Charlie Kirk Shot and killed

[OrangeTsar]

Can you admit Joe Biden made a racist comment when he said you aren’t black if you don’t vote for me

See what he said about schools being a racial jungle. Or about Indians working at 7-11z

 

[Hoosier_Vol]

 

[CagleMtnVol]

View attachment 774057

It should have been done the minute Republicans took power.

 

[Orangeburst]

And you are well within your right to choose to see it that way.

 

[evillawyer]

Did Joe Biden making a racist comment when he said you aren’t black if you don’t vote me. He was questioning the black population intelligence

Deflection with a whataboutism = admission of defeat w/r/t the argument raised.

 

[Smokey123]

I can't open your eyes if you've closed your mind.

The irony

 

[luthervol]

Your point would stand if Jackie Robinson admitted to only being there because of DEI, and then couldn't hit a baseball. That was the entire point of his quote. It was four very public women who claimed to only be where they are because of DEI. Four women that Charlie Kirk repeatedly called dumb. PUBLIC women that Charlie had repeatedly said that he observed and found to be intellectually lacking.

You are having to perform mental gymnastics to twist it into anything else.


But the interesting thing is that you are changing the argument, which is why I just asked for clarification. Here's your opening salvo, which I was color coding to defend against:



No. It only takes an ability and willingness to consider his statements in context to think that that was his logic. And reading comprehension in no way indicates even a possibility of racism. Hell, maybe we should argue that the belief that reading comprehension is a racist advantage would be a racist comment.

So he actually believed they were to dumb to succeed on their own merits?

Did he ever point to really "dumb" white people who weren't smart enough to actually hold the position they held....and then speculate as to how they got there?

 

[C-south]

So he actually believed they were to dumb to succeed on their own merits?

Did he ever point to really "dumb" white people who weren't smart enough to actually hold the position they held....and then speculate as to how they got there?

Like Joe Biden

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

The irony

I served sweetheart. You won't even consider it. And guess what... I didn't get within 5000 miles of the middle east. There is no irony there.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Like Joe Biden

End thread

 

[GVF]

Isn't it absurd?

And if one were to listen to what FOLLOWED the out-of-context sentence, he quadrupled down on making it explicitly about those four women and the unbelievable fact that they bragged about only being where they are because of DEI.

For those wanting to accuse him of racism to avoid admitting the positive impact he has had on young people not just in the US but across the world… there is one elephant in the Roman no one has addressed. I said it in one comment. Have t seen it anywhere else. What do the conservative blacks that work and travel either him and participate in his, or have their own, Q&A’s have to say about Charlie. He started this when he was 18 out of HS. Not one single person that has ever worked with him is on record for saying anything derogatory about him. Not one. Only liberal lefts who he was stealing constituents from have criticized Kirk.

 

[Orange_Crush]

So he actually believed they were to dumb to succeed on their own merits?

Did he ever point to really "dumb" white people who weren't smart enough to actually hold the position they held....and then speculate as to how they got there?

You'd have to ask him.


No. Wait. You can't. He was murdered in large part because a few ***holes convinced one ***hole that he'd said things he hadn't and that he was a thing that he wasn't.

Keep fighting the fight SJW. But I hate to tell you, your brief moment in the sun is over. We've moved past the effectiveness of the woke, "everyone I hate is a racist" playbook. You'll have to get more creative to stir up hate and dissent.

 

[Orange_Crush]

For those wanting to accuse him of racism to avoid admitting the positive impact he has had on young people not just in the US but across the world… there is one elephant in the Roman no one has addressed. I said it in one comment. Have t seen it anywhere else. What do the conservative blacks that work and travel either him and participate in his, or have their own, Q&A’s have to say about Charlie. He started this when he was 18 out of HS. Not one single person that has ever worked with him is on record for saying anything derogatory about him. Not one. Only liberal lefts who he was stealing constituents from have criticized Kirk.

When you kill someone and they become a sweeping martyr, you have to try to kill what's left of them.

It's despicable. But it's the current playbook.

 

[evillawyer]

Why don't you ask him?



Oh... Wow.



I guess we'll never know. I guess we'll just have to trust your interpretation as opposed to what he said or could say now in his defense, since he was murdered in large part because of people doing what you are doing right now.

This is not hard:

1. He claimed three or four of the most highly educated successful black women didn't have the brain processing power to be taken seriously.
2. He didn't say they didn't work hard to get where they were (a common complaint about affirmative action). He said they lacked the "brain processing power to be taken seriously." That's like saying a good college quarterback is serviceable, but he's never going to have the athletic talent necessary for stardom in the NFL. Most people think of brain processing power/athletic ability as being something you were born with or simply lack.
3. If he said that about these three or four highly educated, successful black women, do you honestly (and in good faith) believe he thought less educated and less successful black women had just as much "brain processing power" as other racial groups and more "brain processing power" than these three or four black women? Because if you're going to go with the "Charlie's not racist" argument, that proposition is what you have to accept.

 

[Hoosier_Vol]

 

[Orange_Crush]

This is not hard:

1. He claimed three or four of the most highly educated successful black women didn't have the brain processing power to be taken seriously.
2. He didn't say they didn't work hard to get where they were (a common complaint about affirmative action). He said they lacked the "brain processing power to be taken seriously." That's like saying a good college quarterback is serviceable, but he's never going to have the athletic talent necessary for stardom in the NFL. Most people think of brain processing power/athletic ability as being something you were born with or simply lack.
3. If he said that about these three or four highly educated, successful black women, do you honestly (and in good faith) believe he thought less educated and less successful black women had just as much "brain processing power" as other racial groups and more "brain processing power" than these three or four black women? Because if you're going to go with the "Charlie's not racist" argument, that proposition is what you have to accept.

It really shouldn't be this hard.

Again... You can't just point to what he said and trust that people will believe it was racist, and he was racist. You have to beg me to accept and implement your assumptions. It's incredibly weak.

I'm resting on the exhaustive case I've made. I don't need to accept or implement your assumptions.

 

[evillawyer]

View attachment 774060

You wanna buy some beachfront property in Kansas?

There are approximately 5,819 postsecondary Title IV institutions in the United States as of the 2023-24 academic year, according to the National Center for Education Statistics (NCES). This total includes 4-year institutions, 2-year colleges, and less-than-2-year institutions.

 

[evillawyer]

View attachment 774039

Yeah, they should have called someone the n word in his honor.

 

[Orange_Crush]

When you kill someone and they become a sweeping martyr, you have to try to kill what's left of them.

It's despicable. But it's the current playbook.

View attachment 774060

Yep. This is why it's more important than ever to kill him again. You can kill his body, but now it's even worse. Now it's his legacy that needs to be killed, dragged, and stood in the town square to rot in its open coffin.

But it won't work. All it does is expose the ones trying to do the dragging for what they actually are. All it's doing is driving the moderates further from the left.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Yeah, they should have called someone the n word in his honor.

How does that make any sense

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Yep. This is why it's more important than ever to kill him again. You can kill his body, but now it's even worse. Now it's his legacy that needs to be killed, dragged, and stood in the town square to rot in its open coffin.

But it won't work. All it does is expose the ones trying to do the dragging for what they actually are. All it's doing is driving the moderates further from the left.

I pray that this is correct

 

[85SugarVol]

Breaking news… She’s a complete dingbat.

EL & Huff been in here saying - “point to one leading Dem politician saying [insert Kirk comment]”

Then trot out that clown Loomer - “but look what she said though…”

 

[CobbVol]

You wanna buy some beachfront property in Kansas?

There are approximately 5,819 postsecondary Title IV institutions in the United States as of the 2023-24 academic year, according to the National Center for Education Statistics (NCES). This total includes 4-year institutions, 2-year colleges, and less-than-2-year institutions.

Now add high schools

 

[85SugarVol]

The party of free speech:

Hate Speech IS Free Speech.

 

[appvol]

Deflection with a whataboutism = admission of defeat w/r/t the argument raised.

Did Joe Biden making a racist comment when he said you aren’t black if you don’t vote me. He was questioning the black population intelligence. The defeat is you want answer.