Charlie Kirk Shot and killed

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lawgator1 said:
I would like us to draw that same distinction in the other direction, too.
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Are you asking for my definition? You can say whatever you want within a public forum with the exception of stating your intentions to cause physical harm to someone or making a request of others to do likewise.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Where is hate speech prohibited in the constitution?

I'm not arguing that he said anything that should be prohibited.

Hate speech is defined as "abusive or threatening speech or writing that expresses prejudice on the basis of ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, or similar grounds."

So telling women to submit to their husbands and that they are in charge expresses prejudice, for example. Not sure how you can argue against that. Using the term "prowling blacks" to fearmonger is another example of expressing prejudice. Fear-mongering that brown immigrants are intent on replacing us, for example.
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Yes, "hate speech" is speech that hurts people's feeling and/or displays the bigotry of the person saying it. Are we both in agreement that no speech, no matter how insulting to one's sensibilities it is, should not be banned from public discourse and should never be silenced through violence unless it is an irrefutable call to violent action?
 
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ETV said:
Enforces my opinion to avoid colleges for furthering education with kids. Go to a trade school, enlist with military branch, etc.

If college is a must have for your kid, try to steer them in the right direction when it comes to their destination.
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Military is an awful alternative
 
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ETV said:
Enforces my opinion to avoid colleges for furthering education with kids. Go to a trade school, enlist with military branch, etc.

If college is a must have for your kid, try to steer them in the right direction when it comes to their destination.
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Hillsdale
 
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wtmvol said:
Who could have predicted that the Right would go too far in policing speech in the aftermath of the assassination??

Many people have rightfully lost their jobs because of horrific things they posted that their employers felt they didn't want representing their place of business or school, including my county's school board chair who said and I quote "Call me old fashioned, but I remember when we used to be okay with shooting Nazis." If you want to be the party of free speech though, your level of tolerance for speech you don't like needs to be higher than the other party. You can't go on cancel culture rampages and still claim you're the free speech party.
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You say they rightfully lost their jobs. So your tolerance of free speech is low? Or what?
 
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CubsFanTN said:
Yes, "hate speech" is speech that hurts people's feeling and/or displays the bigotry of the person saying it. Are we both in agreement that no speech, no matter how insulting to one's sensibilities it is, should not be banned from public discourse and should never be silenced through violence unless it is an irrefutable call to violent action?
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Using the N word has been effectively banned from public discourse, and I'm good with that. I feel like both sides of the aisle should snuff all this out through voluntary action. The best way to do this is for each side to police their own, but we all know how much the GOP and DNC leadership are disinterested in that. The least we can hope for is Volnation people to police their side, but we're not seeing a ton of that, either.

I still can't find one MF right-winger on Volnation who will say anything negative about Elon Musk advocating for the removal of non-white immigrants as "the only way."
 
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Flogballs said:
You say they rightfully lost their jobs. So your tolerance of free speech is low? Or what?
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I don’t think most people should be losing their jobs over their Charlie Kirk posts. But I make an exception for educators and health care workers. Their temperament is in question and they have to be impartial to retain public confidence.
Just my two cents
 
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UTFanForLife said:
In the context of what the topic was, the women he was commenting on said they were in their positions due to DEI if I am not mistaken, at least one of them did. Then he made a comment about their intellect.

Saying they lack brain processing power is not even the bad part. Most of congress lack that same ability. What was worse is saying they replaced white people. I am not going to pretend I know who the other candidates were for those positions, so without that lack of context that part sounds really bad.

We got people in the government saying back people can’t figure out how to use a computer, it’s is all pandering and stupidity is abound in our government.
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A little more context of what he was talking about

 
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n_huffhines said:
Using the N word has been effectively banned from public discourse, and I'm good with that. I feel like both sides of the aisle should snuff all this out through voluntary action. The best way to do this is for each side to police their own, but we all know how much the GOP and DNC leadership are disinterested in that. The least we can hope for is Volnation people to police their side, but we're not seeing a ton of that, either.

I still can't find one MF right-winger on Volnation who will say anything negative about Elon Musk advocating for the removal of non-white immigrants as "the only way."
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Where did Elon say that exactly? And did he make a distinction between legal and illegal immigrants?
I would hazard to guess that his companies employ many legal immigrants; especially from India and Asia (engineering sweet spots)
 
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n_huffhines said:
Using the N word has been effectively banned from public discourse, and I'm good with that. I feel like both sides of the aisle should snuff all this out through voluntary action. The best way to do this is for each side to police their own, but we all know how much the GOP and DNC leadership are disinterested in that. The least we can hope for is Volnation people to police their side, but we're not seeing a ton of that, either.

I still can't find one MF right-winger on Volnation who will say anything negative about Elon Musk advocating for the removal of non-white immigrants as "the only way."
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Present!
There is around 7-10% of white people being here illegally (Europe, Australia, New Zealand). It is not the only way. We can't just send out only a certain kind of illegal immigrant. Either we let them all stay, or kick 'em all out. I prefer the latter.


However, I don't recall him saying that.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
So you think saying a group of black women only got their jobs because of DEI because they lack the brain processing power to do those jobs?

That's the exact same thing racist clowns were saying in the 1960s and 1970s about blacks playing the QB position. I actually heard that you into the early 1980s when I was playing collegiate sports
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So by holding to that standard, I will put $100,000 that you are a racist, misogynist and or bigot.
 
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Peradox1K said:
Present!
There is around 7-10% of white people being here illegally (Europe, Australia, New Zealand). It is not the only way. We can't just send out only a certain kind of illegal immigrant. Either we let them all stay, or kick 'em all out. I prefer the latter.


However, I don't recall him saying that.
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He said remigration is "the only way" and remigration is not about illegals, it's about non-white immigrants and their posterity. So you could be 3rd generation Mexican-American, and remigration means you're gone, pal.

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Peradox1K said:
Present!
There is around 7-10% of white people being here illegally (Europe, Australia, New Zealand). It is not the only way. We can't just send out only a certain kind of illegal immigrant. Either we let them all stay, or kick 'em all out. I prefer the latter.


However, I don't recall him saying that.
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Because he never said it. In fact he wants and supports more H-1B visa’s

He has talked about replacement theory tho so maybe that’s what he’s referring to
 
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n_huffhines said:
Using the N word has been effectively banned from public discourse, and I'm good with that. I feel like both sides of the aisle should snuff all this out through voluntary action. The best way to do this is for each side to police their own, but we all know how much the GOP and DNC leadership are disinterested in that. The least we can hope for is Volnation people to police their side, but we're not seeing a ton of that, either.

I still can't find one MF right-winger on Volnation who will say anything negative about Elon Musk advocating for the removal of non-white immigrants as "the only way."
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It has been banned? I hear it every day in the black community. Every. Day.
 
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