Charlie Kirk Shot and killed

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CubsFanTN said:
Would you admit that every president of the last 25 years has been equally ineffectual at preventing school shootings?
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Sure, every single one, but the problem is at a fever-pitch now more than ever, and still heads are in the sand. I’ll do you one better, every legislature of the last 25 years has been equally as inept. With kids in grade school, many of us can’t afford to have our heads in the sand… but elected officials continue to be ineffective and inept.
 
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volinbham said:
okay I'll try to walk through this. you posted something from David Shuster that claimed the cops and interviews with the family that the shooter was far right of Kirk. notice he mentions no source for this; provides no link and there is no reporting out there apart from him that this is true.

your Groyper theory is grounded in this

"A Facebook photo in which Robinson appears to reference a Groyper meme has led to early speculation that Kirk’s killing may have been an outgrowth of these intra-far-right skirmishes. "

Even the article you posted says this is inconclusive.

meanwhile reporting has come out that people that knew him said he had shifted left and became increasingly political (to the left) - I posted an article from the Guardian (hardly a right wing rag) with such information.

you are being duped.
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He's not being duped. He wants to believe it.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
So you believe he was raised conservative country boy, his entire family was Republicans, he goes to college (at one of the most conservative schools in one of the most conservative states in the country) for 1 semester, less than 6 months, and comes out radical left? That's more likely than becoming more radical right? I mean I get you really want it to be true, but the odds don't look great.

Either way, me and you are going my side vs your side is what caused all this ****. I hate politics. I hate its become this WWE reality BS I want my wrestler and faction to win at all costs. I wish we could all just be Americans with minor disagreements again.

We're all Americans, we all love the Vols, I would have a beer with any one y'all irl because of those 2 things.
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per the article I posted earlier his transformation to the left began when he was sophomore in HS.

FTR I haven't said the left caused this or that the problem is only on the left. I've tried to stick to the facts on this particular case and in this case the signs point to he moved to the anti-fascist mentality.

I'd love to have that beer
 
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Volanta said:
What action would you like to see? There’s a school shooting every week in this country. Do we even love our children?
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How do you solve any problem? Create a task force. This one should probably consist of psych professionals, law enforcement, educators, parents, lawyers, etc… investigate, pinpoint root causes (using information instead of emotion), collaborate, debate, and propose changes. Institute said changes, then reassess and start the process over until tangible change is achieved.

Yet, nothing continues to be the course of action. Just acceptance. I can’t accept innocent children dying at schools at this rate, for this reason. This just can’t be our status quo.
 
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McDad said:
Any thoughts on the impact of corporatism setting national policies and goods / services in regions coming from national companies?

I think those economic factors would have hastened the dynamic.
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Great point and I agree. That might have been a standard much sooner had blacks been given equal rights sooner. Like turn of the century sooner.
 
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OHvol40 said:
Sure, every single one, but the problem is at a fever-pitch now more than ever, and still heads are in the sand. I’ll do you one better, every legislature of the last 25 years has been equally as inept. With kids in grade school, many of us can’t afford to have our heads in the sand… but elected officials continue to be ineffective and inept.
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is it - I haven't looked at the data.

probably better for another thread but what is your legislative solution or other solution
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
So you believe he was raised conservative country boy, his entire family was Republicans, he goes to college (at one of the most conservative schools in one of the most conservative states in the country) for 1 semester, less than 6 months, and comes out radical left? That's more likely than becoming more radical right? I mean I get you really want it to be true, but the odds don't look great.

Either way, me and you are going my side vs your side is what caused all this ****. I hate politics. I hate its become this WWE reality BS I want my wrestler and faction to win at all costs. I wish we could all just be Americans with minor disagreements again.

We're all Americans, we all love the Vols, I would have a beer with any one y'all irl because of those 2 things.
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We are all Americans and VOLS and there is nobody here who I wouldnt have a meal or beverage with. That is very true and important. I have no hard feelings towards anyone who posts here and genuinely wish success and happiness for all you guys. Hate is a poison that will eat a man up from the inside...it can make you physically and spiritually sick and it can and will ruin your life. Hate steals peoples joy and leaves them bitter and alone. I don't hate anyone here including you of course, and if I get a little riled up from time to time I apologize to anyone here if I have hurt their feelings. Sincerely. God bless and GO VOLS
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
Action(s) are always slow go .... you should know that by now.
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Which is exactly why we need to start electing people (on both sides of the aisle) that represent every-day Americans. Working class people that are taking turns doing public service instead of career politicians backed and corrupted by billionaires (or billionaires themselves). Action to protect American children should not be slow, or partisan.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
So you believe he was raised conservative country boy, his entire family was Republicans, he goes to college (at one of the most conservative schools in one of the most conservative states in the country) for 1 semester, less than 6 months, and comes out radical left? That's more likely than becoming more radical right? I mean I get you really want it to be true, but the odds don't look great.

Either way, me and you are going my side vs your side is what caused all this ****. I hate politics. I hate its become this WWE reality BS I want my wrestler and faction to win at all costs. I wish we could all just be Americans with minor disagreements again.

We're all Americans, we all love the Vols, I would have a beer with any one y'all irl because of those 2 things.
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I'd have a beer with you, but if it turns into 50, thats on you
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
We are all Americans and VOLS and there is nobody here who I wouldnt have a meal or beverage with. That is very true and important. I have no hard feelings towards anyone who posts here and genuinely wish success and happiness for all you guys. Hate is a poison that will eat a man up from the inside...it can make you physically and spiritually sick and it can and will ruin your life. Hate steals peoples joy and leaves them bitter and alone. I don't hate anyone here including you of course, and if I get a little riled up from time to time I apologize to anyone here if I have hurt their feelings. Sincerely. God bless and GO VOLS
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Amen let's go beat them Dawgs
 
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McDad said:
Any thoughts on the impact of corporatism setting national policies and goods / services in regions coming from national companies?

I think those economic factors would have hastened the dynamic.
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Check this out McDad. Corporate hijacking of an entire industry started here in NC...a coward went and changed the laws and then left office and used those laws to sell out an entire US industry to the Chinese. 28,000 farmers out of business in NC first...then 100,000 nationwide. Its a short 3min video

 
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OHvol40 said:
How do you solve any problem? Create a task force. This one should probably consist of psych professionals, law enforcement, educators, parents, lawyers, etc… investigate, pinpoint root causes (using information instead of emotion), collaborate, debate, and propose changes. Institute said changes, then reassess and start the process over until tangible change is achieved.

Yet, nothing continues to be the course of action. Just acceptance. I can’t accept innocent children dying at schools at this rate, for this reason. This just can’t be our status quo.
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Agreed.

US Schools should be the last place psychotics go looking for easy targets, not the first place.

Yet we don’t do anything to make that so.
 
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McDad said:
Any thoughts on the impact of corporatism setting national policies and goods / services in regions coming from national companies?

I think those economic factors would have hastened the dynamic.
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The problem is that politicians need to set laws and not exempt corporations the law should apply to everyone or none
 
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