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He beat who in 2016? It wasn't Obama. And Trump spent years questioning if Ovama was born here. Bc either he's an idiot or calculated. I believe calculated bc he knows how to motivate morons. Trump started all kinds of shat before he was in office. You'd have to be a moron to not think they are both massive dividers
Kind of strange the Democrats started the Obama wasn’t born in America in 2008

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Why was the trust previously eroded, in your mind?
FBI's and intelligence agencies involvement in the flawed premise for Trump investigations. I'm sure it was overstated but the political creep into investigative and intelligence apparatus is a problem.

Forgot to mention the DOJ and investigating involving themselves in protected speech at the local government level.
 
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They’re the ones that invented that dumb ass slogan “my truth.”
Is that better or worse than naming a social media platform, which caters to political partisans, "Truth Social" .... and also referring to its posts as "truths?"

You tell me which you think is dumber .... I think it's too close to call. 😂
 
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FBI's and intelligence agencies involvement in the flawed premise for Trump investigations. I'm sure it was overstated but the political creep into investigative and intelligence apparatus is a problem.
Is there anything specifically that eroded your trust before Trump was involved?
 
Is there anything specifically that eroded your trust before Trump was involved?
The biggest example was having the DOJ intimidate/investigate concerned and involved parents at the local government level exercising their protected rights to be heard and informed.
 
The biggest example was having the DOJ intimidate/investigate concerned and involved parents at the local government level exercising their protected rights to be heard and informed.
But nothing sticks out to you before Trump’s first term. Have you ever considered that there is intentional messaging coming from Trump and his administration that is designed to erode public trust in every institution, especially the “independent” ones that might hold him or his appointees accountable? For example Inspectors General, DOJ, the Judicial Branch, FBI, etc…
 
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Is that better or worse than naming a social media platform, which caters to political partisans, "Truth Social" .... and also referring to its posts as "truths?"

You tell me which you think is dumber .... I think it's too close to call. 😂

Well you left a lot out. Like “black lives matter,” which probably tops the list. “Planned parenthood.” Antifa.
 
Bunch of useful idiots.



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When you're too freaking ignorant to spell the words on your sign correctly, its safe to assume you are ignorant about the subject matter as well. We are talking about people supporting actual terrorists in this case though...so having your head up your butt is just par for the course.
 
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That trust was already eroded, we've seen politicization of institutions that had no business invested with politics. They've not done anything to reestablish that trust but I'm not sure it's possible. You can't put toothpaste back into the tube once out.

I think it will be like every other element of government, swinging wildly back and forth in a perpetual dance.
CDC weighing in on social issues was pretty eye opening.
 
80% of rightwingers are gullible enough to believe this bs

From the Left that believes in:

Fictional piss tapes
The Steele dossier
Biden sat on Trump Epstein stuff 4 years
47 fictional genders
Women can have penises
Men can give birth
CO2 is a greenhouse gas
Global ice ages coming
Global warming floods will kill us all
The Ozone layer had manmade holes
Vax or ventilator
Masks stop covid transmission
Covid vax prevents infection
Biden cared about blacks
Biden was "sharp as a tack"
Biden actually knew where he was...

I could continue, this is just a quick reminder about "gullibility" off the top of my head...
 
I like this place, I've got my family, my animals and my co-workers but I've always struggled at meaningful connections with people. Funny thing is for years I worked in social settings, bars/clubs private events as security and doorman. If you'd met me you'd have thought I was the life of the party, but I was miserable, lots of alcohol and drugs numbed and allowed me to function in those settings.

this place is my social network, it can be toxic at times but I enjoy the banter and the debate most days.

This was me in my teens and early 20s. I drank everyday to overcome social anxiety and self consciousness in public and social settings. I fit in fine as long as I was loaded. Had no problem walking up to pretty girls or making conversations with new people. Sober either one of those is not likely to happen and other than Church or UT games I avoid crowds at all costs. I am extremely quiet and keep to myself unless around family or a couple close friends I have known since HS. I found out as an adult that there are lots of people who experience social anxiety like us...thought i was the only one and super weird back then. I dont know what my kids generation is gonna do but SM and texting has made them all kinda socially awkward. I think birthrates for American citizens are gonna plummet.
 
The ends justifies the means sounds like justification i would expect from Trump, too.
Yea, I guess. You've tried drawing that parallel multiple times now.
The PF needs more balance. If I were posting in a far left forum, I would position myself differently.
Kind of like living in GA near Athens makes me much more motivated to show my TN fandom than if I was living near Knoxville. All about balancing the scales.
 
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