Charlie Kirk Shot and killed

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lawgator1 said:
At best, he gave mixed messages but you cant expect black people to ignore some of the worst ones.
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You've been watching snippets. I've watched hundreds of videos of him. Have for a long time. He didn't have a racist bone in his body.

Now if you mean some blacks were offended by the truth, then I can see why you would think that. He didn't mince words. He spoke facts. He debated to 13/50 point many times. He was a staunch believer that a major problem was the lack of black dads in the home. Those things are inconvenient truths.
 
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Majors said:
All those old liberals looking for a home.
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Here's the thing though, if the left would just adjust and meet them halfway they would be right back...... We'll see if they make adjustments or not, they'd be dumb not to but so far they appear to be doubling down.
 
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ETV said:
At best? Is it because he was truthful with his message or are you salty because UF is staring at a 1-4 start to the season?
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Nothing wrong with challenging the black community to better improve its own collective lot in life. Nothing wrong with doing that for any group in society, regardless of the identifier (race, gender, geography, etc).

But that is not all he did. He ALSO made comments suggesting or downright saying that blacks are inherently less capable than whites. Things of that nature are what is problematic.

And if you are black, odds are that the latter is what is going to reverberate more as you consider Kirk's legacy.
 
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I have one request. The liberals on here posting the lies and character assassination, can you please make sure you post it often on the more widespread social media platforms? You're not doing enough to get the message out.

 
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lawgator1 said:
Nothing wrong with challenging the black community to better improve its own collective lot in life. Nothing wrong with doing that for any group in society, regardless of the identifier (race, gender, geography, etc).

But that is not all he did. He ALSO made comments suggesting or downright saying that blacks are inherently less capable than whites. Things of that nature are what is problematic.

And if you are black, odds are that the latter is what is going to reverberate more as you consider Kirk's legacy.
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I want to see a clip of him "downright saying" (your words counsellor) that blacks as a whole are less capable than whites. Full clip, in context.
 
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Charlie Kirk himself did this. It was everywhere on the right. We still get jokes about him 5 years after the fact.

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KB5252 said:
Here's the thing though, if the left would just adjust and meet them halfway they would be right back...... We'll see if they make adjustments or not, they'd be dumb not to but so far they appear to be doubling down.
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My mom is a forgotten democrat. She’s more Republican now but buys all the liberal hate towards Trump/Republicans.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Nothing wrong with challenging the black community to better improve its own collective lot in life. Nothing wrong with doing that for any group in society, regardless of the identifier (race, gender, geography, etc).

But that is not all he did. He ALSO made comments suggesting or downright saying that blacks are inherently less capable than whites. Things of that nature are what is problematic.

And if you are black, odds are that the latter is what is going to reverberate more as you consider Kirk's legacy.
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Have you actually watched any of the things he's said on any topic or just listen to the lunatic disgusting comments that are twisted by the MSM as usual? If you have then your comments would be totally different from what you've posted in this thread.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Nothing wrong with challenging the black community to better improve its own collective lot in life. Nothing wrong with doing that for any group in society, regardless of the identifier (race, gender, geography, etc).

But that is not all he did. He ALSO made comments suggesting or downright saying that blacks are inherently less capable than whites. Things of that nature are what is problematic.

And if you are black, odds are that the latter is what is going to reverberate more as you consider Kirk's legacy.
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He didn't not. That's been disproven time and time again.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Nothing wrong with challenging the black community to better improve its own collective lot in life. Nothing wrong with doing that for any group in society, regardless of the identifier (race, gender, geography, etc).

But that is not all he did. He ALSO made comments suggesting or downright saying that blacks are inherently less capable than whites. Things of that nature are what is problematic.

And if you are black, odds are that the latter is what is going to reverberate more as you consider Kirk's legacy.
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A considerable amount of the comments you're referring to from Kirk, have been taken out of context, to conform to an agenda and fit a current narrative.

Those comments were also directed at prominent black women that certainly did not achieve their status based upon merit alone. Considering who he was referencing, merit was the least qualifying trait.
 
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lawgator1 said:
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But that is not all he did. He ALSO made comments suggesting or downright saying that blacks are inherently less capable than whites. ...
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Can you please provide proof? Every attempt I've seen has proven to be false. As a matter of fact, one of his major issues with DEI was that they are fully capable, and we shouldn't treat them otherwise.

Thanks.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Charlie Kirk himself did this. It was everywhere on the right. We still get jokes about him 5 years after the fact.

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You seem to forget Floyd was a criminal that day and in years past. But somehow his death elevated him to getting monuments. George Floyd was the hill the left wanted to die on (no pun).
 
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I don’t see any value to going round and round on this, many of his comments about blacks have been posted here, and invariably the defenders say that he didn't mean X, he meant Y. And round and round we go.

In the spirit of the moment I respect that some of you have a different view of what he said and meant, than I do.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I don’t see any value to going round and round on this, many of his comments about blacks have been posted here, and invariably the defenders say that he didn't mean X, he meant Y. And round and round we go.

In the spirit of the moment I respect that some of you have a different view of what he said and meant, than I do.
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Typical response when asked for actual proof... Lol clowns to the end
 
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lawgator1 said:
I don’t see any value to going round and round on this, many of his comments about blacks have been posted here, and invariably the defenders say that he didn't mean X, he meant Y. And round and round we go.

In the spirit of the moment I respect that some of you have a different view of what he said and meant, than I do.
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Easy to post that when the proof you would bring is invariably shown to be horse ****. If you can't support the claims you're making about him, here's a radical though: Stop making them.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Charlie Kirk himself did this. It was everywhere on the right. We still get jokes about him 5 years after the fact.
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Jokes about Floyd? No. Calling out the behavior from the left for lifting him up on a pedestal as a martyr for the black community, while the majority, if not all of the democrats in office played off of the incident, stoking the fires of racism that whitey is the problem. Taking a knee at the capitol for nine minutes, while wearing traditional Ghanaian kente scarves. Yes.

Floyd was no martyr. Not even close.
 
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