Charlie Kirk Shot and killed

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#3,627
McDad said:
That's interesting, all three of mine prefer eating at home as well.
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That's more her family than us. But growing up we rarely ate out. 5 people runs the bil up in a hurry. Yes, I drop a 20x80 garden every year and put up what I can, but my wife and i are probably more 50/50. I do the majority of the cooking as well. Childhood thing. Growing up we had gardens. Dad was in Ag. Mom was stay at home. Summer evenings was snapping beans and shucking corn and getting veggies ready for her to can or pickle. Pickling crocks lined the dining room walls. cleaned kitchen. Folded and washed clothes. Ironed clothes. Mowed. Weeded. Had to learn to cook on a step stool so I could reach the stove cause mom had sunday evenings off and ceral got old quick. Homemade yeast rolls. WE had a good life. 50K didn't go far even in the 70's and 80's for 5 people. The only reprive was if we had a baseball game, then we'd do chores when we got home. Had to push mower. Rode bikes 4 miles to town to get candy at Ben Franklin. Didn't have to worry about getting murdered. Be home by dark or catch the wrath of a parent in a car looking for you. We had plenty of time to do alot cause we only had three clear channels and one fuzzy one. Never saw a clear Braves game until I was in HS and we got our first cable box. And that was only maybe 15 channels. And you still didn't get to see that till tudies and chores were done. Had to lay in floor to watch TV so you could flip the dial during commercials. In winter we chopped wood to make up for not having grass to mow or garden to tend. If storm knocked power out, we cooked at the fireplace. Helped dad re-roof house. Helped rebuild engines and change oil. Dad wasn't a mechanic, but if he could figure out to do something we didn't pay for it. Probably where my critical thinking comes from. It was trained. More meories than my 60 yo mind can comprehend. When I left for college, there was nothing I couldn't for myself. Nothing. I still break out my own wrenches and i'm not a mechanic either, but I look at, pull things off in order, store them in order, and put them back in reverse order. And I have a mechanic BIL I can call. That helps. It's just a lifestyle and rearing. My kid went through alot of hte same though not as stringent. He only got the half monty. But, enough. He can cook for himself quite well. And he can wash his clothes and stuff. Outside his pepper plants though, he's a tough sell on the hard labor yard chores.
 
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StarRaider said:
RoofKorean7? the scope placement on a kicking 30-06 rifle would have knocked the snot out of the pos assassin when the rifle was fired

if MajToure999: He does not find it plausible that the pos assassin was able to do all of that.
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Looking again closely at the picture I think the scope doesn't appear mounted.
 
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evillawyer said:
But keep on going all-in on this man. Has already moved past Charlie and is focused on his Louis XIV-esque remake of the White House. If Charlie meant nothing to him, do you think you mean anything to him?

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I've never met two people that process the same. My two siblings and I handled both my mom and dad in 3 very different ways. How people handle losses get very wide passes with me.

I used to associate you with LG. The more time passes the more I give LG a break. I've decided you an LeAnn are twins though.
 
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McDad said:
Must've have been misery for him.

Bet he regrets the stand he took.

Think he will regret it?
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It was certainly a Shining moment to mea culpa like that.

It was a huge burden for him to Carrie.

But he was certainly a Running Man to correct his mistake.

The Insomnia and Desperation must have kept him up on the Night Shift.

Okay, I'm done...
 
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lawgator1 said:
White, black, GOP, Dem .... its more a generational issue to me than anything else. Young people now face such uncertain futures. The paths we all had just aren't as realistic as they were just 20 years ago. I feel for the 18 to 30 year olds now. No solid, known, way to have a life and succeed.
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Sure, there’s a way but it actually takes effort and perseverance, 2 things most folks lack these days.
 
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MontyPython said:
Why you try so hard to sanitize Kirk's hatred and venom towards gay people is curious, indeed. His legacy is one of destruction, not construction... much like the illustrious Orange Menace. Both will fall down on the wrong side of history.
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Stop with the lies. You are continually embarrassing yourself.
 
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Grand Vol said:
It was certainly a Shining moment to mea culpa like that.

It was a huge burden for him to Carrie.

But he was certainly a Running Man to correct his mistake.

The Insomnia and Desperation must have kept him up on the Night Shift.

Okay, I'm done...
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This is The Dark Half of your posting style we have been waiting for.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Per what I've read I'd say the most extreme was that he advocated for eliminate of separation of church and state.
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www.facebook.com

3.2K views · 121 reactions | The topic of 'separation of church and state' has been a heated debate in both church and non-church circles for some time. 🔥 Listen as Charlie Kirk shares his perspective on the matter! 👂 #SeparationOfChurchAndState #c

The topic of 'separation of church and state' has been a heated debate in both church and non-church circles for some time. 🔥 Listen as Charlie Kirk shares his perspective on the matter! 👂...
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GVF said:
That's more her family than us. But growing up we rarely ate out. 5 people runs the bil up in a hurry. Yes, I drop a 20x80 garden every year and put up what I can, but my wife and i are probably more 50/50. I do the majority of the cooking as well. Childhood thing. Growing up we had gardens. Dad was in Ag. Mom was stay at home. Summer evenings was snapping beans and shucking corn and getting veggies ready for her to can or pickle. Pickling crocks lined the dining room walls. cleaned kitchen. Folded and washed clothes. Ironed clothes. Mowed. Weeded. Had to learn to cook on a step stool so I could reach the stove cause mom had sunday evenings off and ceral got old quick. Homemade yeast rolls. WE had a good life. 50K didn't go far even in the 70's and 80's for 5 people. The only reprive was if we had a baseball game, then we'd do chores when we got home. Had to push mower. Rode bikes 4 miles to town to get candy at Ben Franklin. Didn't have to worry about getting murdered. Be home by dark or catch the wrath of a parent in a car looking for you. We had plenty of time to do alot cause we only had three clear channels and one fuzzy one. Never saw a clear Braves game until I was in HS and we got our first cable box. And that was only maybe 15 channels. And you still didn't get to see that till tudies and chores were done. Had to lay in floor to watch TV so you could flip the dial during commercials. In winter we chopped wood to make up for not having grass to mow or garden to tend. If storm knocked power out, we cooked at the fireplace. Helped dad re-roof house. Helped rebuild engines and change oil. Dad wasn't a mechanic, but if he could figure out to do something we didn't pay for it. Probably where my critical thinking comes from. It was trained. More meories than my 60 yo mind can comprehend. When I left for college, there was nothing I couldn't for myself. Nothing. I still break out my own wrenches and i'm not a mechanic either, but I look at, pull things off in order, store them in order, and put them back in reverse order. And I have a mechanic BIL I can call. That helps. It's just a lifestyle and rearing. My kid went through alot of hte same though not as stringent. He only got the half monty. But, enough. He can cook for himself quite well. And he can wash his clothes and stuff. Outside his pepper plants though, he's a tough sell on the hard labor yard chores.
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I try to put eating out in perspective with my kids. If five of us went to mcdonald's, we could take that money and buy five large steaks for about the same price.
 
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MontyPython said:
Well if you think gay people should NOT be stoned to death, then yes, Kirk held extremist views.

Charlie Kirk, the founder of Turning Point USA, made a controversial statement in June 2024 during a discussion on his podcast or live event, where he referenced a Bible verse (Leviticus 20:13) to argue against LGBTQ+ acceptance. While criticizing a YouTuber for promoting "love your neighbor" in the context of Pride Month, Kirk quoted the verse and described it as "God's perfect law when it comes to sexual matters," effectively endorsing the biblical prescription of stoning for homosexual acts.

The approximate quote, as captured in video clips and widely reported, is: **"The Bible says if a man lays with a man, they should be stoned to death... That's God's perfect law."**

### Context and Explanation
- This occurred amid Kirk's broader critique of LGBTQ+ visibility, where he likened being gay to an "error" comparable to addiction, urging people to "get free from that."
- The statement drew immediate backlash for promoting violence, though Kirk framed it as a defense of biblical literalism rather than a direct call to action in modern society.
- Video evidence of the exchange has circulated widely on platforms like X (formerly Twitter) and YouTube, showing Kirk reading the verse aloud and affirming its moral authority.
- Posthumously, following Kirk's assassination on September 10, 2025, at Utah Valley University, this quote has been frequently cited in discussions of his legacy and the hypocrisy in mourning him while ignoring his anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric.
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What's ironic to me, yoyr sude will take a statement like this, where he was discussing it with someone, not doing it, and nitpick it. Yet, you're open arms for a certain religion that actively kills gays, and have no issues with those beliefs in our government. Everyy time you guys shout free Palestine, you're advocating for murdering gays, but that's not extreme? But a man talking old testament theology is? Make it make sense.
 
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MontyPython said:
Well if you think gay people should NOT be stoned to death, then yes, Kirk held extremist views.

Charlie Kirk, the founder of Turning Point USA, made a controversial statement in June 2024 during a discussion on his podcast or live event, where he referenced a Bible verse (Leviticus 20:13) to argue against LGBTQ+ acceptance. While criticizing a YouTuber for promoting "love your neighbor" in the context of Pride Month, Kirk quoted the verse and described it as "God's perfect law when it comes to sexual matters," effectively endorsing the biblical prescription of stoning for homosexual acts.

The approximate quote, as captured in video clips and widely reported, is: **"The Bible says if a man lays with a man, they should be stoned to death... That's God's perfect law."**

### Context and Explanation
- This occurred amid Kirk's broader critique of LGBTQ+ visibility, where he likened being gay to an "error" comparable to addiction, urging people to "get free from that."
- The statement drew immediate backlash for promoting violence, though Kirk framed it as a defense of biblical literalism rather than a direct call to action in modern society.
- Video evidence of the exchange has circulated widely on platforms like X (formerly Twitter) and YouTube, showing Kirk reading the verse aloud and affirming its moral authority.
- Posthumously, following Kirk's assassination on September 10, 2025, at Utah Valley University, this quote has been frequently cited in discussions of his legacy and the hypocrisy in mourning him while ignoring his anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric.
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MOOOOONEY said:
www.facebook.com

3.2K views · 121 reactions | The topic of 'separation of church and state' has been a heated debate in both church and non-church circles for some time. 🔥 Listen as Charlie Kirk shares his perspective on the matter! 👂 #SeparationOfChurchAndState #c

The topic of 'separation of church and state' has been a heated debate in both church and non-church circles for some time. 🔥 Listen as Charlie Kirk shares his perspective on the matter! 👂...
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Sounds like LG whiffed on that try.
 
#3,650
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MontyPython said:
Why you try so hard to sanitize Kirk's hatred and venom towards gay people is curious, indeed. His legacy is one of destruction, not construction... much like the illustrious Orange Menace. Both will fall down on the wrong side of history.
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Then you should listen to Dave Rubin, a gay man that was close friends with CK, had dinner at his house many times, talked to him all the time and considered Charlie one of his closest friends. He was aware that Charlie didn’t agree with it, but stated Charlie in no way hated gays and never hated anyone. This man knew him very well, you didn’t. You’ve clearly been listening to cherry picked sound bites or things taken out of context. You should go back and watch the entirety of his shows and events he hosted.
 
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