Cheating Under Rick Barnes

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cncchris33 said:
I put Step Brothers slightly head of Talladega Nights, but it's close.

No one mentioned Old School, which I thought was really funny (though W. Ferrell wasn't the main character). Vince Vaughn comedy is top shelf for me.
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Crap, I forgot about Old School.

"Your my boy blue!!!"
 
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butchna said:
That spare show after Swain...One and Done...is squawking about a cheating allegation...Texas player under Barnes...they cited an article from "The Chronicle"...searched online and found nothing. Anybody else have anything? :dunno:
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Going back to your OP, the player cited for cheating among others in the published article was a freshman in the 2013-14 season after the new NCAA rule holding head coaches responsible took effect on August 1, 2013. It's the exact same situation that the NCAA went after Tyndall with.
 
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SeniorDrill said:
Going back to your OP, the player cited for cheating among others in the published article was a freshman in the 2013-14 season after the new NCAA rule holding head coaches responsible took effect on August 1, 2013. It's the exact same situation that the NCAA went after Tyndall with.
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At Morehead State or Southern Miss?...at USM it was for paying for the kids housing I believe.
 
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#1 There were no charges brought against the coach at Morehead. #2 There have been no charges brought against the coach at Tennessee.
 
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SeniorDrill said:
#1 There were no charges brought against the coach at Morehead. #2 There have been no charges brought against the coach at Tennessee.
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Tyndall admitted his guilt at Morehead. The school itself imposed penalties which the NCAA accepted.
Tyndall departed shortly thereafter.
Innocent in your book of course.
 
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calban said:
Tyndall admitted his guilt at Morehead. The school itself imposed penalties which the NCAA accepted.
Tyndall departed shortly thereafter.
Innocent in your book of course.
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Did Tyndall depart Morehead St., his alma mater, because USM offered him a job or because he was asked to leave, similar to what happened to Rick at Texas? Please cite a reputable source for your answer!
 
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buzz4tennessee said:
Did Tyndall depart Morehead St., his alma mater, because USM offered him a job or because he was asked to leave, similar to what happened to Rick at Texas? Please cite a reputable source for your answer!
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Everyone knows or should know that he left Morehead for Southern Mississippi because it was a better job. Obviously he must have done something pretty shady at USM in order for UT to can him and not give him his buyout. We don't know what it was as of yet and anybody who says they do is just blowing in the wind.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Pointing out the date you both joined proves absolutely nothing.

It's not just the same opinion; it's almost the exact same posting style, with virtually the exact same arguments.

As to the why you would have 2 accounts, do you think we've forgotten how much you used to harp on likes?
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Yes, truth usually sounds the same, no matter who expresses it. Lies are hard to keep straight because those who tell them have to embellish them to meet their own justification!
 
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buzz4tennessee said:
Did Tyndall depart Morehead St., his alma mater, because USM offered him a job or because he was asked to leave, similar to what happened to Rick at Texas? Please cite a reputable source for your answer!
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Texas didn't "ask Barnes to leave" he was told that if he showed up to work, another man would be doing his job and getting his pay. Kinda like Hart did with Tyndall. :)
 
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wtorange said:
Everyone knows or should know that he left Morehead for Southern Mississippi because it was a better job. Obviously he must have done something pretty shady at USM in order for UT to can him and not give him his buyout. We don't know what it was as of yet and anybody who says they do is just blowing in the wind.
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I definitely agree with the first and third sentence of your post, however, the middle sentence is not so obvious. All we know is that Hart gave this as a reason for firing Tyndall, which at this point is hearsay or bs, until proof is provided!
 
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buzz4tennessee said:
They were both fired! But, what was the justification in each case?
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Texas was tired of "just making the tourney". Tennessee was tired of hiring coaches making little mistakes and getting investigated by the NCAA.
 
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calban said:
Tyndall admitted his guilt at Morehead. The school itself imposed penalties which the NCAA accepted.
Tyndall departed shortly thereafter.
Innocent in your book of course.
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And blowing smoke in your book! As Buzz says, cite it!
 
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butchna said:
Texas was tired of "just making the tourney". Tennessee was tired of hiring coaches making little mistakes and getting investigated by the NCAA.
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I agree that there is an investigation at USM, but if there is NO PROOF that Tyndall made any mistakes while there, will you agree that Hart acted impulsively in firing him. On the other hand, if the opposite result is found, I WILL SAY that Hart was perceptive by making the decision to fire him.

Until there is proof from the NCAA indicating wrongdoing, then there is no reason to continue bashing Tyndall. Anyone who does so is mean spirited!
 
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buzz4tennessee said:
I agree that there is an investigation at USM, but if there is NO PROOF that Tyndall made any mistakes while there, will you agree that Hart acted impulsively in firing him. On the other hand, if the opposite result is found, I WILL SAY that Hart was perceptive by making the decision to fire him.

Until there is proof from the NCAA indicating wrongdoing, then there is no reason to continue bashing Tyndall. Anyone who does so is mean spirited!
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I think Hart has been informed by the NCAA exactly of what Tyndall did or didn't do and what he was aware of. Information doesn't mix with impulsiveness. I liked what I was seeing out of Tyndall and thought we had our guy. I won't bash him WHILE I'm supporting our current coach. I sleep great at night. :)
 
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butchna said:
That's the story...kinda sounds like they knew he wouldn't do it...so was it really a choice? :dunno:
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Knowing Barnes probably, but I bet this situation happens more than the public knows and coaches just so happen to "go a different direction" with their staff.
 
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butchna said:
I think Hart has been informed by the NCAA exactly of what Tyndall did or didn't do and what he was aware of. Information doesn't mix with impulsiveness. I liked what I was seeing out of Tyndall and thought we had our guy. I won't bash him WHILE I'm supporting our current coach. I sleep great at night. :)
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I was not implying that you are the irrational one here. My post was directed toward anyone who has bashed Tyndall based on rumors and innuendos. However, Hart is not the final say so on what the NCAA investigation will finally turn up at USM! If the NCAA knew enough to inspire Hart to act in the way that he did, then why didn't they go on and give the final result of their investigation? What's taking them so long?

Btw, I am glad to hear that you sleep well at night because I do as well. GBO!
 
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buzz4tennessee said:
I definitely agree with the first and third sentence of your post, however, the middle sentence is not so obvious. All we know is that Hart gave this as a reason for firing Tyndall, which at this point is hearsay or bs, until proof is provided!
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You continue to ignore the consequences and financial ramifications of Hart firing Tyndall without cause.

From a purely fiscal standpoint, it may not be rock solid proof that Tyndall is guilty of something, but it is more than just "hearsay or bs".

You can't just fire someone under contract without cause on a whim and not expect them to come fighting for their money if they truly are innocent. The fact that Tyndall hasn't filed suit against the University of Tennessee for wrongful termination speaks volumes.
 
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cncchris33 said:
You continue to ignore the consequences and financial ramifications of Hart firing Tyndall without cause.

From a purely fiscal standpoint, it may not be rock solid proof that Tyndall is guilty of something, but it is more than just "hearsay or bs".

You can't just fire someone under contract without cause on a whim and not expect them to come fighting for their money if they truly are innocent. The fact that Tyndall hasn't filed suit against the University of Tennessee for wrongful termination speaks volumes.
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He can't file suit until he knows the results of the investigation. It will be the NCAA he sues and every coach in America including RB Will back him. He is in the same situation. That is what speaks volumes.
 
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SeniorDrill said:
He can't file suit until he knows the results of the investigation. It will be the NCAA he sues and every coach in America including RB Will back him. He is in the same situation. That is what speaks volumes.
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Why can't he file suit? If he did nothing wrong, then there is no evidence against him. Either they have evidence or they don't. Releasing it publicly is only a matter of procedural semantics. Tennessee didn't wait for the results of the investigation to fire him, and seems comfortable with the future outcome considering the potential amount of money and public disgrace on the line. Why shouldn't Donnie feel that comfortable?
 
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