Charlie Kirk Shot and killed

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evillawyer said:
Just speculating based on the data points available. So far we know he's white from Utah son of law enforcement and still close to his pastor in Utah and wore a Trump costume and is good with guns. Those are your data points. You got a put money down. Where are you putting that money down?
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Why does money need to be put down? An innocent person lost his life. Who gives a flying phk if he came from a conservative or liberal household?
 
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evillawyer said:
Just speculating based on the data points available. So far we know he's white from Utah son of law enforcement and still close to his pastor in Utah and wore a Trump costume and is good with guns. Those are your data points. You got a put money down. Where are you putting that money down?
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How much did you speculate when data started coming in the night of the election? If I remember correctly, you said you were looking forward to the evening.

Why did you disappear?
 
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MontyPython said:
Watch the video, bro. Kirk describes stoning gay people to death as "God's perfect law when it comes to sexual matters".

Does the bible advocate stoning gay people to death?
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And if you understand Christianity, you know that all of us break God‘s Perfect Law daily and that’s why we needed a Savior and forgiveness.
Christ abolished the penalties that we deserved.
The Apostle Paul tells us that the Law as given as a schoolmaster to show us our sinfulness. The Law shows that God takes all sin seriously. And Christ came to fulfill that law by taking on the Death it demanded in our place. God‘s perfect law is intact and fulfilled. All we have to do is accept the gift
 
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RockyTop411 said:
How much did you speculate when data started coming in the night of the election? If I remember correctly, you said you were looking forward to the evening.

Why did you disappear?
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Framing it that way so that regardless of what happened, it is conservatism's "fault."
 
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evillawyer said:
In what context is this statement good?

“We have to be brave in life, in all fairness, we have a life. I probably shouldn’t be out here talking to you in all fairness but we will be brave. And we have a great country. We have radical left lunatics out there and we just have to beat the hell out of them.”
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Beat them at the polls.... i don't think your side yes YOUR side can say a damn thing about any type of moral high ground right now. Would you like for me to post countless videos of Schumer, Pelosi, Biden, Obama, Cortez, etc. saying worse things or nah?
 
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mrMet said:
Oh such a bigot

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This is the reality

The critical social justice movement (technical term for wokeness) cannot have legs unless they subvert reality.

Their entire a priori axiom falls apart the moment they don't believe Charlie Kirk was a national socialist racist xenophobe, or whatever boogeyman term they use to justify their radical nonsense.

They want revolution and they feel justified in doing whatever it takes to get to their silly idea of utopia.

Even if they see that he's being nice hear, it doesn't matter he spreads "fascist" ideals and he must be stopped, you cannot debate him because they would give credence to his cause, so killing is the only option.

These fragile intellectual cowards would gladly push us all into oblivion for.....some utopia they can't even define. Stupid mfers that got radicalized from their first political science class, or meme they saw in their teens, because it makes them think they're special.
 
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mrMet said:
Oh such a bigot

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His views on gay people and transgender people were widely known.



Attempting posthumous sanitization of his views doesn't really work given the sheer number of videos of him expressing them.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Hate posting this, from grok before his SM was locked.

Tyler Robinson, the 22-year-old suspect identified in the alleged assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk on September 11, 2025, in Utah, appeared to favor the left-wing or progressive side politically. Based on reports from his now-locked social media profiles and online activity, Robinson expressed socialist views, including anti-capitalist sentiments, and took strong pro-Palestinian stances, such as calling for the destruction of Israel and supporting Palestinian causes. These positions align with far-left ideologies, including anti-Israel activism often associated with progressive or socialist movements. He was also described in online discussions as a "socialist" and held hateful views toward conservative figures and policies, consistent with opposition to right-wing conservatism like Kirk's. No evidence suggests right-wing leanings; his motivations reportedly stemmed from ideological opposition to Kirk's prominence in conservative circles.
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Grok is useless in this instance as it will pull from random people's twitter feeds which are untrustworthy. Wait for actual reporting and then compare multiple sources over a period of time to arrive at a reasonable conclusion. We know almost nothing at this point.
 
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05_never_again said:
It could be a kid that was "inside the house" and rebelled. See the Covenant School shooter.
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And I am guessing that we will find that somewhere along the way, some teacher or professor got inside his head.
But that is just speculation.
Interesting to find out what was on his phone in terms of friends and connections
 
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KB5252 said:
I believe he felt strongly that the AA communities biggest problems are self inflicted. For example single parent households, black on black violence rate, violence rate in general. I believe when debating and parsing out the details what is using honesty from his point of view sounds like bigotry.

He was very different from Rush IMO. From what I've seen of Charlie (not a whole lot, but I've been watching more if his stuff the past two days), he was cordial and engaging with those who disagreed with him if they were civil. He was more confrontational with those who weren't. Rush was much more of an ass imo.

If you have the time could you post a video you feel he was bigoted on? I'm genuinely curious to see that side of him.
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There’s not one. He’s bold face lying
 
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BeardedVol said:
His views on gay people and transgender people were widely known.



Attempting to posthumous sanitization of his views doesn't really work given the sheer number of videos of him expressing them.
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But that's his faith, that's his views, he can say whatever the hell he wants.

The left is so quick to criticize someone like this but yet should a follower of Islam do it.... meh.. it's their culture, it's their religion.
 
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evillawyer said:
Just speculating based on the data points available. So far we know he's white from Utah son of law enforcement and still close to his pastor in Utah and wore a Trump costume and is good with guns. Those are your data points. You got a put money down. Where are you putting that money down?
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You spelled riding Trump like a donkey costume wrong.

I can't tell whether you're desperate or just thirsty.
 
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BeardedVol said:
His views on gay people and transgender people were widely known.



Attempting to posthumous sanitization of his views doesn't really work given the sheer number of videos of him expressing them.
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What part of „love the sinner but hate the sin“ escapes you?
Every time I even knowing tell a „white lie“ it is in a sense openly defying God. Thankfully He continues to love me, just like He loves transgenders. But that doesn’t mean He wants us to continue sinning.
 
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Ashevolle said:
Grok is useless in this instance as it will pull from random people's twitter feeds which are untrustworthy. Wait for actual reporting and then compare multiple sources over a period of time to arrive at a reasonable conclusion. We know almost nothing at this point.
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Course it is... For forming opinions. But gather information... It can point to specific post that are now deleted done his account is deleted..I can post that if you like... Sorry of hurts your narrative
 
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05_never_again said:
No it isn't. If beyond any doubt was the burden of proof, then it would be phrased that way. People are convicted based on circumstantial evidence all the time that is beyond reasonable doubts, but not any doubt (no DNA or direct evidence).

Do you think there's any chance that Dylann Roof didn't commit the Charleston church shooting?
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It's effectively the same. What is an unreasonable doubt?
 
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Ashevolle said:
Grok is useless in this instance as it will pull from random people's twitter feeds which are untrustworthy. Wait for actual reporting and then compare multiple sources over a period of time to arrive at a reasonable conclusion. We know almost nothing at this point.
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That's a fair assessment.
 
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BeardedVol said:
His views on gay people and transgender people were widely known.



Attempting to posthumous sanitization of his views doesn't really work given the sheer number of videos of him expressing them.
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Isn't it odd how out of all the media coverage this is getting, I have not seen any coverage include any clips of him stating his views.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
What part of „love the sinner but hate the sin“ escapes you?
Every time I even knowing tell a „white lie“ it is in a sense openly defying God. Thankfully He continues to love me, just like He loves transgenders. But that doesn’t mean He wants us to continue sinning.
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Probably the part where he abandoned the "love" and starts referring to people as "abominations".
 
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