Please…..

Every year there are about 10 or more SEC teams in the top 25 & maybe 4/5 from the Big 10.

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There is no SEC superiority anymore…it was overblown before. He seems like a really good coach. The concept of playing guys based on production and not just potential is something we should learn.
 
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EverythingOrange said:
Just hypothetical.

I know Cignetti has done well at Indiana (Incredible, actually - based on Indiana’s football history).

But, I don’t see ANY way that he could just step in and win like that in the SEC.

Especially in this age of NIL & the transfer portal. (I know those are Kiffen’s bread & butter, but even Kiffen hasn’t had Ole Miss ranked as high as Indiana)….

The BIG just isn’t as tough (Top to Bottom) as the SEC. Vandy’s stadium only holds about 40,000 - but still a tougher road game than Perdue. Minnesota? - Please…..

Every year there are about 10 or more SEC teams in the top 25 & maybe 4/5 from the Big 10.

Any thoughts?
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He's had one of the easiest P4 schedules the past two seasons and has even more upcoming in the next 3 years.

He's beaten ONE decent team (Oregon) and it's not even clear how good they actually are either
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
He's had one of the easiest P4 schedules the past two seasons and has even more upcoming in the next 3 years.

He's beaten ONE decent team (Oregon) and it's not even clear how good they actually are either
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Same can be said for Georgia. They've beaten one good team and that's Ole Miss who still needs to prove they are actually a good team.
 
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Also this is moving the goalposts.

Cignetti goes to Indiana, one of the worst FBS programs in history and wins and now it's "oh their schedule is really easy". Um...Indiana used to lose the games he's won and this year especially is winning most of them handidly. So to act like that alone isn't a major accomplishment is kinda silly.

Clark Lea IS in the SEC and winning and you can do the same thing to him, who have they beaten? So you can do this all day.

This SEC homerism/obsession is very weird with the fanbase.
 
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EverythingOrange said:
Just hypothetical.

I know Cignetti has done well at Indiana (Incredible, actually - based on Indiana’s football history).

But, I don’t see ANY way that he could just step in and win like that in the SEC.

Especially in this age of NIL & the transfer portal. (I know those are Kiffen’s bread & butter, but even Kiffen hasn’t had Ole Miss ranked as high as Indiana)….

The BIG just isn’t as tough (Top to Bottom) as the SEC. Vandy’s stadium only holds about 40,000 - but still a tougher road game than Perdue. Minnesota? - Please…..

Every year there are about 10 or more SEC teams in the top 25 & maybe 4/5 from the Big 10.

Any thoughts?
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One thing he did smart at Indiana is basically scrub the schedule with weak non conference opponents. He had to in order to get them to bowl eligibility which was the goal initially. Doubt he thought it was gonna be playoffs year 1.

He also benefited with his conference schedule the first two seasons as well.

Kiffin has in large part done that with the non conference schedule. 9 wins gets you in the discussion for playoffs and 10 wins assures you most likely.
 
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OP is questioning if a coach who has…..checks notes….Indiana ranked #2 nationally, and looking dominant in doing so, would be successful at an upper tier SEC program with more resources?

Yes, the answer is yes.

Im closing in on 60, and at no point in my lifetime has Indiana football been nationally relevant.

Cignetti can flat out coach.
 
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C-south said:
There is no SEC superiority anymore…it was overblown before. He seems like a really good coach. The concept of playing guys based on production and not just potential is something we should learn.
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Naaa. Top to bottom, the SEC stands alone. No win is a guarantee.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Also this is moving the goalposts.

Cignetti goes to Indiana, one of the worst FBS programs in history and wins and now it's "oh their schedule is really easy". Um...Indiana used to lose the games he's won and this year especially is winning most of them handidly. So to act like that alone isn't a major accomplishment is kinda silly.

Clark Lea IS in the SEC and winning and you can do the same thing to him, who have they beaten? So you can do this all day.

This SEC homerism/obsession is very weird with the fanbase.
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Clark lea is not "winning" in the SEC

He is 8-29
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
OP is questioning if a coach who has…..checks notes….Indiana ranked #2 nationally, and looking dominant in doing so, would be successful at an upper tier SEC program with more resources?

Yes, the answer is yes.

Im closing in on 60, and at no point in my lifetime has Indiana football been nationally relevant.

Cignetti can flat out coach.
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According to most sports fans these days, 90% of teams are fraudulent, no one ever wins a game (it's more that the other team lost), and everyone is overrated. It's asinine.
 
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IU has had obe of the easiest schedules in the country the past 2 years. Not taking away what he has done at one of the historical worst programs in the country but there is a bit of shade there truthfully. He just extended his contract so it would take a big buyout to get him. I think he'd be a above average coach in the SEC.

Right now he trails at Penn State.
 
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Hoosier_Vol said:
IU has had obe of the easiest schedules in the country the past 2 years. Not taking away what he has done at one of the historical worst programs in the country but there is a bit of shade there truthfully. He just extended his contract so it would take a big buyout to get him. I think he'd be a above average coach in the SEC.

Right now he trails at Penn State.
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Again that's a pretty silly argument. Indiana used to lose those games, now they win them and "oh the schedule is too easy".

Even if he came and won in the SEC my guess is the goalposts would move again.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
OP is questioning if a coach who has…..checks notes….Indiana ranked #2 nationally, and looking dominant in doing so, would be successful at an upper tier SEC program with more resources?

Yes, the answer is yes.

Im closing in on 60, and at no point in my lifetime has Indiana football been nationally relevant.

Cignetti can flat out coach.
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I mean, 2020.

But yeah, your overall point still very much stands.

(Edit: Also apparently 1967)
 
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