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Your first article is actually taking about the disappearing center of the governing, not the governed.

The second article is simply a history piece written about Rockafeller, never even tried to correlate the modern center with their premise. In fact it read more like an ode to Pelosi in the opening comments, hardly anything compelling.

I kept reading ahead hoping to find them make their case but it was just history. And never made the connection to the shrinking middle.
The second article is literally about a study done looking at people’s voting preferences at UC Irvine. I don’t know what you’re reading. I posted 4 pieces btw, each inherently different from the other, with different sources and different subject matter. I won’t do the work for you, I read each one hoping to have discourse, but I won’t hold my breath.
 
“The oldest church in the world isn’t a church!”-BeardedVol who knows nothing of orthodox Christianity
I understand his point that the Russian Orthodox Church appears to be totally under the thumb of the Russian Government. Of course the same could be said of the same Church under the Tsars (I know about Tsars 😉). Historically, just about every church (or religion for that matter) has been co-opted by the state at one time or another.
But the key point is that the leadership being controlled by the political authority in no way invalidates the Faith of the members. The Church Universal is the Body of Christ and is made up of all believers. It is not a set of buildings. It is not a group of elderly men wearing robes and vestements.
And when you are discussing the Eastern Orthodox Church (of which the Russian Church is a part); you are talking about one of the most ancient denominations that exists.
FWIW
 
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I understand his point that the Russian Orthodox Church appears to be totally under the thumb of the Russian Government. Of course the same could be said of the same Church under the Tsars (I know about Tsars 😉). Historically, just about every church (or religion for that matter) has been co-opted by the state at one time or another.
But the key point is that the leadership being controlled by the political authority in no way invalidates the Faith of the members. The Church Universal is the Body of Christ and is made up of all believers. It is not a set of buildings. It is not a group of elderly men wearing robes and vestements.
And when you are discussing the Eastern Orthodox Church (of which the Russian Church is a part); you are talking about one of the most ancient denominations that exists.
FWIW


The issue is less the church being taken over by the government, its the other way around. People who wish to impose THEIR worldview on everyone else based on THEIR view of THEIR righteous cause can't be reasoned with because, by definition, im theor minds what they do is right and everyone who does not fall in line has to be marginalized (or worse).
 
The issue is less the church being taken over by the government, its the other way around. People who wish to impose THEIR worldview on everyone else based on THEIR view of THEIR righteous cause can't be reasoned with because, by definition, im theor minds what they do is right and everyone who does not fall in line has to be marginalized (or worse).

I’m not sure you thought that through.
 
The issue is less the church being taken over by the government, its the other way around. People who wish to impose THEIR worldview on everyone else based on THEIR view of THEIR righteous cause can't be reasoned with because, by definition, im theor minds what they do is right and everyone who does not fall in line has to be marginalized (or worse).
Oh. That’s why you left the democrat party isn’t it?
 
The right wing has won the propaganda war......in a blowout.
It speaks more about the followers/worshipers than anything else.

But on the plus side.....trump's hanging some really cool looking and massive self portraits on the federal buildings in DC.

A man was assassinated live on the internet, at a college for having civil discourse by a leftist in a relationship with a transgender and people celebrated and justified it.

Killing someone for different views is now a propaganda war?

What speaks volumes is how deranged the Democratic Party is. Your party is a nasty hate filled cult.

Your views and values are not of that of the majority of Americans. America spoke in November.

Look How far the party of peace, love, and tolerance has fallen.
 
A man was assassinated live on the internet, at a college for having civil discourse by a leftist in a relationship with a transgender and people celebrated and justified it.

Killing someone for different views is now a propaganda war?

What speaks volumes is how deranged the Democratic Party is. Your party is a nasty hate filled cult.

Your views and values are not of that of the majority of Americans. America spoke in November.

Look How far the party of peace, love, and tolerance has fallen.
The democratic party is a nasty and hate filled cult?!?!?
Undoubtedly the enemy....an enemy that needs to be defeated?

Like I said.....victory for right wing propaganda.....you are just one more piece of irrefutable evidence.
 
The democratic party is a nasty and hate filled cult?!?!?
Undoubtedly the enemy....an enemy that needs to be defeated?

Like I said.....victory for right wing propaganda.....you are just one more piece of irrefutable evidence.
One party burned down cities.

One party spread a message of love and forgiveness.

Yes, the left is hate filled.
 
I’m not sure you thought that through.


People seeking to expand their view of the political world is what politics is all about. It would be nice if elected officials used those positions purely for the greater good, but we all know that ain't happening.

I am speaking to the involvement of a particular religion in government, which has always caused problems.
 
People seeking to expand their view of the political world is what politics is all about. It would be nice if elected officials used those positions purely for the greater good, but we all know that ain't happening.

I am speaking to the involvement of a particular religion in government, which has always caused problems.
It wasn't a problem in 1776 when the country was founded on those religious principles
 
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