Charlie Kirk Shot and killed

[82_VOL_83]

That’s a shot regularly taken by good deer hunters.
Or someone with a lot of experience.
So ya, scary stuff

Kirk would routinely stand stock still also.

 

[CAVPUT]

Gotta get rid of the guns first. Then when nothing changes in violence then you go after the knives.
Check England as your paradigm of hope

True, but also consider Weimar Republic in the 20s and Hitler's gun control act of 1938. Both show what can come from a disarmed populace. Also of note are some similarities between our own gun control act of 1968 and that of Hitler's 1938 legislation. People are fallen and sinful by nature. If they want to kill someone, they will find a tool/way to do it. Anything can be misused. Laws will not stop evil. Right now our laws aren't even being enforced in many instances. Having said all that, I most certainly do not trust our or any other government. You give anyone complete control and it leads to dictators/despots. The old saying... power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely is very true. It's simply our fallen, human nature coming to the surface. With what we've seen of our elected and judicial officials, who in their right mind would trust any of them to have OUR best intentions at heart and give up our means of self defense? Insanity.

 

[hog88]

No need for that crap.

 

[EastTNVol6240]

Not what I said at all. That is your inference

That you alluded to. People are capable of using context and putting things together without you spelling it out. Then your able to “hide” behind it, or you think, just because you didn’t spell it out.

 

[Carp]

Kirk's murder was horrible. However the death of any other murder victim is just as grievous to me no more no less.

Sure.

But the ramifications from this death have far greater social and political implications than 99% of other murders.

 

[Grand Vol]

Not much of a sample size of "taking the high road" from either side to draw from the past few years but sure.

It's getting worse, I'll agree.

Doesn't change the fact when you demonize and marginalize a political opponent like the conservative movement has been, it leads to more contempt and acts like this.

People have a breaking point.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

No need for that crap.

Oven's just starting to preheat.

 

[Majors]

Lol, @swampfoxfan this is at the 1970s anymore, your party has devolved way beyond that

The 60+ year old democrats have a hard time understanding this. The Jimmy Carter dem doesn’t have a home anymore if that’s what they believe.

 

[dalton_vol]

So, last year or so, I discussed why I don't vote and haven't for 30+ years. 1. I believed the uniparty was setup to control the outcome 2. mental illness has not only been allowed to happen but promoted

They are not left, they are clearly at the mental illness stage or worse. Unbridled insanity to me is pure Evil, which is why her self described handle is right on the mark.

I'll look at it from a spiritual aspect. The left has rejected God so much, God is turning them over to satan. I know the right isn't much different and they are years behind the left, but at this point the left is the party of murder and immorality way much more than the right. In terms of just political parties and Washington, yes, they are essentially the same but in terms of regular day Americans, the American left is years ahead of the right in terms of evil

 

[Sea Ray]

The hate is predominantly on the left. Why is that? Why is there no conservative movement to kill Steven Colbert (a prominent left wing voice)? Because conservatives are fine having a debate. Liberals have to resort to killing in order to silence someone. Conservatives say to Biden supporters "we think you're misguided and disagree with you politically" but they don't take it personal. Liberals say to MAGA folks "you're a bad human being". That's the difference

 

[dalton_vol]

Not much of a sample size of "taking the high road" from either side to draw from the past few years but sure.

You leftists have been on the low road for about the past 10 years.

 

[85SugarVol]

trump was the proverbial stepping across the line in the sand.......and I think everyone knew that, which makes it worse.

He never ascends without the environment created by his predecessor.

 

[NorthDallas40]

That you alluded to. People are capable of using context and putting things together without you spelling it out. Then your able to “hide” behind it, or you think, just because you didn’t spell it out.

I did no such thing. Again it’s your own inference. He was polarizing. If you disagree then we disagree. I made no connection to his Christian beliefs or core family beliefs at all. In fact I agree with those beliefs you got on your soap box on. That is all your inference and you can GTFO with “alluded to”. And I’m not hiding behind anything.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

The hate is predominantly on the left. Why is that? Why is there no conservative movement to kill Steven Colbert (a prominent left wing voice)? Because conservatives are fine having a debate. Liberals have to resort to killing in order to silence someone. Conservatives say to Biden supporters "we think you're misguided and disagree with you politically" but they don't take it personal. Liberals say to MAGA folks "you're a bad human being". That's the difference

You're delusional if you think politics hasn't become deeply personal for, quite literally, everyone. It's not even remotely confined to one side.

 

[85SugarVol]

You seem to be forgetting Chuck Schumer telling Justice Kavenaugh and Gorsuch at a rally “pay the price”.

A few days later a gunman was arrested at Kavenaughs house to kill him.

sToChAsTiC tErRoRiSm!!!

 

[dalton_vol]

The hate is predominantly on the left. Why is that? Why is there no conservative movement to kill Steven Colbert (a prominent left wing voice)? Because conservatives are fine having a debate. Liberals have to resort to killing in order to silence someone. Conservatives say to Biden supporters "we think you're misguided and disagree with you politically" but they don't take it personal. Liberals say to MAGA folks "you're a bad human being". That's the difference

Conservatives still believe in a higher power than themselves. Liberals have no God (unless you mean mother nature or Islam). That's how they can justify their violence

 

[Sea Ray]

You're delusional if you think politics hasn't become deeply personal for, quite literally, everyone. It's not even remotely confined to one side.

There's much more hate on the left. Deal with it

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Who that has been involved in politics over the past 25 years is not polarizing? Grow thicker skin and use better verbs.

It doesn't bother me so please don't lecture me about it. The catalyst for it was the advent of the Internet and social media, which I alluded to much earlier in the thread

 

[DinkinFlicka]

You left these have been on the low road for about the past 10 years.

Longer than that. For those of us with a memory spanning beyond that of a goldfish, it's easy to see.

 

[hog88]

Who wants it exactly? The left so they can point and say "see?! See?! The conservatives are violent just like we said!"

Perhaps if more people got popped in the mouth when they run it, they'll stop running it and have civil discourse. They'll stop doing stupid **** like that and learn respect. Sometimes people have to learn the hard way.

I saw it on Twitter yesterday where someone said conservatives turning the cheek and saying "take the high road" has done nothing but embolden the left to push further and bred contempt that they can get away with it.

There's a lot of truth in what you're saying and you're right, people aren't afraid to run their pieholes anymore. BUT IMO when a sh^tbag pulls a stunt like that it's never good to gang up on them, a man to man beating is fine but no need to act like the sh^tbags and have multiple people give them a beat down.

 

[dalton_vol]

The 60+ year old democrats have a hard time understanding this. The Jimmy Carter dem doesn’t have a home anymore if that’s what they believe.

Yeah, the Jimmy Carter Democrats have been kicked out. They've been replaced with the violent, Neo Marxists

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

Still didn’t answer the question

Trust me….they don’t ever.

 

[NorthDallas40]

No need for that crap.

Eh that was a simple case study in play stupid games win stupid prizes.

 

[hog88]

Oven's just starting to preheat.

I'm afraid you're right.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

There's much more hate on the left. Deal with it

I'm not having to "deal" with anything.