Charlie Kirk Shot and killed

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K-town Vol Fan said:
So you can't be mad that Kirk was killed. Or that kids are killed at school on a pretty regular basis. Because as long as guns are rampant in this country, anyone can kill anyone pretty much any time they want to. You get shot or you don't, thems the breaks.
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This made my eye twitch.
 
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YankeeVol said:
Not gonna quote posts.

Employment is a privilege, not a right.

You have the right to say whatever the **** you want. Your employer doesn’t have to agree, and can act accordingly
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The amount of teachers I’ve seen bitching about this on social media after getting fired is embarrassing and also hilarious.
 
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C-south said:
It seems most of the dims with the most testosterone are actually women.
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Facts. Especially the post menopausal 40s and 50s white liberal women. Unlike men, they've been off limits for getting punched in the mouth for their entire lives and gotten used to being able to run their mouths all the time...then the estrogen/progesterone goes away and they are super aggressive and confrontationial. YIKES. Nasty, terrible hags that no man in their right mind is gonna put up with. NO. THANKS.

A BIG portion of those getting fired for celebrating this murder are these hags. Seems to be most of them.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
So you can't be mad that Kirk was killed. Or that kids are killed at school on a pretty regular basis. Because as long as guns are rampant in this country, anyone can kill anyone pretty much any time they want to. You get shot or you don't, thems the breaks.
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This is worse than a " Dear Coach" take on here. Fundamentaly useless
 
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YankeeVol said:
One contract pays for college you dolt (no offense, but kinda). Plus depending on the MOS, gives you an ACTUAL skill.

It’s not “little money“ comparatively. They would learn more from service than college by far.
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Sure but that’s if you’ve changed your mind and decided what you want to go to college for, a big chunk of vets that go that route just drop out within a year. (at least not you’re not 100k in debt). E1 starts at what $2200? I’m not saying college is any better
 
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volfanhill said:
This is worse than a " Dear Coach" take on here. Fundamentaly useless
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"Unless you believe they should take all the hammers away, you can't be mad if someone gets bludgeoned to death."

"Unless you believe they should take all the pens away, you can't get mad if someone stabs you in the ye with one."

"Unless you attribute human evil to inanimate objects, you can't hate human evil."


The PF is like playing cards with your brother's kids sometimes.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Facts. Especially the post menopausal 40s and 50s white liberal women. Unlike men, they've been off limits for getting punched in the mouth for their entire lives and gotten used to being able to run their mouths all the time...then the estrogen/progesterone goes away and they are super aggressive and confrontationial. YIKES. Nasty, terrible hags that no man in their right mind is gonna put up with. NO. THANKS.

A BIG portion of those getting fired for celebrating this murder are these hags. Seems to be most of them.
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Say what you want but the daddy issues with bad tattoos are my kyptonite.
 
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malinoisvol said:
25 years, 3 months, and 28 days AD USAF. Enlisted at the age of 17. All I knew out of HS was I wanted to make my own money and see the world and I achieved both. I'd do it again.

My oldest is presently 16 years AD USAF with the last 14 years spent at various locations all over the world. He has more money in the bank than I made my first 10 years in service. Lol

Both of us have experienced ups and downs while serving, its just life.
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Thanks for your service.
My Pappaw served 26 like you and retired a Master Sergeant bitter he didnt make Chief. Not bitter towards USAF though.
He loved it, and our country.

My Dad (not his son) also served 26 years USAF/ last couple in Reserves and retired a full bird Colonel.

Favorite AFB they were stationed at so I spent time/sunmers at are Hill and Lowry. Both because of the Rockies etc. The Liberals may have already ruined CO by now though...i know they're hard at it.
 
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evillawyer said:
It's an attempt (not very well done) to undermine the Dems by juxtaposing their supposed "violent" statements with their current statements. So in that sense I'd call this a rhetorically permissible use of whataboutism. But the attempt fails. Other than the Goldman statement about "eliminating" Trump, I don't see anything in there that really approaches the use of violent rhetoric. I don't think the use of the word fascist and Nazi is violent rhetoric. That's political hyperbole, akin to how Dems are called commies by those on the right (communists, after all, killed way more than the Nazis and fascists - so if fascist and Nazi are violent rhetoric, then so too is commie).
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I believe the third individual is in there because he states “we’re at war” in the first clip, then goes onto say that the other side needs to tone it down. He’s a fail along with Goldman.

Crockett is just babbling in her clips. I think it’s an incoherent example.

Certainly entitled to your opinion that repeatedly calling others Nazis & Fascists is incapable of inspiring violent action. Though the subject of this thread may contradict that.

Yes, calling others Communist is in the very same vein. Though some do actually embrace that label. No one chooses to call themselves Nazi - it’s more pejorative.
 
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Smokey123 said:
Sure but that’s if you’ve changed your mind and decided what you want to go to college for, a big chunk of vets that go that route just drop out within a year. (at least not you’re not 100k in debt). E1 starts at what $2200? I’m not saying college is any better
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Don’t know the current pay chart, nor does it matter. It’s still vastly better than going to college and not knowing (or getting a gender studies degree that doesn’t mean chit).

I changed my major 3 times as an adult lol. I don’t know of many that “drop out.” I know more that don’t utilize the benefit. It doesn’t even have to be college. It can pay for flight school, trucking etc.

Anyone who is against recommending the service as a strong alternative is a weak individual, period.

”A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.”
 
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Orange_Crush said:
You're just wrong. Period.

You walked into this conversation with zero knowledge of context. You've bluffed your way through it the entire time, and still don't know what you are talking about. For instance, Charlie didn't make it about race, as you just posted. The entire conversation was a response to the four women who made it about race.

If I am a 'joke' for the level of my response, it's pure disgust at what you and others in here are doing. You have literally created a new low for yourself. Carry on. Seriously. You're just outing yourself as a disgusting individual who's inventing ways and reasons to attack a man who was just murdered and can no longer defend himself--all for political purposes. It's despicable. You are despicable.

If feeling that way is a joke, I am the funniest man to ever live.

You and the others in here mischaracterizing Charlie for these reasons truly and deeply disgust me. And that is showing restraint.
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Good god man, give it a rest.....you're hyperventilating.

Pointing out that the guy said some stupid stuff is no more disgusting than pretending that the guy was some type of saint deserving of nothing but praise and adoration.

He shouldn't have been shot. It's tragic that he was......making light of a tragedy is rarely, if ever, appropriate.
Maybe empathy is called for.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
So you can't be mad that Kirk was killed. Or that kids are killed at school on a pretty regular basis. Because as long as guns are rampant in this country, anyone can kill anyone pretty much any time they want to. You get shot or you don't, thems the breaks.
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Banning guns will never stop gun deaths. Bad guys don't follow rules. Do you think a ban on guns would have prevented either?

... No I don't own a gun. But if you want to become a slave to the Government even more than we already are.. Give up guns.
 
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luthervol said:
Good god man, give it a rest.....you're hyperventilating.

Pointing out that the guy said some stupid stuff is no more disgusting than pretending that the guy was some type of saint deserving of nothing but praise and adoration.

He shouldn't have been shot. It's tragic that he was......making light of a tragedy is rarely, if ever, appropriate.
Maybe empathy is called for.
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Your MO is to say stupid stuff, ignore detailed arguments, and then call the poster a joke with no argument. You are a complete waste of time.

You misrepresented his argument, invented motives based in your personal incredulity and political bend, just to attack a murdered man who can't defend himself, all because you consider his legacy to be dangerous to your political side.

I am not hyperventilating. I am disgusted. By you. Are we clear enough now?
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
So you can't be mad that Kirk was killed. Or that kids are killed at school on a pretty regular basis. Because as long as guns are rampant in this country, anyone can kill anyone pretty much any time they want to. You get shot or you don't, thems the breaks.
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Wut. That’s a wildly incoherent take lol.
 
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YankeeVol said:
About that claim…any proof?

Not that I don’t believe you (I don’t), but I walked on the moon not once, but twice
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Well it certainly isn't remotely close to anything like walking on the moon. Lots of people in VolNation have had similar lives. No reason to lie about it as it I can't imagine making all that up off the top of my head with my limited brain processing power. I suppose at this point it's only appropriate to honor the legacy of Charlie Kirk by countering with, "PROVE ME WRONG!" 😉
 
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YankeeVol said:
Don’t know the current pay chart, nor does it matter. It’s still vastly better than going to college and not knowing (or getting a gender studies degree that doesn’t mean chit).

I changed my major 3 times as an adult lol. I don’t know of many that “drop out.” I know more that don’t utilize the benefit. It doesn’t even have to be college. It can pay for flight school, trucking etc.

Anyone who is against recommending the service as a strong alternative is a weak individual, period.

”A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.”
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I never advocated for college lol. It absolutely matters when you said it’s not little comparatively, they’re earning less than those in the same age range and it’s 10x harder

It’s a pretty large number according to the VA. Something like 15% and 40% for part and full timers
 
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What concerns me about the latest commentary is that in sone quarters there doesn't seem to be any distinction drawn between actually calling for violence versus criticizing the views of victims of violence.

For example, a right wing adherent can believe both of these things:

1) the killing of Hortman was horrible and cannot be justified; and
2) Hortman stood for and advocated for policies which are, to the right wing point of view, terribly wrong.

The fact that she was assassinated doesn't suddenly mean that she or her views cannot be criticized, else the right winger criticizing her is now suddenly a domestic terrorist who must be investigated and fired for having the temerity to criticize a victim.

On the flip side, it is possible to:

1) Find the assassination of Kirk to be abhorrent and unjustifiable; but
2) continue even after his death to disagree and criticize his views and comments.


In both cases, engaging in the second premise doesn't preclude the first and does not justify saying that the person is advocating or defending violence.
 
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