Charlie Kirk Shot and killed

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wtmvol said:
A few pages back someone made the claim that the left has gone further left and the right has gone further right.

I would assume it’s almost a unanimous opinion that the left as a whole has pushed much further to the left over the last 15 years, though obviously not everyone pushes as fast to the left. Anecdotally, living in a purple state, many of my liberal friends aren’t at all comfortable with many of the ideas espoused by the left.

Anyway, I would question the 2nd part about the right going further to the right. What issue(s) or idea(s) are going further to the right? I’m open to being wrong, but I just can’t think of anything.
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I’m a guy who supported Bill Clinton. I still believe all the things I believed then. I think Trump is a putz but he’s way closer to Bill Clinton than anyone left in the Democrat party.
I’m regularly accused of being MAGA here by the resident leftist. So that tells you how the democrats have changed.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
So, the situation here, as I see it is:

The preponderance of the evidence at the moment you posted this is that a radicalized far left extremist just had enough hate boil over that he murdered an innocent man in front of his wife and kids, but your primary concern is and has been that that connection not be made because of the evil right wing folks' hate.

You've spent years here demonizing Trump supporters in the apparent hope that it will be revealed to the world and its danger stamped out. But you perish the thought of radical left-wing violence being attributed because... the right are the evil ones.

That's tremendously helpful. Thank you for your contributions at this precarious time.
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Lolz… ask Huff what he thinks of political violence aimed at ICE agents.
 
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something that should be said of both the young radical left and right is that they're both totally dedicated to shitposting as a way of life and its almost indecipherable for anyone over 30. You can't tell what's real and whats their "humor", its also damn near impossible to tell one from the other.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Sending illegal immigrants back to where they came from is NOT VIOLENCE and NOT RACISM. Its the law. Period.

This is the silly crap I am talking about. Like you apparently, I have many Latino friends that I work with. Have them over to my house to eat with my family and care about them. That doesnt mean that we should let people illegally invade our country by the millions.
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This is exactly correct. The libs like Huff and LG demand that you must not only accept these illegal aliens in, but bow to their culture while completely disavowing yours and if you take a stand, you're a racist bigot xenophobe etc etc. It is truly sad how warped the left is against their country.

Imagine if you had huff, Dinka and bearded's political philosophy with recruiting football players as they do with wanting people come to America, our football would be a disaster
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Can you point to links where "all" of the inscriptions are "used" by Groypers?

B/C the bulge/oOo meme, as far as I can tell is embraced and used extensively by the "furry" LGBTQ community, which seems pretty widely known. I

'd appreciate seeing where "catch this, fascist" is more likely a right wing/groypers slogan than a, well, antifa(scist) slogan.

Is the "up arrow, right arrow, and three down arrows" symbol known right wing? It being on the same bullet as the antifascist inscription makes it likely right wing? Or is it more likley a reference to calling down a bomb in the Helldivers 2 video game, making the most likely full context of the inscription that an antifa war has been activated? (What makes Groypers the first and most likely interpretation of this?)

Similarly, I'd appreciate seeing what makes odes from the French resistance to WWII fascism more likely to be a right wing/groypers slogan than a leftist slogan in resistance to perceived modern fascism. Bella ciao - Wikipedia

Whatever facts come out, the point is that this looks far more likely to be a political gaslighting seeking to distance itself from one of their own.

"It was far right groypers!" Really? Please explain.

"He was a trump supporter because his family is conservative!" Really? Please explain.


But again... Can you show us how these inscriptions are common to groypers, and what would make it more logical to assume that their presence == far right? Especially with this being the first assumption when a major person in the conservative movement is the one assassinated. Appreciated in advance.
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This is the most honest interpretation of the writing on the ammo that I have seen. This kid used a discord server to communicate with his gay/antifa buddies. My Son used a discord chat and headphones to game Call of Duty FPS with his youth group buddies all through HS. They cooperatively and competitively play the same games and the same time. Discord is used to coordinate, talk junk to eachother etc. All the markings on the ammo are connected to his discord server, antifa, furries/gay/trans and the Helldivers videogame.

The REAL questions relate to WHO else was he coordinating with on this server to leave the weapon, engrave the ammo with the exact references only that small group of people would immediately understand the relevance of etc. He was apparently communicating with someone besides his gay boyfriend before the attack took place and apparently several of them AFTER the attack. Unlike the Biden admin or Democrat led officials in other areas like Nashville who suppressed the "trans" killers manifesto for months, in this case it happened in a Red state and under a Republican administration so we should have more details soon hopefully.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I’m a guy who supported Bill Clinton. I still believe all the things I believed then. I think Trump is a putz but he’s way closer to Bill Clinton than anyone left in the Democrat party.
I’m regularly accused of being MAGA here by the resident leftist. So that tells you how the democrats have changed.
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Yup, the Republicans, changing decades of neglect, are the party that is enlarging their tent; whilst the democrats with their ever more strident demands for ideological purity, are actively shrinking theirs.
Unless some centrist rises in the dem party and starts restoring sanity; the trend will accelerate.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
That sounds remarkably like a "I disagree, even though I'm ignorant" card.

Would it be more beneficial for yourself and everyone else to go do the work that would support an informed opinion, and then jump back in the discussion?
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I can't get past his comments that there should be no separation of church and state and that the country and government should be Christian. I am Christian but I loathe the idea of the merger of church and government.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
If a republican does something like that and millions of Republicans celebrate it, I will denounce it just like I have here. I support anyone that celebrates something like that to lose their jobs, ostracized by the masses. I'm not a republican by the way.
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So if a registered democrat simply denounces it, they're absolved from this sin by association you've so meticulously constructed?
 
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apevol said:
idk what huff said but tbf if unidentified masked assailants start accosting me, I'm probably gonna hurt as many of them as I can out of pure instinct
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No one would judge you for personally reacting that way. I probably would as well.

Huff has repeatedly shared/posted calls that it is “morally acceptable to do anything to an ICE agent”.

Infer from that what you will. But the implication is that the ICE agents are… you guessed it… jack booted Nazis.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
By definition, when someone is radicalized, they do not know that they are full of ****.

Huff said that he uses screenshots instead of links because he refuses to give them traffic.
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If true…. It would be nice if he at least watched the videos. He has shared numerous screenshots with misleading headlines.
 
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85SugarVol said:
No one would judge you for personally reacting that way. I probably would as well.

Huff has repeatedly shared/posted calls that it is “morally acceptable to do anything to an ICE agent”.

Infer from that what you will. But the implication is that the ICE agents are… you guessed it… jack booted Nazis.
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I think there's enough very recent evidence of objectively poor conduct from ICE agents to warrant a very high degree of wariness from anyone on the business end of their dealings.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Lolz… ask Huff what he thinks of political violence aimed at ICE agents.
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And despite how many times it’s been brought up, has he ever addressed that? Just a simple “I do not agree with that thing I posted” would be a good start
 
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