Charlie Kirk Shot and killed

we live in a reality right now where 1 person can be successfully painted as both a right wing AND left wing extremist, and years later no consensus ever found
Correct. Because as the political parties have morphed into organizations that no longer offer reasons to garner support, their only recourse is they are forced to offer a reason to not support the other side. Bad actors are useful as 'guilt by association' tools.
The collective sigh of relief felt by the partisan party plebs in the ranks has nothing to do with understanding and preventing future events. The relief is that their sad doesn't look as bad by comparison.
 
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Correct. Because as the political parties have morphed into organizations that no longer offer reasons to gain support, their only recourse is they are forced to offer a reason to not support the other side. Bad actors are useful as 'guilt by association' tools.
The collective sigh of relief felt by the partisan party plebs in the ranks has nothing to do with understanding and preventing future events. The relief is that their sad doesn't look as bad by comparison.
its just a way for us to not have to confront ourselves
 
I'm not. I know that. Doesn't change the fact that it is a radical stance.
Oh I have no doubt that you think it’s radical. It’s interesting to me that God created the institution of marriage and yet He’s radical according to you when defining it. That’s some hubris you’ve got.
 
So you don't know, neither do evolutionists. They have no idea..
Doesn't prove God. Nor does evolution necessarily negate the existence of God. The DNA links between all living things and the incremental evolution that can be observed through experimentation are pretty convincing to me and and a majority of people that evolution is the most sound theory available

So even though there remain unknowns in the world, that doesn't convince me there must be a God. And therefore I dont grant the Bible the distinction of being a work of nonfiction. So what the Bible says is an abomination to God has zero sway over me
 
Yeah thats called "looking on the bright side". I don't believe in killing babies in the womb...but if these people are celebrating the murder of an innocent man AND willing to kill an innocent child (their child) growing inside their own body then I guess the bright side is that baby didnt have to be raised by someone who clearly places no value on human life. I don't think "applauds murder" and "kills unborn babies" are desirable traits in a parent. Do you? Are those the traits you want in a woman raising YOUR kids? If so then cool...we just disagree about that.

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The one thing i always find amazing about people who are pro-abortion...every single one of you realize that if YOUR parents felt the same way that YOU would not exist?? If your own parents didn't value a human life more than you do, then you wouldnt be here to discuss this at all. It’s funny that when abortion time comes, Daddy and Baby don't get a vote. Just the Mom. You may not even be for abortion. I have np idea and thats your choice. I just think thats kinda strange.
if you truly believe abortion is murder then there is no bright side to it

Ya I’m not pro abortion
 
Doesn't prove God. Nor does evolution necessarily negate the existence of God. The DNA links between all living things and the incremental evolution that can be observed through experimentation are pretty convincing to me and and a majority of people that evolution is the most sound theory available

So even though there remain unknowns in the world, that doesn't convince me there must be a God. And therefore I dont grant the Bible the distinction of being a work of nonfiction. So what the Bible says is an abomination to God has zero sway over me
I'm in line with you, but that doesn't make kirk evil for saying homosexuality is an abomination to god. Everyone believes someone particpates in some sort of abomination and that doesn't mean they think that person should be stoned

There are books on apologetics enough to fill Warehouses and I tend to figure thats where I'd go to get to the bottom of what any particular religion really is, down to the minute details of why modern christians generally don't actually think we should be throwing rocks at the more flamboyant among us until they die
 
What an indictment on the American populace that that kind of rhetoric is needed just to get people out of bed to go vote once every 1,460 days. That’s on both sides.

Yup. People who run and get elected based on division should not be heard to complain when that division has a cost.
 
What an indictment on the American populace that that kind of rhetoric is needed just to get people out of bed to go vote once every 1,460 days. That’s on both sides.
Or like most political grandstanding eventually does, we've used the word to describe the entire spectrum of political views that we disagree with, to the point that the word or accusation carries no real meaning with most people anymore, much less be the cause for anyone to murder another.
 
Yup. People who run and get elected based on division should not be heard to complain when that division has a cost.
Let me be clear, I’m not ready to put blood on the hands of politicians for speech that doesn’t clearly and overtly call for violence even if their words are the catalyst a lunatic needs to be pushed over the edge. However, I think the mental health epidemic in the country will play a huge role in how free our speech stays and our politicians certainly need to set a better example.
 
Or like most political grandstanding eventually does, we've used the word to describe the entire spectrum of political views that we disagree with, to the point that the word or accusation carries no real meaning with most people anymore, much less be the cause for anyone to murder another.
Well said.
 
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