Chris Fowler on CFB Season Start

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Dudleys87 said:
Probably not, and you’d have to look at what they did for both basketball teams. It would most likely just be the end of the road for the seniors. Really unfortunate and I hate it.

To many variables to figure out not just from the current players but incoming freshman too.
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Who are the seniors on the Oline this year ?
 
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I don't see any scenario where the seniors lose their eligibility without playing. Do you think the NFL would take that lying down? They would have no game evidence of the present abilities of seniors and draftees. Their 2021 draft would be a crap show and that is too much money to gamble more recklessly than normal. That move would force the NFL to strongarm the NCAA.
Schools and conferences would also reject it. Marketing of marquee players is too important to the revenue stream.
 
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ksgovols said:
Football has to be played in the upcoming fiscal year. Get through that and then worry about the next year. Maybe it's a shortened season in the spring. 8-10 games? I don't know the answer, but spring football wouldn't be awful if we're not ready to go by September or October of 2020.
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Yeah i think it would have to be shortened to 8-10 games. Maybe they only play conference games to maintain home and away schedules. The problem with that is what happens if 5-6 teams are still undefeated??
 
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2020 seniors should roll the eligibility over to play in 2021 and 2021 freshmen come in as well.
It makes sense.
It is simple if the NCAA expands rosters with an extra 25 scholarships for 2021 freshmen. And phase out the extra 25 scholarships over four years.
 
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Dudleys87 said:
There won’t be a season this year no matter what they do. It doesent seem to be slowing down and some have made it political.

When it comes to football Tennessee just had bad timing. That OL could have been special to watch
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No question, it's been political probably from the start, but the "not slowing down" part just isn't correct. Today's numbers will finish in the mid 20's continuing the slightly downward trend.


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20 days ago if everyone in the world wasn't locked in an air-tight compartment, the world would never recover. 10 days ago, between 100k-240k would die in the US everyone was sure. Today, there is doubt as to whether COVID related deaths will reach 50k despite medical facilities, in some cases, being encouraged or even incentivized to attribute questionable deaths to this bug. World-wide, out of 120k attributed deaths, less than 1k previously healthy individuals under the age of 60 have died from COVID. During this same period "other" causes have killed far more people.

Recoveries are not reported timely because confirming them requires resources that need to be spent helping those who are ill. That's fine. But when you take that and the observed virus duration into account; within 2 weeks considerably more people will recover each day than contract the virus. These trends suggest end of May numbers (still 2 months b4 fall practice) will be so improved that the only arrow remaining the quiver of the sensationalist and alarmist media hacks will be "Waiting for Round 2" garbage that has already begun.

Just as there is no evidence that the summer season weakens the virus, there is no evidence that winter bolsters it. Unless trends fundamentally change, the only reason to cancel football season is irrational fear. The risk to players is exponentially lower than sustaining injury that will become limiting or debilitating later in life.

If folks want to live like an Eastern Bloc, Soviet, Cuban or ChiCom society and be accordingly miserable then please find folks who are like-minded and go take over Greenland (my apologies if there any native or adopted Greenlandic on board). As for the rest of us, if the current trends continue, there should be football this fall.
 
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SpookyAction said:
2020 seniors should roll the eligibility over to play in 2021 and 2021 freshmen come in as well.
It makes sense.
It is simple if the NCAA expands rosters with an extra 25 scholarships for 2021 freshmen. And phase out the extra 25 scholarships over four years.
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Didn't they say already that spring sports will get another year of eligibility? Everyone needs to calm down.
 
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This is pretty simple for the SEC. Cancel all OOC games, cancel the cross division games. Tennessee plays only the East. What is that? 6 games? Could start in October. Whoever finishes first, head to head, goes to SEC Champ game in December. Do this for every division. Winners of division play in a playoff. Done.
 
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vol9799 said:
No question, it's been political probably from the start, but the "not slowing down" part just isn't correct. Today's numbers will finish in the mid 20's continuing the slightly downward trend.


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20 days ago if everyone in the world wasn't locked in an air-tight compartment, the world would never recover. 10 days ago, between 100k-240k would die in the US everyone was sure. Today, there is doubt as to whether COVID related deaths will reach 50k despite medical facilities, in some cases, being encouraged or even incentivized to attribute questionable deaths to this bug. World-wide, out of 120k attributed deaths, less than 1k previously healthy individuals under the age of 60 have died from COVID. During this same period "other" causes have killed far more people.

Recoveries are not reported timely because confirming them requires resources that need to be spent helping those who are ill. That's fine. But when you take that and the observed virus duration into account; within 2 weeks considerably more people will recover each day than contract the virus. These trends suggest end of May numbers (still 2 months b4 fall practice) will be so improved that the only arrow remaining the quiver of the sensationalist and alarmist media hacks will be "Waiting for Round 2" garbage that has already begun.

Just as there is no evidence that the summer season weakens the virus, there is no evidence that winter bolsters it. Unless trends fundamentally change, the only reason to cancel football season is irrational fear. The risk to players is exponentially lower than sustaining injury that will become limiting or debilitating later in life.

If folks want to live like an Eastern Bloc, Soviet, Cuban or ChiCom society and be accordingly miserable then please find folks who are like-minded and go take over Greenland (my apologies if there any native or adopted Greenlandic on board). As for the rest of us, if the current trends continue, there should be football this fall.
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Agree!

People have been reacting hastily about this every day. Since the beginning people have been projecting six months to 18 months down the line like its gospel. A gospel that is rewritten every other day.

The first goal was that we needed to shut down so our hospitals wouldn't be overwhelmed. Well.... they aren't overwhelmed and the curve is flattening. The actual case rates aren't clear since there are more people who have gotten it than we know. It is also a fact that the death statustics arent transparent and are higher than they really are. I know a pulmonologist and she has told me that, if you test positive for COVID-19 and die in the hospital then it doesn't matter what you actually died of. You get in a car accident and die of trauma, but test positive for COVID-19, cause of death is complications from COVID-19. Those examples are going on all over the world. Who knows how many of the deaths are from those shady declarations. So if we really want to know how bad the virus is right now, I'd like to know how many people are on ventilators in the USA. Ya never hear that one. Probably not many. Most are at home quarantining. There aren't people dying on the streets from it. They all go to the ER.

Look at Africa. Hot climate. Almost no cases relative to population.

Sweden? They are testing way more than we are and you'll see that their death rates are a touch higher, but they test 10,000 people a week. The state of Tennessee is a similar population size and I don't think that many people are being tested. STILL they haven't locked down to the level we have and only have 951 supposedly legitimate COVID deaths in a country of 10 plus million.

Our hospitals aren't overrun. We are more prepared. Soon we should start opening things up and develop more of a herd immunity. We will be fine.
 
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vol9799 said:
No question, it's been political probably from the start, but the "not slowing down" part just isn't correct. Today's numbers will finish in the mid 20's continuing the slightly downward trend.


View attachment 271445

20 days ago if everyone in the world wasn't locked in an air-tight compartment, the world would never recover. 10 days ago, between 100k-240k would die in the US everyone was sure. Today, there is doubt as to whether COVID related deaths will reach 50k despite medical facilities, in some cases, being encouraged or even incentivized to attribute questionable deaths to this bug. World-wide, out of 120k attributed deaths, less than 1k previously healthy individuals under the age of 60 have died from COVID. During this same period "other" causes have killed far more people.

Recoveries are not reported timely because confirming them requires resources that need to be spent helping those who are ill. That's fine. But when you take that and the observed virus duration into account; within 2 weeks considerably more people will recover each day than contract the virus. These trends suggest end of May numbers (still 2 months b4 fall practice) will be so improved that the only arrow remaining the quiver of the sensationalist and alarmist media hacks will be "Waiting for Round 2" garbage that has already begun.

Just as there is no evidence that the summer season weakens the virus, there is no evidence that winter bolsters it. Unless trends fundamentally change, the only reason to cancel football season is irrational fear. The risk to players is exponentially lower than sustaining injury that will become limiting or debilitating later in life.

If folks want to live like an Eastern Bloc, Soviet, Cuban or ChiCom society and be accordingly miserable then please find folks who are like-minded and go take over Greenland (my apologies if there any native or adopted Greenlandic on board). As for the rest of us, if the current trends continue, there should be football this fall.
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Thank you for the breakdown and I’m not being a smartass about it. To me it just didn’t seem to be getting better.
 
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ksgovols said:
Football has to be played in the upcoming fiscal year. Get through that and then worry about the next year. Maybe it's a shortened season in the spring. 8-10 games? I don't know the answer, but spring football wouldn't be awful if we're not ready to go by September or October of 2020.
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I wasn't aware there was a Fiscal Year established for Football.

please tell me more :p
 
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[QUOTE="Dudleys87, post: 18151335, member: 20719"]There won’t be a season this year no matter what they do. It doesent seem to be slowing down and some have made it political.

When it comes to football Tennessee just had bad timing. That OL could have been special to watch[/QUOTE]

 
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Instead of canceling I would hope they would first consider reducing the number of attendees to 1/6 of current capacity make everyone sit 6ft apart because right now in Neyland for all you pay you get about 12 inches (pretty much what we all offer but never deliver 😉). In Neyland that would be about 18000 fans. Don’t allow visitors. Make it a lottery. Everyone that plays has equal chances and you get whatever seat you get. Sit back and watch on TV. The band? Pipe em in. And beer is free. Limit 3.
 
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ksgovols said:
Football has to be played in the upcoming fiscal year. Get through that and then worry about the next year. Maybe it's a shortened season in the spring. 8-10 games? I don't know the answer, but spring football wouldn't be awful if we're not ready to go by September or October of 2020.
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Yeah I’d say it’s more likely to play the SEC slate only than have spring ball or start on time in Sept. As long as there’s football it’s something to get excited about.
 
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Having tests for only 1% of the population is a problem. Packing 100k people into a stadium during a pandemic...sans a vaccine.....nah.
 
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