Charlie Kirk Shot and killed

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InVOLuntary said:
Marxism is dictatorial, no? If you are using the government to subvert democracy, that would be Marxist behavior.
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nope. that would be lenninism, or some other forms of communism. marxism was much more anarchist than authoritarian.

marxism was based on a stateless/governmentless society where people belonged to collectives, you got to chose, that were more or less democratic.

this is why people shouldn't throw around such loaded terms. typically people don't know what they are actually saying. and end up using completely wrong terms.
 
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bamawriter said:
I agree, but it's irrelevant because those aren't the texts. That's a transcript of the DA reading the texts aloud. As I said earlier, it's likely that this is a "translation" of text speak into actual English.
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This is correct, I've seen some stuff leaked elsewhere with some speech that he himself jokes about Trump reading his texts and losing it when he says "uwu". Apparently that's flirty "furry" language.
 
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Charlie Kirk Assassin did NOT Act Alone and there is a Link to Trump Shooting in Butler, Steve Bannon claims​


Steven Bannon is 'not buying the script' surrounding prosecutors' case alleging Tyler Robinson shot Charlie Kirk without help – and wants investigators to explore links to the attempted assassination of Donald Trump.

Utah prosecutors on Tuesday released text messages between 22-year-old Tyler Robinson and his transgender lover Lance Twiggs.

Meanwhile, former Trump advisor Bannon does not believe the text messages tell the full picture of Kirk's assassination.

'I'm particularly not buying those text messages, it just seems too stilted, too much like a script – actually, like a bad script.

'So we got to get to the bottom of it,' Bannon said on his War Room podcast.

'You've got to get to the bottom of these groups, you've got to get to the bottom of Antifa, you've got to see if there's any connections to Butler [where Thomas Crooks attempted to killed Trump on July 13, 2024, in Pennsylvania].'

'We've got a whole lot of work to do, and no, I'm not buying the script that was in the text messages.'

'You just murdered the most important young person in the conservative movement, you shot him down like a dog, and you're telling me you're texting, "Dad's going to be very upset I lost grandpa's rifle." Are you kidding me?,' Bannon shouts. 'You expect me to believe that!?'

'How did the guy have time to write a sonnet? How did he worry about "Dad's really going to be upset about grandpa's rifle?"'

www.dailymail.co.uk

Steve Bannon 'not buying' lone gunman theory in Charlie Kirk killing

Bannon does not believe Robinson's text messages tell the full picture of the horrifying events surrounding Kirk's murder.
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whodeycin85 said:
Wasn't the civil war kinda reset....or hell the revolutionary war
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The revolutionary was not, it was the foundation. The civil war was the galvanization of this nation. Before that it was a rather loose association and loyalty was centered with the state.

Any future internal conflict will be the undoing. We won't survive it as a nation...... Just my opinion.
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
When he got shot he was literally trying to correlate trans people with mass shootings. This is spreading hatred towards a group of people. This is no different than the left trying to label all white cops as killers of innocent black people. When the left tells people this, what do you say? You say not all cops are bad but some are. But the bad cops aren’t the majority right? And I agree. But this applies to the trans community too, some are bad but most are not. When the left jumps to calling all white cops racist I fight against that nonsense too.
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Was he saying that all trans people are violent? What correlation was he trying to build? A higher per capita proclivity towards violence withing the community? Does it bear out? If so, would it be a positive thing to understand that?
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
I didn't say it wasn't wrong. You were asking specifically about impeachment. Please don't try to put words in my mouth. BTW, Marxism and Fascism are on opposite sides of the ideological spectrum. You may not be dumb, but you certainly lack intellect. I am guessing you don't know the difference

Trump has engaged in more fascist like behavior than Obama and Nixon combined
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The problem is you excuse it. Why? I suspect it has to do because your side is doing it.

Has Trump sent the FBI/CIA to speech platforms and have them suppress damaging information and instruct them to suppress views opposite of his? Would you consider that fascist? This is equivalent to the SS in Germany.
 
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LouderVol said:
nope. that would be lenninism, or some other forms of communism. marxism was much more anarchist than authoritarian.

marxism was based on a stateless/governmentless society where people belonged to collectives, you got to chose, that were more or less democratic.

this is why people shouldn't throw around such loaded terms. typically people don't know what they are actually saying. and end up using completely wrong terms.
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Who wrote the communist manifesto?
 
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whodeycin85 said:
See id argue that only diversity of thought is a strength...the Chinese empire is evidence..they keep their cultural and racial diversity to a minimum. Accept only those contributing to society and they send their kids out into other countries to get different education and pov...now some of that may not be altruistic in nature but it has been effect to keep china around for that long.
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I don't disagree with this completely. But I'd argue that diversity has helped us to lead in the world where China is just now starting to close the gap.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Who wrote the communist manifesto?
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Engles and Marx. you could have just used the generic term of "communism" and been correct. but instead you tried to be more specific than your actual knowledge base supported.

don't get upset with me that you don't understand the context of the phrases you are trying to use. especially in a thread where people not understanding the context of a speaker lead to him getting killed.

understanding what others, and yourself, are actually saying without relying on assumptions is key to a healthy society.
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
When he got shot he was literally trying to correlate trans people with mass shootings. This is spreading hatred towards a group of people. This is no different than the left trying to label all white cops as killers of innocent black people. When the left tells people this, what do you say? You say not all cops are bad but some are. But the bad cops aren’t the majority right? And I agree. But this applies to the trans community too, some are bad but most are not. When the left jumps to calling all white cops racist I fight against that nonsense too.
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He was trying to answer a question from an audience member.
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
When he got shot he was literally trying to correlate trans people with mass shootings. This is spreading hatred towards a group of people. This is no different than the left trying to label all white cops as killers of innocent black people. When the left tells people this, what do you say? You say not all cops are bad but some are. But the bad cops aren’t the majority right? And I agree. But this applies to the trans community too, some are bad but most are not. When the left jumps to calling all white cops racist I fight against that nonsense too.
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A college student asked him how many mass shooters had been transgender in the past ten years.

CK answered too many….. How is that hate speech?
 
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LouderVol said:
Engles and Marx. you could have just used the generic term of "communism" and been correct. but instead you tried to be more specific than your actual knowledge base supported.

don't get upset with me that you don't understand the context of the phrases you are trying to use. especially in a thread where people not understanding the context of a speaker lead to him getting killed.

understanding what others, and yourself, are actually saying without relying on assumptions is key to a healthy society.
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Lol. Go ahead and try weave sone k8nd of technicality to try and change the narrative. You know exactly what I meant. The left has been calling Trump and his supporters racist, bigots, Nazis, Marxist, fascist, dictatorship etc.. They are the what they accuse others of, always.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
The problem is you excuse it. Why? I suspect it has to do because your side is doing it.

Has Trump sent the FBI/CIA to speech platforms and have them suppress damaging information and instruct them to suppress views opposite of his? Would you consider that fascist? This is equivalent to the SS in Germany.
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I didn't excuse it. You are a blatant liar
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Lol. Go ahead and try weave sone k8nd of technicality to try and change the narrative. You know exactly what I meant. The left has been calling Trump and his supporters racist, bigots, Nazis, Marxist, fascist, dictatorship etc.. They are the what they accuse others of, always.
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And Trump has been calling Democrats, and others who disagree with him, Communists and Marxists for 10 years.

Like I said, you're low intellect
 
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