Charlie Kirk Shot and killed

[Vol8188]

Thoughts and prayers.

Stay classy!

 

[BreatheUT]

Come on lefties. Come defend this!!!!

Didn't you like disgusting post #2?

 

[McDad]

I've got a lot of hate in my heart, and there are indeed some who i would celebrate their deaths. But not like this. Not political ********.

There isn't anyone on this forum i hold any hate for, and though I might think this person or that person is an idiot, I like most everyone here in a we're all vols {even lg (you cant be here this long if you aint in the vols closet)}

I left Tennessee a decade ago for the Mid-Atlantic and this forum is kind of like my Mayberry, making me feel some connection still to where I was born. The political climate here kinda stinks bad enough(I dont mean its too far left or too far right, I mean its just so much finger pointing and link spamming and "these people here are always bad"!) that sometimes I consider leaving, but football season starts and it always brings me back.

I have a significant amount of rage inside me, too.

I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you have this connection to Tennessee.

 

[dalton_vol]

I’m not emotionally connected at all. I’m emotionally connected to the fact that there is a thing called free speech. Just like this board and I hear it way too often, don’t like it, don’t listen or read it. Move on and be a normal human being. He could talk the most **** in the world and wouldn’t deserve to be shot and killed.

I despise Obama, Kamala, and Biden but I would never in a million years wish death on them.

The left doesn't want free speech. Every dictator totalitarian communist has always fought against free speech

 

[CobbWebb71]

Not to be callous towards the man, but why do so many of you feel an emotional connection to Charlie or his murder?

My emotional connection is to my children, who are growing up in a world that gets more bat **** crazy by the day.
I don’t care if it’s Kirk, school children, gay, straight, black, white, Republican, Democrat, Christian, Muslim, atheist...I don’t like that people are now getting murdered for opinions, on live television.
Human life is being devalued more and more by the day and that is a great indicator of a failing society.

 

[ButchPlz]

Obviously mcdad doesn't understand that self responsibility is a white, colonial, patriarch construct. Is that how you say it lg?

This all started because the left couldn't handle pepe memes and milk...

 

[OHvol40]

Have you ever listened to one of his speeches or his interactions with people?

Yes

 

[Ttucke11]

You are seriously one of the most hateful people on this board, to the point that it's entertaining. It's so bad that I can't put you on ignore. I can't look away. But it's all so stupid that it's easy to avoid responding.

You were in the Crime thread today trying to stir up a race war based on the actions of a mentally ill person. You have no room to talk about humanity.

Oh no, huff thinks I'm mean. How will I recover? You seem to still be responding.

Btw for clarification, me stirring up a race war was stating more black men should raise their children, and then statistics pulled straight from the FBI. But I understand all facts hurt your feelings.

 

[CobbVol]

"I think empathy is a made-up new age term that does a lot of damage."

-Charlie Kirk

And the rest of the story ...

“The new communication strategy is not to do what Bill Clinton used to do, where he would say, ‘I feel your pain.’ Instead, it is to say ‘you’re actually not in pain.’ So let’s just — a little very short clip. Bill Clinton in the 1990s, it was all about empathy and sympathy,” Kirk said.

“I can’t stand the word empathy actually. I think empathy is a made-up, New Age term that — it does a lot of damage, but it is very effective when it comes to politics,” he added.

“Sympathy I prefer more than empathy,” Kirk said, “That’s a separate topic for a different time.”

- Charlie Kirk

 

[C-south]

I’ll point you to the same thing I pointed out to the last one: I elaborated it was figuratively.

Like the “oppression” you claim for these lunatics.

 

[McDad]

I'll answer too since I saw someone else did.

I disagreed with a lot of what Charlie Kirk said on some specific topics. I believe his general idea was right in a lot of ways. But like I said, he was a milquetoast, mainstream conservative.

If milquetoast, mainstream conservatism apparently deserves this type of violence, what does that mean for those of us that actually fall further right on a lot of issues?

None of us deserve murder. Being killed for words or ideas is a bridge too far.

 

[ButchPlz]

None of us deserve murder. Being killed for words or ideas is a bridge too far.

I agree 100%. But that's not what I'm seeing already from actual mainstream leftist media and politicians. It's not right.

 

[Volnanza]

Looks like the gun was a heavy caliber hunting rifle with a scope.

 

[sjt18]

I understand all you shared.

Why is it emotionally charged for you?

Because he engaged people with opinions and facts... truth... that at least gave them perspective. Because he was a decent guy committed to the kind of dialogue that even most Democrats say they want. Because he was an unashamed Christian whose Christianity informed his political views. Because he modeled the "hope" of returning America to a nation built on the SUCCESSFUL traditional model of marriage and family to a generation that desperately needs the good and hope it provides. Maybe because he boldly argued sanity to insane ideas.

He changed the country and the next generation for the better. I am not a very emotional person. I almost never have outbursts of emotions. But this... enrages me. Daily we're treated to accusations from the left that we are "nazis" or that "billionaires" are victimizing people or that people who want to strip government of the power to infringe on individual rights... are the "enemies of democracy". He spoke up to them. I didn't even agree with him on every issue but he is a martyr for the 1st Amendment... and just that would be enough.

 

[McDad]

I’m not emotionally connected at all. I’m emotionally connected to the fact that there is a thing called free speech. Just like this board and I hear it way too often, don’t like it, don’t listen or read it. Move on and be a normal human being. He could talk the most **** in the world and wouldn’t deserve to be shot and killed.

I despise Obama, Kamala, and Biden but I would never in a million years wish death on them.

Some of us were raised with the "don't like the show, turn the channel or turn off the tv" philosophy.

Many now have the philosophy of "I don't like the show, so you need to stop broadcasting".

That isn't making more resilient as a society.

 

[apevol]

I agree 100%. But that's not what I'm seeing already from actual mainstream leftist media and politicians. It's not right.

id say this is an opportunity for the democrats in America to abandon the unacceptable elements of their party and give us a party worth voting for, but likely won't happen

 

[sjt18]

Looks like the gun was a heavy caliber hunting rifle with a scope.

Which would put it into the same category as someone getting trampled by a unicorn stampede.

 

[volsforever27]

None of us deserve murder. Being killed for words or ideas is a bridge too far.

But unfortunately, there’s a segment of the population that believes it isn’t only right, but necessary.

How large is it? No idea but it seems like it’s getting bigger as time passes.

 

[McDad]

My emotional connection is to my children, who are growing up in a world that gets more bat **** crazy by the day.
I don’t care if it’s Kirk, school children, gay, straight, black, white, Republican, Democrat, Christian, Muslim, atheist...I don’t like that people are now getting murdered for opinions, on live television.
Human life is being devalued more and more by the day and that is a great indicator of a failing society.

If you look at our rates of violent crime, we're actually getting safer.

What we're experiencing is that the smallest minds have the biggest megaphones.

 

[McDad]

I agree 100%. But that's not what I'm seeing already from actual mainstream leftist media and politicians. It's not right.

Ignore them?

 

[85SugarVol]

****

Oh BS.

You believe it’s “morally acceptable” to “do anything” to random, no-name ICE Agents.

Can’t imagine what you thought was “morally acceptable” to do the political figure you hold most responsible for the current discourse around illegal aliens.

 

[Voltrapnbama]

Some of us were raised with the "don't like the show, turn the channel or turn off the tv" philosophy.

Many now have the philosophy of "I don't like the show, so you need to stop broadcasting".

That isn't making more resilient as a society.

I agree with that. But accept people’s opinions. Just because someone is getting through to kids, doesn’t mean he should be murdered.

 

[volbound1700]

If you look at our rates of violent crime, we're actually getting safer.

What we're experiencing is that the smallest minds have the biggest megaphones.

Agree. I pointed out to my wife that the movie "Forrest Gump" basically shows the timeline based on Political Assassinations (or attempts with the Reagan one).

 

[CobbWebb71]

Some of you people are sick!!
It’s almost as if you are defending this?
This thread reminds me of how stupidly and sheepishly people will blindly follow politics, right to the edge and over the cliff.
How disgusting some of you are and I don’t care if you’re democrat, republican or of this “offends” you.
People get murdered and it’s left wing this, right wing that...
Some of you need to step away from the political BS for a minute and actually try to become human again and have some damn sympathy for your fellow man, politics be damned!

 

[Voltrapnbama]

If you look at our rates of violent crime, we're actually getting safer.

What we're experiencing is that the smallest minds have the biggest megaphones.

So guns aren’t the problem?