Charlie Kirk Shot and killed

[InVOLuntary]

Just submit and grovel, amirite comrade?

I think its necessary, yes. Comply. Get your day in court. With you leftist assasinating everyone, you made it necessary.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Snatching young female editorialists off the street, and 99.9% of the other arrests they make, don't warrant anonymity.

Source

 

[hog88]

I would hazard to guess you would feel differently if you were one of the officers.
Easy to make assertions like that when your own skin isn’t in the game.

I wouldn't be one of those officers. I had my opportunity and thankfully was smart enough to decline.

 

[KB5252]

have examples of this?

I can remember one shooting of a border patrol agent, but that was before ICE started these raids.

Portland, Oregon
Widespread doxxing campaign: In July 2025, the DHS reported that groups in the Portland area were doxxing ICE agents by publishing their names, photos, and home addresses online and through physical flyers.
Flyers and harassment: The distributed materials included threats like "NO PEACE FOR ICE" and "CHINGA LA MIGRA". Some activists allegedly left trash on officers' lawns.
Online groups: DHS identified two online groups, "Rose City Counter Info" and "The Crushian Daily," as responsible for some of the doxxing. The department said these groups were affiliated with Antifa.
Los Angeles, California
Flyer distribution: In early 2025, activists in Southern California began distributing flyers featuring the personal information of ICE and Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) officers.
Activist interference: The activists patrolled communities to broadcast information about ICE activities and disrupt raids.
California farm raid: In July 2025, a large protest broke out during an ICE operation at a California marijuana farm. DHS accused a member of Congress of showing a crowd an ICE employee's business card, which allegedly led to an attack that injured the employee. The congressman involved denied the claim.
Santa Monica, California
Arrest for doxxing: In September 2025, a Santa Monica man was arrested for doxxing an ICE attorney. He was charged with violating federal law that protects federal employees and was accused of posting the attorney's home address online with instructions to "swat" them.
Other instances of doxxing and threats
Nashville data leak: In 2025, Nashville's mayor's office mistakenly published the names of federal immigration agents involved in an operation, which was then circulated online.
General escalation: Federal agencies have reported a significant rise in assaults and threats against ICE officers. A retired ICE agent noted that the threat of doxxing is a key reason many officers wear masks during operations.

 

[EasternVol]

That's not what you said. How can it be "state mandated groupthink" if there is no state mandated participation?

The same way the state mandating an Anglican church in every town is state mandated religion.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Yay, Now they will have 2 Ideology's forced on them.

Or...they will have at least 2 options of ideologies to adopt?

Being that these are HS students, and the faculty as well as many textbooks are already slanted in a decidedly Leftist and atheist direction...I am all for teens aged 15 to 18 having more information and more choices of who and what to believe. Public schools and especially colleges have become Leftist Indoctrination centers. Unless you want a future US populated entirely by only Democrats and antifa, more choice is clearly a good thing IMO. If the TPUSA stuff was mandatory I would be firmly against it...but it isn't. Sadly the teachers and curriculum ARE mandatory though if homeschooling or private school isnt an option in the household which is BS but thats an entirely different discussion.

 

[hog88]

and we can trust them because they are the government...and wearing masks.

its not like our government has used private contractors to do shady things they aren't allowed to do before...

Never go all Swampy.

 

[InVOLuntary]

You sound like a real Stasi fanboy.
They don't have to wear masks.

You want them identified so you can go kill theor families? Sounds like it to me.

 

[InVOLuntary]

if you have their name, you can find their address via public records or find their socials.

with their picture you have to run facial recognition software, or simply go mining thru who knows how much data......to get their name and then address.

So if you see the name Smith on their lapel you can identify them?

 

[Orange_Crush]

I guess I'll just post these to the board for whomever may want to answer and discuss per Charlie's beliefs and the concept of loving your neighbor.

In scripture Jesus is help up repeatedly as the ultimate example of love. 1 John literally states that He is the embodiment of love. So, any biblical definition of love must align with His teachings and actions.

Question 1: What would one consider Jesus' most obvious implementation of immigration law?

Question2: How could these immigration laws be seen as loving, if we were to find them in any way restrictive or harsh?

Question 3: What Biblical teachings may be referenced when seeking God's view on DEI/AA?

 

[hog88]

The actual person is not the defining issue in the court room, it is the law they broke. The mask being worn for an agent's safety is not prohibiting that in any way.

Again, I'm saying no law enforcement should be masked. Yes, in a lot of cases the person testifying is the defining issue in court.

 

[InVOLuntary]

The same way the state mandating an Anglican church in every town is state mandated religion.

Yeah, that's happening.

 

[Orange_Crush]

The same way the state mandating an Anglican church in every town is state mandated religion.

That's ridiculous., and a complete change of your argument.

How can no mandated attendance or participation be mandated group-THINK?

 

[hog88]

I disagree. The risk is too great to their families.

We can disagree.

 

[Orange_Crush]

We can disagree.

Please don't shoot.

 

[allstar34bd]

Portland, Oregon
Widespread doxxing campaign: In July 2025, the DHS reported that groups in the Portland area were doxxing ICE agents by publishing their names, photos, and home addresses online and through physical flyers.
Flyers and harassment: The distributed materials included threats like "NO PEACE FOR ICE" and "CHINGA LA MIGRA". Some activists allegedly left trash on officers' lawns.
Online groups: DHS identified two online groups, "Rose City Counter Info" and "The Crushian Daily," as responsible for some of the doxxing. The department said these groups were affiliated with Antifa.
Los Angeles, California
Flyer distribution: In early 2025, activists in Southern California began distributing flyers featuring the personal information of ICE and Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) officers.
Activist interference: The activists patrolled communities to broadcast information about ICE activities and disrupt raids.
California farm raid: In July 2025, a large protest broke out during an ICE operation at a California marijuana farm. DHS accused a member of Congress of showing a crowd an ICE employee's business card, which allegedly led to an attack that injured the employee. The congressman involved denied the claim.
Santa Monica, California
Arrest for doxxing: In September 2025, a Santa Monica man was arrested for doxxing an ICE attorney. He was charged with violating federal law that protects federal employees and was accused of posting the attorney's home address online with instructions to "swat" them.
Other instances of doxxing and threats
Nashville data leak: In 2025, Nashville's mayor's office mistakenly published the names of federal immigration agents involved in an operation, which was then circulated online.
General escalation: Federal agencies have reported a significant rise in assaults and threats against ICE officers. A retired ICE agent noted that the threat of doxxing is a key reason many officers wear masks during operations.

 

[hog88]

Please don't shoot.

Are shots ok to do with someone you disagree with?

 

[KB5252]

because they are the government and supposed to represent the highest standard in our country.

the government has fought the mob before. organized crime is not a new threat in this nation. our government has been able to combat them without a face mask.

we aren't fighting the mob anymore. There is a completely different set of rules now.....or rather lack of rules. For instance, the mob wouldn't go after "civilians" or family in a targeted hit. It was bad for business and they understood there would be blowback.

Organized crime today specifically targets "civilians" family for shock value and to send a message.

 

[EasternVol]

It's from a sharia law thread... But if the citizens of Oklahoma whom they represent and are implementing the rules that they were voted to impliment... What's the difference, just size,?

There's a big difference there. The city in Michigan doesn't try to mandate establishment of mosques.

 

[n_huffhines]

and we can trust them because they are the government...and wearing masks.

its not like our government has used private contractors to do shady things they aren't allowed to do before...

I know things have been crazy for a while, but I still can't believe I'm arguing with the right that a secret police that wears masks and snatches people up without due process (and other BoR violations) is a bad thing.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Are shots ok to do with someone you disagree with?

Nope. You may get drunk and start agreeing with their dumb*** selves. Then where would the world be?

 

[Orange_Crush]

I know things have been crazy for a while, but I still can't believe I'm arguing with the right that a secret police that wears masks and snatches people up without due process (and other BoR violations) is a bad thing.

To be honest, I can't believe you're arguing with anyone on the right, considering the number of people you seem to have on ignore. You're not too keen on much public debate these days AFAICT.

 

[Peradox1K]

Or...they will have at least 2 options of ideologies to adopt?

Being that these are HS students, and the faculty as well as many textbooks are already slanted in a decidedly Leftist and atheist direction...I am all for teens aged 15 to 18 having more information and more choices of who and what to believe. Public schools and especially colleges have become Leftist Indoctrination centers. Unless you want a future US populated entirely by only Democrats and antifa, more choice is clearly a good thing IMO. If the TPUSA stuff was mandatory I would be firmly against it...but it isn't. Sadly the teachers and curriculum ARE mandatory though if homeschooling or private school isnt an option in the household which is BS but thats an entirely different discussion.

The textbook statement is ABSOLUTELY true. I teach, so I'd know

 

[Peradox1K]

I know things have been crazy for a while, but I still can't believe I'm arguing with the right that a secret police that wears masks and snatches people up without due process (and other BoR violations) is a bad thing.

 

[hog88]

TECHNICALLY, illegals don't have BoR rights.

That is not correct.