Charlie Kirk Shot and killed

[EasternVol]

It’s a made up word to imply that Trump sh*ts himself, but when I have to spell it out for you it’s not as fun, so thanks for that party pooper.

pun intended?

 

[85SugarVol]

I don't have a problem with his statement. It was senseless gun violence. Had he taken it any further id agree but his statement is factual and measured.

He gets no benefit of the doubt, from me. He’s a known commodity.

It was a calculated statement, where he chose to make it at about “gun violence”, instead of what it’s really about - political violence.

 

[RockyTop140]

Still sick thinking about this. Charlie Kirk held open discussion about politics. If you disagreed with what he had to say, you got to come to the front of the line. Disgusting

 

[KB5252]

He gets no benefit of the doubt, from me. He’s a known commodity.

It was a calculated statement, where he chose to make it at about “gun violence”, instead of what it’s really about - political violence.

Yes but that's covered by the senseless comment. If you're going to complain when they pander and editorialize for cred you have to give them credit when they stick to the facts.

 

[85SugarVol]

I don't have a problem with his statement. It was senseless gun violence. Had he taken it any further id agree but his statement is factual and measured.

And “senseless gun violence” are the countless shootings that happen in Memphis & Chicago every weekend where innocent non-targets are hit and killed.

This was a targeted, deliberate attack.

 

[OHvol40]

pun intended?

A bit

 

[85SugarVol]

Yes but that's covered by the senseless comment. If you're going to complain when they pander and editorialize for cred you have to give them credit when they stick to the facts.

He’s pandering in that statement.

 

[KB5252]

And “senseless gun violence” are the countless shootings that happen in Memphis & Chicago every weekend where innocent non-targets are hit and killed.

This was a targeted, deliberate attack.

And at the same time still senseless. It makes no sense to shoot someone who's doing you no harm.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Not what I said at all. That is your inference

He probably doesn't think anyone he agrees with could possibly be polarzing

 

[KB5252]

He’s pandering in that statement.

We can just agree to disagree there.

 

[RockyTop140]

And “senseless gun violence” are the countless shootings that happen in Memphis & Chicago every weekend where innocent non-targets are hit and killed.

This was a targeted, deliberate attack.

Yep. I havent heard a single left leaning source say any sort of condolences without throwing their spin onto it. Disgusting

 

[SagginVawls]

My Alma Mater also.......this bitch needs............

Mine as well. Don’t even want to claim it.

 

[85SugarVol]

And at the same time still senseless. It makes no sense to shoot someone who's doing you no harm.

It wasn’t senseless in the sense that term usually implies - random acts of gun violence.

It was a planned, deliberate attack.

JFK, MLK, RFK, United CEO - none of those would be classified as “senseless gun violence”. They were political assassinations.

Kimmel should have stopped short at “Kirk and his family”. But he didn’t. He had to get a plug in.

 

[85SugarVol]

We can just agree to disagree there.

He inserted a political statement. We can agree to disagree on the color of the sky, too.

 

[Type Orange+]

An estimated 200 yard shot to the neck/throat area.

I don't mean this to sound crass, but that was a display of high-level marksmanship.
This was not a person who just grabbed a rifle on a whim and decided to shoot someone.

 

[EasternVol]

And “senseless gun violence” are the countless shootings that happen in Memphis & Chicago every weekend where innocent non-targets are hit and killed.

This was a targeted, deliberate attack.

Yes but assassinating a political commentator is ultimately senseless too.

 

[KB5252]

It wasn’t senseless in the sense that term usually implies - random acts of gun violence.

It was a planned, deliberate attack.

JFK, MLK, RFK, United CEO - none of those would be classified as “senseless gun violence”. They were political assassinations.

Kimmel should have stopped short at “Kirk and his family”. But he didn’t. He had to get a plug in.

I mean it's a little early at this point. We don't even know who did it...... Much less their reasoning. And while I agree because of his profile it's most likely due to his political beliefs/stances until we have a shooter and can infer motive it's just speculation. If it was an unhinged trans person it would still be a senseless act of gun violence.

It is possible it was a political hit though, we will see....... Hopefully as the person is brought to justice.

 

[RockyTop140]

An estimated 200 yard shot to the neck/throat area.

I don't mean this to sound crass, but that was a display of high-level marksmanship.
This was not a person who just grabbed a rifle on a whim and decided to shoot someone.

I dont think it matters all that much. Anyone with a brain knows the way this country is headed. Professional hire or not, I wouldnt be surprised. Kirk was labeled as a racist, sexist, any ist you can think of. Then when he gets shot, liberal media scrambes to spin something. Disgusted is an understatement as to how i feel

 

[Smokey123]

Long but worth the read

A while ago, probably in 2017, I appeared on Tucker Carlson's Fox show to talk about God knows what. Afterwards a name I barely knew sent me a DM on twitter and told me I did a great job. It was Charlie Kirk, and that moment of kindness began a friendship that lasted until today.

Charlie was fascinated by ideas and always willing to learn and change his mind. Like me, he was skeptical of Donald Trump in 2016. Like me, he came to see President Trump as the only figure capable of moving American politics away from the globalism that had dominated for our entire lives. When others were right, he learned from them. When he was right--as he usually was--he was generous. With Charlie, the attitude was never, "I told you so." But: "welcome."

Charlie was one of the first people I called when I thought about running for senate in early 2021. I was interested but skeptical there was a pathway. We talked through everything, from the strategy to the fundraising to the grassroots of the movement he knew so well. He introduced me to some of the people who would run my campaign and also to Donald Trump Jr. "Like his dad, he's misunderstood. He's extremely smart, and very much on our wavelength." Don took a call from me because Charlie asked him too.

Long before I ever committed (even in my mind) to running, Charlie had me speak to his donors at a TPUSA event. He walked me around the room and introduced me. He gave me honest feedback on my remarks. He had no reason to do this, no expectation that I'd go anywhere. I was polling, at that point, well below 5 percent. He did it because we were friends, and because he was a good man.

When I became the VP nominee--something Charlie advocated for both in public and private--Charlie was there for me. I was so glad to be part of the president's team, but candidly surprised by the effect it had on our family. Our kids, especially our oldest, struggled with the attention and the constant presence of the protective detail. I felt this acute sense of guilt, that I had conscripted my kids into this life without getting their permission. And Charlie was constantly calling and texting, checking on our family and offering guidance and prayers. Some of our most successful events were organized not by the campaign, but by TPUSA. He wasn't just a thinker, he was a doer, turning big ideas into bigger events with thousands of activists. And after every event, he would give me a big hug, tell me he was praying for me, and ask me what he could do. "You focus on Wisconsin," he'd tell me. "Arizona is in the bag." And it was.

Charlie genuinely believed in and loved Jesus Christ. He had a profound faith. We used to argue about Catholicism and Protestantism and who was right about minor doctrinal questions. Because he loved God, he wanted to understand him.

Someone else pointed out that Charlie died doing what he loved: discussing ideas. He would go into these hostile crowds and answer their questions. If it was a friendly crowd, and a progressive asked a question to jeers from the audience, he'd encourage his fans to calm down and let everyone speak. He exemplified a foundational virtue of our Republic: the willingness to speak openly and debate ideas.

Charlie had an uncanny ability to know when to push the envelope and when to be more conventional. I've seen people attack him for years for being wrong on this or that issue publicly, never realizing that privately he was working to broaden the scope of acceptable debate.

He was a great family man. I was talking to President Trump in the Oval Office today, and he said, "I know he was a very good friend of yours." I nodded silently, and President Trump observed that Charlie really loved his family. The president was right. Charlie was so proud of Erika and the two kids. He was so happy to be a father. And he felt such gratitude for having found a woman of God with whom he could build a family.

Charlie Kirk was a true friend. The kind of guy you could say something to and know it would always stay with him. I am on more than a few group chats with Charlie and people he introduced me to over the years. We celebrate weddings and babies, bust each other's chops, and mourn the loss of loved ones. We talk about politics and policy and sports and life. These group chats include people at the very highest level of our government. They trusted him, loved him, and knew he'd always have their backs. And because he was a true friend ,you could instinctively trust the people Charlie introduced you to. So much of the success we've had in this administration traces directly to Charlie's ability to organize and convene. He didn't just help us win in 2024, he helped us staff the entire government.

I was in a meeting in the West Wing when those group chats started lighting up with people telling Charlie they were praying for him. And that's how I learned the news that my friend had been shot. I prayed a lot over the next hour, as first good news and then bad trickled in.

God didn't answer those prayers, and that's OK. He had other plans. And now that Charlie is in heaven, I'll ask him to talk to big man directly on behalf of his family, his friends, and the country he loved so dearly.

You ran a good race, my friend.

We've got it from here.

 

[KptVFL]

Losing faith in humanity!

I've never listened to Charlie Kirk in my life. Don't understand the, oh, it shouldn't have happened, BUT he said this posts. Not helpful in any way. A young father just died! Does not matter if you liked him or not. HE IS DEAD! He has a wife and kids that will never see him again.

When you say I don't approve of it, BUT!

YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM!

Have many friends that I don't agree with politically. News flash..... we are still friends! Be an adult!

Really concerns me with my young son's futures!

Guy wasn't even an elected official. Just someone with an opinion.

 

[NorthDallas40]

He probably doesn't think anyone he agrees with could possibly be polarzing

He came in with soap box out and rhetoric blazing. Responding to any post would have sufficed I’d guess.

 

[KptVFL]

An estimated 200 yard shot to the neck/throat area.

I don't mean this to sound crass, but that was a display of high-level marksmanship.
This was not a person who just grabbed a rifle on a whim and decided to shoot someone.

Missed his target but was close. Zero chance was aiming for the neck!

Definitely not a grab and go, though.

 

[KptVFL]

I mean it's a little early at this point. We don't even know who did it...... Much less their reasoning. And while I agree because of his profile it's most likely due to his political beliefs/stances until we have a shooter and can infer motive it's just speculation. If it was an unhinged trans person it would still be a senseless act of gun violence.

It is possible it was a political hit though, we will see....... Hopefully as the person is brought to justice.

You seriois, Clark?

 

[RockyTop140]

I mean it's a little early at this point. We don't even know who did it...... Much less their reasoning. And while I agree because of his profile it's most likely due to his political beliefs/stances until we have a shooter and can infer motive it's just speculation. If it was an unhinged trans person it would still be a senseless act of gun violence.

It is possible it was a political hit though, we will see....... Hopefully as the person is brought to justice.

Good grief. Go to bed man. What an idiotic post

 

[NCFisher]

An estimated 200 yard shot to the neck/throat area.

I don't mean this to sound crass, but that was a display of high-level marksmanship.
This was not a person who just grabbed a rifle on a whim and decided to shoot someone.

With a brief instructional, someone who's never touched a rifle can get behind a scoped .223, .308, whatever and flat out nail targets at that range. Common rounds shoot flat at that range, no need to adjust for elevation.
Shooting targets at 200 yards can actually be quite boring, it's so easy. Unless you're using a .22LR which doesn't appear the case here.