Charlie Kirk Shot and killed

[apevol]

The emotional component is what this may represent for discourse in our society?

Is that accurate?

I don't know, but we cant communicate anymore

I know almost nothing about this guy but it seemed he at least wanted public discourse, and someone decided to shut that down by ending his life

 

[sjt18]

Not to be callous towards the man, but why do so many of you feel an emotional connection to Charlie or his murder?

I do. He was assassinated for daring to confront young people with facts and reason that the left didn't want them to hear. He was civil. He generally started the Q&A session by inviting those who disagreed with him to the front of the line. He has a lot of videos out there. Watch some and explain what he did that was worthy of death. He advocated for freedom and against the insanity that defines the left today. He wasn't mean. But those who present facts and reason to support their opinions are highly offensives to those... who don't.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Does that mean it feels like it hits close to home for you?

I guess so.

 

[rekinhavoc]

I disagree.

I think the blood is on the murderer's hands.

I understand that point.

I just don't like the political environment. I feel like the lords and ladies keep the peasants at each others throat to distract from their incompetence and enriching themselves.

 

[jmacvols1]

 

[CobbVol]

For me, it’s just the image of a man sitting on stage talking and suddenly hit with a kill shot. It’s just troubling that anybody gets gunned down for an opinion.

I hope the shooter does indeed have a mental illness issue. If not, we have more problems.

 

[Carl Pickens]

I’m not so sure that people do feel an “emotional connection” to Charlie Kirk himself or his murder, I do however feel that many have an “emotional outlook” about what it symbolizes about the state of this country and world and about what this murder will lead to. It’s all but assured that this murder just created at least a few million more Charlie Kirks.

You’re probably right and it may create more shooters

 

[McDad]

I agree with you, but you're going to have a lot of emotional posting ITT and most aren't going to look past their party affiliations to process it logically.

That's okay.

Emotional event. Emotions are heightened.

 

[luthervol]

So far, so good.

Fingers crossed.

 

[sjt18]

I understand that point.

I just don't like political environment. I feel like the lords and ladies keep the peasants at each others throat to distract from their incompetence and enriching themselves.

Kirk has lots of videos on youtube. Watch some. He was using his free speech rights to engage in civil exchanges. What he did was the SOLUTION- free exchange of ideals.

He was killed because his speech offended leftist ideas.

 

[volbeast33]

THen no one shall ask you to choose. It's not about making a choice of who got to die today.

He is happy that he was shot and killed.

 

[McDad]

I don't know, but we cant communicate anymore

I know almost nothing about this guy but it seemed he at least wanted public discourse, and someone decided to shut that down by ending his life

I think we communicate fine. Ive never had issues with you or your opinions.

 

[n_huffhines]

Subjective.

No understanding to gain by pressing.

No problem for me if you find it dismissive.

I'm not really taking a subjective position.

 

[TNVOLNAVY]

 

[apevol]

I think we communicate fine. Ive never had issues with you or your opinions.

well, you cheered me up a bit at least

 

[McDad]

I do. He was assassinated for daring to confront young people with facts and reason that the left didn't want them to hear. He was civil. He generally started the Q&A session by inviting those who disagreed with him to the front of the line. He has a lot of videos out there. Watch some and explain what he did that was worthy of death. He advocated for freedom and against the insanity that defines the left today. He wasn't mean. But those who present facts and reason to support their opinions are highly offensives to those... who don't.

I understand all you shared.

Why is it emotionally charged for you?

 

[Carl Pickens]

Hope your daughter is able to process through the trauma with no lasting effects.

And I hope there are no posters so classless, petty, and ignorant that they would continually make fun of your daughter for reacting with tears.

Unfortunately.....we have some of those.

I like to give you hell when I can, but outside of the VN Politics forum you’re probably a pretty good dude

 

[PEPPERJAX]

If larger and larger groups of people feel oppressed and demonized by others… violence inevitably follows.

I’ve seen people compare this to MLKjr… MLK got in people’s faces (figuratively) and advocated for peace and equality. Kirk got in people’s faces too, but was he advocating for the same kind of thing?

Kirk got in people’s faces?

 

[BeardedVol]

Probably not because of the difference in their prominence, but an assassination with such gory detail will be hard to unsee.

I still remember R. Budd Dwyer's press conference; violence in America, and it being broadcast to us on a near daily basis, has just been commonplace for the entirety of my life.

 

[OHvol40]

Kirk got in people’s faces?

If you notice, I elaborated that it was figurative.

 

[McDad]

I'm not really taking a subjective position.

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"Might be seen". Huff, it's subjective.

I am moving on. :hat tip:

 

[apevol]

I still remember R. Budd Dwyer's press conference; violence in America, and it being broadcast to us on a near daily basis, has just been commonplace for the entirety of my life.

was he posthumously found to be innocent of corruption charges?
that video ****ed me up for a while

 

[Carl Pickens]

I didnt watch but my daughter did on accident and called me crying. She just saw the tag line that he had been shot and pressed play not thinking it was the actual footage. Wish I could pray that image out of her mind but I cannot. She has a Beyond the Basics Bible study class after church tonight. Hope she skips it and comes home so I can comfort her.

Edit: I trust that God can comfort her better than I ever could. I just selfishly want her with me because she is upset.

I hate to hear that marcus. The same thing happened to me and I wish I hadn’t seen it.

 

[ButchPlz]

Kirk got in people’s faces?

I often gave him crap for being less aggressive. He did exactly the opposite of being aggressive and in people's faces and got killed for it anyway.

 

[Carl Pickens]

"Might be seen". Huff, it's subjective.

I am moving on. :hat tip:

You’re arguing/debating a brick wall