Charlie Kirk Shot and killed

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KB5252 said:
As it should be, that person couldn't possibly continue in their capacity after that statement.
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The fact that she was the assistant dean of student is disturbing that young people relied on her for consultation. These are the types of people providing the messaging to our young people. She seems to be too clueless to know that she is part of the problem.
 
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To clarify my position further.....

If it were just some random transgender person who felt attached personally and was mentally unhinged then it would be personal.

If it were a trans activist who targeted him for his views on transgender people then it would be political.

There is a difference and there is a distinction. As I've stated multiple times now I think it most likely political due to his profile but until we have a shooter identified no one can say with certainty what the motive was.
 
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85SugarVol said:
You seem to be of the belief that the two are mutually exclusive. They’re not.

If he was shot because of his views on one of the hottest political footballs of the day, then the shooting was 100% political. Not sure how you can’t connect those dots.

I like you. So I’m going to stop before I get really condescending.

I hope your goat is doing better. You’re a good man.
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No I'm not, I'm saying until we have a shooter and motive it's impossible to say with certainty.
 
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KB5252 said:
To clarify my position further.....

If it were just some random transgender person who felt attached personally and was mentally unhinged then it would be personal.

If it were a trans activist who targeted him for his views on transgender people then it would be political.

There is a difference and there is a distinction. As I've stated multiple times now I think it most likely political due to his profile but until we have a shooter identified no one can say with certainty what the motive was.
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What are you even talking about? I'm genuinely at a loss. I know he was talking about transgenders at the time he was shot. Is this why youre dragging this into it?
 
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joevol33 said:
The problem is it takes someone to make a gun kill. Y'all want to blame an object, yet never blame the cause. Democrats are all over social media calling for violence, literally for violence. Nobody on the left will even acknowledge that, just blame guns, trump, the nra, etc. Whoever dhot him, probably wouldn't have had they not been influenced by someone. Any violence is wrong, any shooting is uncalled for (unless it's a guilty child predator), but nobody wants to address the real problem, just tge object. Look at places with gun bans, knife attacks, driving cars into crowds, evil influenced people will find a way. Until the influence stops, the violence won't. Not sure why people can't understand that.
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Wish I could give U a dozen "likes" for this one Joe!!!!!!!!
 
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C-south said:
What did he say that was untrue? To dims that’s what hurts the most…the truth and they can’t stand when someone can articulate it well.
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The democrats support feeding the hungry,housing the homeless, healing the sick,loving your neighbor among other things. All things commanded by Jesus and fought against by republicans.
 
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RockyTop140 said:
What are you even talking about? I'm genuinely at a loss. I know he was talking about transgenders at the time he was shot. Is this why youre dragging this into it?
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I heard he was taking about mass shooters/gun violence.

No I'm not dragging anything into it. I'm simply stating that we don't know with certainty what the motive was because we didn't have a shooter.

I think you're making this much more difficult than it needs to be. I'm simply using logic and critical thinking. Maybe it's my ADHD mind you're having a problem with.

All I'm saying is with a shooter it's impossible to determine motive. Is it most likely it was political..... Yeah, it's the most likely option. But it could just be personal as well.

Hopefully we'll have confirmation soon with an arrest.
 
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swampfoxfan said:
The democrats support feeding the hungry,housing the homeless, healing the sick,loving your neighbor among other things. All things commanded by Jesus and fought against by republicans.
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They don’t support the taxation of the populace so the State can in turn dole out benefits.

Why do studies show that Republicans out give Democrats to charities?
 
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KB5252 said:
I heard he was taking about mass shooters/gun violence.

No I'm not dragging anything into it. I'm simply stating that we don't know with certainty what the motive was because we didn't have a shooter.

I think you're making this much more difficult than it needs to be. I'm simply using logic and critical thinking. Maybe it's my ADHD mind you're having a problem with.

Ask I'm saying is with a shooter it's impossible to determine motive. Is it most likely it was political..... Yeah, it's the most likely option. Not it could just be personal as well.

Hopefully we'll have confirmation soon with an arrest.
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I agree that we hopefully have an arrest. But if you think anything he was talking about at the time had anything to do with his murder, youre ignorant. This was clearly pre panned
 
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85SugarVol said:
I was speaking to the hypothetical you put forth. An “unhinged trans person” shooting Kirk over assumingly his trans position.
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That would still make that personal..... Now if it were a trans activist that sought to silence Kirk for his political views........... That makes it political.
 
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KB5252 said:
That would still make that personal..... Now if it were a trans activist that sought to silence Kirk for his political views........... That makes it political.
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I know this has been explained to you already... but personal or not, its political. Simply because its a hot political topic right now
 
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bamawriter said:
But we've seen this play out so many times. At what point are these people going to pause before hitting "post" and think "maybe I'm not more insightful than the countless other online geniuses that ruined their own lives..."
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Of course I agree.
We've a large group of people without decency, a filter, or fitness for a constitutional republic. Their every dysfunction has been validated without ramifications.
Abandoning tolerance for them is what they'll respond to, but unfortunately their bench is probably 2 generations deep.
 
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evillawyer said:
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evillawyer said:
Of course no one should be killed for their views, no matter how vile or heartless. But let's not pretend Kirk didn't engage in the very rhetoric that you guys are claiming led to his death.
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Can you post and example of Kirk engaging in that kind of rhetoric? That post certainly wasn't it.

He condemns the violence. He's clearly questioning the narrative that it was a politically motivated attack.
"Bail him out and then ask him some questions. I'm not qualifying it. I think it's awful. It's not right."
He then contrasts the double standard of the assailant being held on bail while countless violent offenders are released without bail.

At no point does he condone the attack or advocate violence.
 
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85SugarVol said:
They don’t support the taxation of the populace so the State can in turn dole out benefits.

Why do studies show that Republicans out give Democrats to charities?
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I've not heard of those "studies" But I'm sure you can find a study to support whatever you wish.

You responded to one item. So apparently you see the truth in everything else. As for your taxation, how about taxing to help billionaires, deporting your neighbors, removing food aid to the poor to enrich the wealthy.
 
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