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I remember that. An important note too is that many of the camera angles show the knee across the back. We also don’t know how much of his body weight he’s applying, but it doesn’t look to me like he’s attempting to really push down

If I remember correctly.

Floyd was saying I can’t breathe?

At this point Floyd is handcuffed and not a threat, so why then did Chauvin feel the need to keep his knee on Floyd’s back and neck?

I also recall another man dying while handcuffed and a cop with his knee on his back and neck. If I remember correctly the cops were making jokes and laughing while the man was dying.

The best course of action for Chauvin would have been to get off Floyd once handcuffed and not a threat.
 
I just came here to say watching luther cower down to the argument presented by orange_crush was extremely entertaining to read.
I will, and have, gone on record about Luther. He's a nut. That's why Fife is his Avi. Now, it may take a long time for the train to get around the bend, but occasionally he will kind of yield that there's a curve in the tracks. If you've ever had echanges with him outside the PF in other threads, you can form an appreciation for him.
 
If I remember correctly.

Floyd was saying I can’t breathe?

At this point Floyd is handcuffed and not a threat, so why then did Chauvin feel the need to keep his knee on Floyd’s back and neck?

I also recall another man dying while handcuffed and a cop with his knee on his back and neck. If I remember correctly the cops were making jokes and laughing while the man was dying.

The best course of action for Chauvin would have been to get off Floyd once handcuffed and not a threat.
That's been pretty much the resounding summation all thread, and only logical answer to all his troubles.
 
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I do not believe there will be any significant exodus of D's from the party.

I think some centrists/swing voters may be effected but I think party line voters have just entrenched themselves further into their party identity.

And to those swing voters there's still a lot of time until the next election. The news cycle can bring any turn of events and you can rest assured the left is planning on making speech and freedom a cornerstone of their platform. And Trump is given them ammo when he has nothing to gain from it.
The easiest way to take the wind out of that sail is for Vance, Rubio, or whoever runs for the GOP ticket to not even invoke the name of Trump. Or acknowledge endorsements. It'd be hilarious if the candidates and Trump even banded together covertly and said hey, wanna have a little fun. Keep my name out of it and see what happens. They'd go crazy.
 
Why wouldn't Ben Crump do this? Props to Kap though.
What is there to challenge? Coroner released preliminary info that said there were absolutley no signs of any injury or anything indicating any sort of attacks or assaults. As long as the coroner is not lting for a coverup, that 2nd autopsy will only serve to throw egg on their face. Otherwise it'd come to light awfully quick. Can't blame them for wanting to do so, but this is a case of sooner the better.
 
If I remember correctly.

Floyd was saying I can’t breathe?

I don’t know that you do remember right. Floyd was saying from the beginning of his encounter with law enforcement and ended up on the ground because he threw himself to the ground

At this point Floyd is handcuffed and not a threat, so why then did Chauvin feel the need to keep his knee on Floyd’s back and neck?

Because he was acting highly erratic.


I also recall another man dying while handcuffed and a cop with his knee on his back and neck. If I remember correctly the cops were making jokes and laughing while the man was dying.

Idk the referenced case

The best course of action for Chauvin would have been to get off Floyd once handcuffed and not a threat.

There’s a lot of factors I think you’re intentionally ignoring like the crowd control element of the case that Chauvin had to deal with while also dealing with Floyd and the obvious fact that Floyd was not complaining of his breathing due to the knee on his back
 
I don’t know that you do remember right. Floyd was saying from the beginning of his encounter with law enforcement and ended up on the ground because he threw himself to the ground



Because he was acting highly erratic.




Idk the referenced case



There’s a lot of factors I think you’re intentionally ignoring like the crowd control element of the case that Chauvin had to deal with while also dealing with Floyd and the obvious fact that Floyd was not complaining of his breathing due to the knee on his back
Call me silly, but what were the other cops for then?
 
They were standing around watching ??
I went back and watched the video and I didn’t see much crowd interference. I must have been thinking of another cop video that I had seen. My only opinion of this case is that if DC was following police policy then he was innocent and if he wasn’t then he should be in jail where is currently.
 
I'm sure millions of americans will be voting for democrats in the next presidential election so we can all join w/BLM & walk the streets showing our actions to one another like this. Just makes my heart swell w/pride & love beyond measure wanting to join.
 
It was based on current events. All four women talked about the supreme court ruling on Affirmative Action. In Michelle Obama’s defense she didn’t say she was an Affirmative Action student. She stated that her counselor said that she wouldn’t be able to get into Princeton. It was a podcast, I don’t see the big issue. I like Bill Maher’s show and he does similar things. People are too sensitive.

I posted a few videos showing how CK felt about minorities and gay people. No one that is left leaning commented on those vudeos bc they didn’t fit their narrative.
So imaginary quotes based (loosely) on current events. In other words they didn't say what you attributed to them. It's nice to have a vivid imagination, I guess.
 
That coroner wasn’t black
2nd reviews aren't uncommon, and maybe would be good for this case. I can't help but think a 2nd review would be stronger if the original coroner and a 3rd party professional could observe form above, like the those overhead operating room galleries. Inevitably there will also be conflict saying the 2nd one changed findings cause the 1st one was white.
 
Call me silly, but what were the other cops for then?

The crowd outnumbered them, did it not? You also seem to have ignored my other point that his claims he couldn’t breath were ongoing before Chauvin.
 
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