Charlie Kirk Shot and killed

[Orangeslice13]

So we've gone from "guns don't kill people, people kill people," to "guns don't kill people, words kill people."

So you no longer think Trump caused Jan 6th.
You partisan hack flip flopping is hard to keep up with

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

This is good, right?

No riots, looting, vandalism, or burning buildings.

 

[n_huffhines]

I initially assumed the killer would be transexual.
I'm by no means convinced he was a groyper.

If he was a registered Republican I wouldn't be telling you HAHA HES ONE OF YOURS, and it appears thats what a lot of people are doing, left and right.

If Fuentes isn't one of yours what makes you think its ok to say Tyler is one of LGs? Or Luthers? Or Huffs?

You think they like people getting shot? You think they're all furries with pink hair?

I'm just hoping for the outcome that calms the most tensions and some people in here are wanting things to boil over. They want to have more reason to hate. Far right groyper would be a terrible outcome for them. They need it to be somehow related to trans and the left so that trans kids going to school tomorrow can get harassed and bullied even more than normal. They need it to be the left so they can shame 40m voters, as if they had something to do with this.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I initially assumed the killer would be transexual.
I'm by no means convinced he was a groyper.

If he was a registered Republican I wouldn't be telling you HAHA HES ONE OF YOURS, and it appears thats what a lot of people are doing, left and right.

If Fuentes isn't one of yours what makes you think its ok to say Tyler is one of LGs? Or Luthers? Or Huffs?

You think they like people getting shot? You think they're all furries with pink hair?

But he is. If folks weren't trying their damnest to make it something other than it is but call it what it is, another deranged far left member of the LGBTQ+ community, the community the left has championed, it wouldn’t be an issue. Plus, if left's media hadn't hadn't pushed the DNC's propaganda of people on the right being racist, fascist, nazis, homophobes, etc... things might be different. Millions of people are openly celebrating his assassination. These are people teaching our children and young adults. These are people that are taking care of our sick. These are people cooking our food. This is the modern day leftist democratic party, so yes he's one of yours.

 

[Matt2496]

More unhinged leftists

 

[apevol]

"If Fuentes isn't one of yours what makes you think its ok to say Tyler is one of LGs? Or Luthers? Or Huffs?"

If he were, it would be a true statement. But I haven't attributed him to LG, Huff or Luther, I don't believe. See the reference to my chosen vocabulary below.

"You think they like people getting shot? You think they're all furries with pink hair?"

Again, that logic makes no sense to me. Please note the vocabulary I've purposefully used: "radicalized far left extremist".


I'll admit, I find this interaction fascinating. You said, "first" you needed to know if I was a radical far right white supremacist supporter. Did that mean that the second step was answering my post, or was the second step merely chastising me for asking?

for some reason i had you confused with involuntary this whole time, i apologize for wasting the previous 30 minutes of your life

 

[apevol]

But he is. If folks weren't trying their damnest to make it something other than it is but call it what it is, another deranged far left member of the LGBTQ+ community, the community the left has championed, it wouldn’t be an issue. Plus, if left's media hadn't hadn't pushed the DNC's propaganda of people on the right being racist, fascist, nazis, homophobes, etc... things might be different. Millions of people are openly celebrating his assassination. These are people teaching our children and young adults. These are people that are taking care of our sick. These are people cooking our food. This is the modern day leftist democratic party, so yes he's one of yours.

he doesn't belong to me, bucko

 

[Matt2496]

Lefties are still running with the false narrative.

 

[Orange_Crush]

I'm just hoping for the outcome that calms the most tensions and some people in here are wanting things to boil over. They want to have more reason to hate. Far right groyper would be a terrible outcome for them. They need it to be somehow related to trans and the left so that trans kids going to school tomorrow can get harassed and bullied even more than normal. They need it to be the left so they can shame 40m voters, as if they had something to do with this.

So, the situation here, as I see it is:

The preponderance of the evidence at the moment you posted this is that a radicalized far left extremist just had enough hate boil over that he murdered an innocent man in front of his wife and kids, but your primary concern is and has been that that connection not be made because of the evil right wing folks' hate.

You've spent years here demonizing Trump supporters in the apparent hope that it will be revealed to the world and its danger stamped out. But you perish the thought of radical left-wing violence being attributed because... the right are the evil ones.

That's tremendously helpful. Thank you for your contributions at this precarious time.

 

[InVOLuntary]

he doesn't belong to me, bucko

He's part of your community if your a liberal democrat. If your a member of a community where millions celebrate this, he's one of yours.

 

[apevol]

He's part of your community if your a liberal democrat. If your a member of a community where millions celebrate this, he's one of yours.

I'm not a member of the liberal Democrat community. You've unwittingly just damned yourself tho

 

[InVOLuntary]

I'm not a member of the liberal Democrat community. You've unwittingly just damned yourself tho

I said "if". How have I damned myself?

 

[OHvol40]

So is teaching and grooming children to believe that lifestyle is ok. Let them decide once they’re adults, not in elementary school.

I don’t groom my children to do anything except be decent, successful people… so I don’t know who you’re talking to.

Also, does this mean children should be kept out of church until they aren’t adults, so they aren’t groomed by the church?

 

[n_huffhines]

So, the situation here, as I see it is:

The preponderance of the evidence at the moment you posted this is that a radicalized far left extremist just had enough hate boil over that he murdered an innocent man in front of his wife and kids, but your primary concern is and has been that that connection not be made because of the evil right wing folks' hate.

You've spent years here demonizing Trump supporters in the apparent hope that it will be revealed to the world and its danger stamped out. But you perish the thought of radical left-wing violence being attributed because... the right are the evil ones.

That's tremendously helpful. Thank you for your contributions at this precarious time.

Wrong on all counts. This is ********. I'm not even left wing. I am a libertarian who "demonizes" both sides for advocating for state-sponsored political violence. I've been killing Biden and Kamala with criticisms all year, and they're not even in power right now.

What should my priority concern be after condemning the political violence? I'm just waiting for the truth and hoping tensions calm. Somehow you spun this into a negative, lol.

 

[Orange_Crush]

for some reason i had you confused with involuntary this whole time, i apologize for wasting the previous 30 minutes of your life

Again, I don't understand this post. I never said that it was a waste. To the contrary, I tried to extend the conversation by getting us back onto my original questions.

But that's OK. No worries. I have done the same per reply-confusion too many times to list. Thank you for your time.

 

[Matt2496]

It's really crazy to me how different America is now compared to even 20 years ago. If this had happened 20 years ago, we would all be united together in solidarity against political violence. Today, I see numerous posts by leftists celebrating, condoning, glorifying, and even calling for more violence against Conservatives/Right-wingers.

Everyone should be asking how we got to this point and what must be done to reverse this trend. Unfortunately, and I hope I'm wrong, I think the country is too far gone. No one in leadership wants to make the changes necessary to meaningfully fix the issues this country is facing. Why? They win votes off of this division. So don't expect any meaningful change.

 

[apevol]

Again, I don't understand this post. I never said that it was a waste. To the contrary, I tried to extend the conversation by getting us back onto my original questions.

But that's OK. No worries. I have done the same per reply-confusion too many times to list. Thank you for your time.

you were participating in a conversation that was only half about you so all my replies were erroneous

 

[apevol]

I said "if". How have I damned myself?

because as soon as a registered Republican commits some horrible act, per you, hes one of yours

 

[Rickyvol77]

It's really crazy to me how different America is now compared to even 20 years ago. If this had happened 20 years ago, we would all be united together in solidarity against political violence. Today, I see numerous posts by leftists celebrating, condoning, glorifying, and even calling for more violence against Conservatives/Right-wingers.

Everyone should be asking how we got to this point and what must be done to reverse this trend. Unfortunately, and I hope I'm wrong, I think the country is too far gone. No one in leadership wants to make the changes necessary to meaningfully fix the issues this country is facing. Why? They win votes off of this division. So don't expect any meaningful change.

Too many people have been indoctrinated into believing the "other" political side is evil, but it's been brewing in politics since the early 1990s...

You believe in welfare reform? or no welfare at all? You are evil and want poor people to die and grandma to eat cat food
You are against affirmative action? or don't believe are hunting and executing innocent unarmed black people? you are clearly racist and want slavery back
You don't agree with late term abortion? clearly you hate women and want them chained in the kitchen to die

On top of that, the Occupy Wall Street movement that started in Seattle as a fringe violent communist group in 1999 became radicalized and morphed into a dangerous "counter culture" American terror network, and of that movement spawned the "Antifa/BLM/Trans Rights/Free Palestine/Kill Billionaires" BS that excuses violence, harassment and revolution as part of their justification because everyone is a racist, homophobic, islamophobic, sexist Nazi who deserves what they get

 

[whodeycin85]

because as soon as a registered Republican commits some horrible act, per you, hes one of yours

Yup and GOP will come out and condemn him not celebrate

 

[InVOLuntary]

because as soon as a registered Republican commits some horrible act, per you, hes one of yours

If a republican does something like that and millions of Republicans celebrate it, I will denounce it just like I have here. I support anyone that celebrates something like that to lose their jobs, ostracized by the masses. I'm not a republican by the way.

 

[Majors]

It's really crazy to me how different America is now compared to even 20 years ago. If this had happened 20 years ago, we would all be united together in solidarity against political violence. Today, I see numerous posts by leftists celebrating, condoning, glorifying, and even calling for more violence against Conservatives/Right-wingers.

Everyone should be asking how we got to this point and what must be done to reverse this trend. Unfortunately, and I hope I'm wrong, I think the country is too far gone. No one in leadership wants to make the changes necessary to meaningfully fix the issues this country is facing. Why? They win votes off of this division. So don't expect any meaningful change.

That’s what happens when MSM tells opinions/lies and doesn’t report facts. When liberal leadership allows their party continue to demonize half of America with terms like “deplorable”, Nazi, fascist, racist. Advocate for criminals/illegals over Americans.

 

[Majors]

If a republican does something like that and millions of Republicans celebrate it, I will denounce it just like I have here. I support anyone that celebrates something like that to lose their jobs, ostracized by the masses. I'm not a republican by the way.

Majority of the Republicans here are advocating for the release of the Epstein files as an example. It’s about the girls, not the party or one individual.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Wrong on all counts. This is ********. I'm not even left wing. I am a libertarian who "demonizes" both sides for advocating for state-sponsored political violence. I've been killing Biden and Kamala with criticisms all year, and they're not even in power right now.

What should my priority concern be after condemning the political violence?

Well, obviously it should be choosing to blame the right, as your actions and the post that I quoted confirmed.

Again... You've been here attributing x, y and z to the Magas for years. It seems to have been a worthy endeavor in your mind to make the world a better and safer place. I find it interesting that your last post veered away from correct attribution for the better of the world, and to some pragmatic decision based on the evils of the right--again, in the context of someone being murdered in front of their wife and kids because of the murderous hate in the left fringe.

It seems to me that if one is dangerous enough to be stamped out by stating the truth, then the other would be dangerous enough to be stamped out by stating the truth. But obviously your mileage may vary.


Here's an interesting thought. You replied to this post. You obviously have taken me off of ignore. Is it more interesting to consider the post you replied to, or the ones you haven't? Since you're reading my posts, let's try this again.

Can you please give the best evidence provided that the shooter was a groyper? I think that would greatly further this part of the conversation. Otherwise, you are likely participating in a huge gaslighting, and I am sure you wouldn't want to do that.

 

[n_huffhines]

It's really crazy to me how different America is now compared to even 20 years ago. If this had happened 20 years ago, we would all be united together in solidarity against political violence. Today, I see numerous posts by leftists celebrating, condoning, glorifying, and even calling for more violence against Conservatives/Right-wingers.

Everyone should be asking how we got to this point and what must be done to reverse this trend. Unfortunately, and I hope I'm wrong, I think the country is too far gone. No one in leadership wants to make the changes necessary to meaningfully fix the issues this country is facing. Why? They win votes off of this division. So don't expect any meaningful change.

Those people didn't have a voice 20 years ago. The internet has made you aware of them.