Charlie Kirk Shot and killed

[n_huffhines]

Is the division that started in 2008, the magnified division which leads to CK's murder?

If so, I disagree it started with Obama.

We've always been divided to some degree. It's impossible to blame the climate for a one-off. The only thing we can conclude is that the assassin felt like Kirk was divisive and he personally needed to do something about it. It's not necessarily a referendum on societal division.

When I was trying to figure out what year Kirk was claiming was our peak (1970), my research turned up a fact that the FBI recorded literally thousands of bombings/attempts that year. This might be the most divided we've been in my lifetime, but nothing I'm living through feels like it's the same as thousands of bombings in a year. That is bananas.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

There is some missing context that makes that statement very disingenuous.

Are you talking about the previous statement that he should be tried for his crimes? It's not disingenuous at all.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

He was 100% talking about the Fire Chief. So why didn’t the Fire Chief send the water rescue team ASAP to help

I don't know, but regardless, it wasn't because he was a DEI hire

 

[GVF]

Well I guess Mr Robinson pretty much validated that correlation.

Thw way of the left. Once you brainwash a generation into believing facts are racist and hate speeach, you have paved the way for the rest of the real NWO and real facism to take over. "Hey, wait, I thought you said those other people were the facists." lol.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Nah not even close lol. I live in my 7 red light county go to work and come home to my family rinse and repeat. Blessed with a women to grow old with.

You on the other hand are spoiled and think you are better than everyone

I have never been spoiled my entire life and again, you don't know what I think. I grew up in a middle class family and worked my ass off to get to the next level

 

[LadyVolette]

Well I guess Mr Robinson pretty much validated that correlation.

This. Unfortunately. The irony is the timing in that the murderer more than likely could not hear what was being said, but proved Kirk’s point in the end.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[Carl Pickens]

 

[McDad]

We've always been divided to some degree. It's impossible to blame the climate for a one-off. The only thing we can conclude is that the assassin felt like Kirk was divisive and he personally needed to do something about it. It's not necessarily a referendum on societal division.

When I was trying to figure out what year Kirk was claiming was our peak (1970), my research turned up a fact that the FBI recorded literally thousands of bombings/attempts that year. This might be the most divided we've been in my lifetime, but nothing I'm living through feels like it's the same as thousands of bombings in a year. That is bananas.

I think there is a lot of recency bias in play.

I also believed strongly radical voices spread faster, farther, and louder than ever before. I guesstimate the % radical fringe at about 5-10% on each end of our political spectrum.

 

[GVF]

We've always been divided to some degree. It's impossible to blame the climate for a one-off. The only thing we can conclude is that the assassin felt like Kirk was divisive and he personally needed to do something about it. It's not necessarily a referendum on societal division.

When I was trying to figure out what year Kirk was claiming was our peak (1970), my research turned up a fact that the FBI recorded literally thousands of bombings/attempts that year. This might be the most divided we've been in my lifetime, but nothing I'm living through feels like it's the same as thousands of bombings in a year. That is bananas.

The 70's had alot of anti-right, anti-machine hate groups going on. Weather Underground, Black Panthers, New World Liberation Front, Symbionese Liberation Army and a host of others that did alot of bombing.

 

[Orange_Crush]

The people aren't being gaslighted anymore.

 

[85SugarVol]

It's obvious

Lolzzzz….

 

[OHvol40]

So the DOJ doubles down and uses it's influence to investigate and intimidate Mom's and dad's asking for input and transparency in their children's schooling? Aren't they just proving Trump correct? Or is it your position that never happened?

I have no problem with them being skeptical of Trump, they should be skeptical of all administrations.

I’m sure that I don’t know what you’re referring to with the schooling reference.

The problem isn’t their ability to be skeptical, the problem is their ability to operate independent of political biases and with ethical standards. Trump has clearly removed the roadblocks to his accountability, which is why people are pointing to him as an autocrat. How many IGs did he eliminate when he took office?

His supporters view it as removing roadblocks, his naysayers view it as removing checks on his power. If the latter is correct, though, it’s extremely dangerous and inherently un-American. There is a reason the FF preferred “Gentelmen” retain the order of our democratic republic.

 

[Carl Pickens]

Are you talking about the previous statement that he should be tried for his crimes? It's not disingenuous at all.

During an episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, he stated: "I know what you're thinking, we've got to get Joe Biden out of the way so we can run against Kammy. Oh my goodness, is she beatable. ... [Biden] should be put in prison and/or given the death penalty for crimes against America." This remark was in the context of criticizing Biden's border policies as treasonous.

It appears to me he’s calling Biden a traitor

 

[InVOLuntary]

I didn't minimize anything. I referred to Obama without you mentioning his name. You are the liar. I never denied some in the left want to disarm America. Another lie. You're making things up and misrepresenting my positions. You are literally exposing yourself as a liar with your posts. It's not like you don't already have that reputation anyway.

Yes, if we were totally disarmed that would be a form of fascism. Not one piece of legislation has gone through committee to disarm Americans in my lifetime. Not once, so you are just making it up as you go trying to create a conflict that you will lose on every front

Obama's cronies did those things at the very end of his second term. No reason to impeach him. Nixon's aides were doing it in his first term.

Here is your exact quote. You dismissed Obama's role in the Steel Dossier. Quit doubling down on your lies.


So so far we've established:

Democrats think Blacks are unable to make anything of themselves without help from whitey.
The democrats have created a false narrative, used their media to spread those lies to try and damage a political opponent.
The democrats ultimate goal is to totally disarm American citizens.

Let's continue...

Would it be troubling if a government sent Law enforcement/intelligence agencies to social media/media in general and have them suppress damaging information about a political figure and have them silence the opposition voices? Would that be fascist behavior? Wouldn't that be similar to the Nazis using SS troops?

 

[Go aeiou]

We've always been divided to some degree. It's impossible to blame the climate for a one-off. The only thing we can conclude is that the assassin felt like Kirk was divisive and he personally needed to do something about it. It's not necessarily a referendum on societal division.

When I was trying to figure out what year Kirk was claiming was our peak (1970), my research turned up a fact that the FBI recorded literally thousands of bombings/attempts that year. This might be the most divided we've been in my lifetime, but nothing I'm living through feels like it's the same as thousands of bombings in a year. That is bananas.

1970 was a good year (college freshman) except for the Viet Nam War. The draft caused a lot of young men die.

 

[Carl Pickens]

Kimmel is a left fellating tool. He has to be to get talent into his show. Who cares, he's not news and he's in a dying genre of entertainment trying to remain relevant...... He also might just be goading some of you into rage viewing.

Looks like Jimmy may have stepped in it

 

[McDad]

The 70's had alot of anti-right, anti-machine hate groups going on. Weather Underground, Black Panthers, New World Liberation Front, Symbionese Liberation Army and a host of others that did alot of bombing.

There been several leftist fringe groups. It's not a leftist phenomenon though, is it?

 

[Go aeiou]

We've always been divided to some degree. It's impossible to blame the climate for a one-off. The only thing we can conclude is that the assassin felt like Kirk was divisive and he personally needed to do something about it. It's not necessarily a referendum on societal division.

When I was trying to figure out what year Kirk was claiming was our peak (1970), my research turned up a fact that the FBI recorded literally thousands of bombings/attempts that year. This might be the most divided we've been in my lifetime, but nothing I'm living through feels like it's the same as thousands of bombings in a year. That is bananas.

1970 was a good year (college freshman) except for the Viet Nam War. The draft caused a lot of young men die.

 

[Go aeiou]

We've always been divided to some degree. It's impossible to blame the climate for a one-off. The only thing we can conclude is that the assassin felt like Kirk was divisive and he personally needed to do something about it. It's not necessarily a referendum on societal division.

When I was trying to figure out what year Kirk was claiming was our peak (1970), my research turned up a fact that the FBI recorded literally thousands of bombings/attempts that year. This might be the most divided we've been in my lifetime, but nothing I'm living through feels like it's the same as thousands of bombings in a year. That is bananas.

1970 was a good year (college freshman) except for the Viet Nam War. The draft caused a lot of young men die.
Protesters did sometimes get violent.

 

[luthervol]

So you do believe that you have access to and can know at least some objective truth? If so, what makes you believe that? (I'm asking because I don't want to misrepresent you from an aging memory per several years ago.)

Is it because you don't believe in objective moral truth that you do not believe that you can prove that Trump is a horrendously despicable person? Because you don't have anything of substance to base the claim on?

I do believe that I can objectively know that 1+1=2.
I also know that I love my wife. I do not believe that I could prove that I love my wife to some idiot claiming that I did not; nor would I even try. I would state it as known fact and not overly concern myself with others' thoughts on the matter.

 

[Orange_Crush]

you do know that men a lot harder than women, don’t u?

Anti-trans if you ask me. Women-penises can get hard too.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Here is your exact quote. You dismissed Obama's role in the Steel Dossier. Quit doubling down on your lies.


So so far we've established:

Democrats think Blacks are unable to make anything of themselves without help from whitey.
The democrats have created a false narrative, used their media to spread those lies to try and damage a political opponent.
The democrats ultimate goal is to totally disarm American citizens.

Let's continue...

Would it be troubling if a government sent Law enforcement/intelligence agencies to social media/media in general and have them suppress damaging information about a political figure and have them silence the opposition voices? Would that be fascist behavior? Wouldn't that be similar to the Nazis using SS troops?

Obama's role wasn't exposed until after he was President. Do you not understand that he was unable to be impeached? You're a dumb MFer who can't comprehend simple explanations.

You never asked about the other stuff you're rambling about. You're trying so hard to invent something about me and my positions on specific issues that it makes you look like a pathetic, jealous loser. You're manufacturing a conflict and literally lying your ass off on every post

 

[Orange_Crush]

I do believe that I can objectively know that 1+1=2.
I also know that I love my wife. I do not believe that I could prove that I love my wife to some idiot claiming that I did not; nor would I even try. I would state it as known fact and not overly concern myself with others' thoughts on the matter.

You did not answer. Here. The underlined. Thx.

So you do believe that you have access to and can know at least some objective truth? If so, what makes you believe that? (I'm asking because I don't want to misrepresent you from an aging memory per several years ago.)

Is it because you don't believe in objective moral truth that you do not believe that you can prove that Trump is a horrendously despicable person? Because you don't have anything of substance to base the claim on?

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]