Changing spring practice and the weight lifting

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Vol8188 said:
You were vague because used jargon instead of explaining the assignment.

If two is out quick (within 5) he opens his hips to one and walls. If one is vertical he chases the out.
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I said it how Saban or Pruitt will say it but okay. Part of learning a system is learning the terminology used. None of these terms are mine. How am I supposed to know what terms you do or don’t know? It is a quicker way of saying it. But I’m over the argument. Your way is completely fine but there are other ways of doing things. Not all pattern matching is the same.
 
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Go Vols 5 said:
I said it how Saban or Pruitt will say it but okay. Part of learning a system is learning the terminology used. None of these terms are mine. How am I supposed to know what terms you do or don’t know? It is a quicker way of saying it. But I’m over the argument. Your way is completely fine but there are other ways of doing things. Not all pattern matching is the same.
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Sure, use the terminology. No one is saying not to. But don’t just use the terminology without explaining and then pretend like you did explain it.

And that’s been my point all along. Nothing you’re talking about is unique. Everyone in America does these things. So the idea of super long learning curve is just not realistic.
 
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I could be wrong, but I think we will play more rip and Liz (Sabans Cover 3 look) than anything else on defense.
 
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We might all be under estimating the players knowledge and understanding of the game. They are football players dedicated to learning their craft and being the best at what they do. Some will struggle and even fail. That will happen with new and existing players. I don’t believe for one second this staff will over complicate their playbook to the point of failure. CJP doesn’t seem like the type of coach that will set anyone up for failure. At least not on purpose, via “my way or bust”. The D-line will be the key to all of this. When he gets the guys or production from guys on the D-line, we will see the results. My personal feelings are that we have the backers, though not a lot, and D-backs to be good, but our D-line will be the key to success.
 
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If anyone knows how to fit off season workouts and 3 practices a week together, please speak up.
 
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Nocleats said:
3 years before system is firmly working, on and off the field. This defense will take 2 years to learn.
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It better not take until the 3rd year to learn their offensive and defensive philosophies and schemes. And he better win 9 or more games in year two or history tells us he’ll likely never win an SEC title here. The best coaches win and they win quickly. I don’t expect a great season in 2018 by any means. But 2019 better find us right in the mix for winning the East.
 
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Caleb59seal said:
Not to be "that guy"
But the Cov. 7 (Quarters coverage) is a playbook by itself. So, there will be a lot of learning to do. I think we will drill the crap out of fundamental football and be ready to go. However, I don't see us being diverse schematically the first half of the season. He has to teach this team to walk before they can run. I like the enthusiasm... Go vols.
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not saying its easy to learn. but if a freshman can come in and play in his defense(which has happened) then after a full spring and summer they will be able to run there defense
 
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wmcovol said:
Most here are referring to the disaster of 2012 of moving to the 3-4 under Dooley/Sinseri. Those two could have 5 yrs and they couldn't teach the 3-4 defense.

It's more about getting the correct personnel as much as it is teaching. Tennessee is thin at LB and don't have the right ones either. DE might be ok if NT works out (gonna have a stud there and I don't see a Payne-type NT on Vols roster). Also, CB play has to improve. It's been dismal the last 10 yrs+
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Players are the key regardless of scheme. But UGA was pretty stacked and took a beating the year they switched to 3-4. Next season they were much better. I think we take some tough lumps in 18’. Hopefully some of this class will get PT and everyone will be ready to roll for 19.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I could be wrong, but I think we will play more rip and Liz (Sabans Cover 3 look) than anything else on defense.
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Yes, I believe you are. Cover 3 rip/Liz (atleast in coaching circles) is one of the most overly complicated things we talk about... It is actually pretty easy but it also has holes and based on what packages we will see we won't run that as much as Cov.7... Do yourself a favor and go on twitter and look up James A. Light... He is a great resource.

But we will for sure run a lot of cover 3 rip liz.

In simple terms (not that you need it but just to be quicker)
Man Matched= you carry the stem and wait for the break or distribution of the WR's to buy one.
Zone Match= you drop to your spot until they break and then you buy them and you buy the second through all the way.

Crossers= zone you let go
Man you buy right away

It can be hard to distinguish between the two because their isn't much difference and the people you key is pretty close to you anyway...
Also, go online and look up Alabama playbook 2008 it's all their for you. You obviously know what you're talking about so I am in no way trying to say you don't. Appreciate the contributions!
 
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Go Vols 5 said:
Okay, if you say so.
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Haha this cracked me up.

Trying to follow the coach's discussion/semi argument in here...

Go vols 5 is definitely correct when he said, "I think you are proving my point about this taking time to learn."

Pretty good show of patience knowledge and argument avoidance, go vols 5.
 
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DaUndergroundMan said:
Haha this cracked me up.

Trying to follow the coach's discussion/semi argument in here...

Go vols 5 is definitely correct when he said, "I think you are proving my point about this taking time to learn."

Pretty good show of patience knowledge and argument avoidance, go vols 5.
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And the difference in any system is when your upper class men have a strong enough grasp on the system that they are sitting around the lunch table and in the dorm explaining to the younger guys.

That takes couple of years.
 
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This is an outstanding approach. Teach, execute, correct, repeat, repeat, repeat...

Over the past five years we have seen uncorrected mistakes happen over and over in games that should have been corrected in practice.

The beauty of this process is that you quickly recognize the players that can take corrections early. Don't be surprised if you see some guys that were destined as backups quickly move into contention for playing time.

Is comes down to this: if you can't teach, you can't coach.

GBO
 
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Orange defense said:
Pruitt outlines Tennessee's plan for spring practice
Love the schedule of the way spring practices will go. I think teaching in between will help. I like the way they are going to implement the weight program. He wants a bigger team on that field by the fall. I think this team will learn his system in no time, and within the first game, they will be willing to go. Pruitt will make them hungry to win. The excitement of a new football coach, with the returning football players will make it fun. The 2018 class will be excited to come in and help this team out. What a way to kick off 2018 against West Virginia.
AS ALWAYS...GO VOLS GO VOLS GO VOLS...:rock::clapping::dance2::good!::pepper:
Let’s try to remain positive, support this team, and let’s see if we can keep the players fired up till September. Let them know somehow that we are fired up behind them...:hi:
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Mrs Pruitt, you sure are starting alot of threads.
 
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I think the big difference is Butch would practice five days a week but not teach. CJP will practice but also teach and develop until they know it and can perform on their own two feet. Teach them how to fish.
 
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Does anybody remember the opening kickoff of the TAM game two years ago? That play summed up the team's mental preparedness during the Jones regime as well as any other. I gotta think the new guy can do better than that.
 
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Behr said:
I couldn't agree more.
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Just think about what the Junior College coach of the year is faced with. Kids have to learn the system in no time.

For the first few games the team will run stuff that people can learn, and I expect it to work.

He says he wants to win every game.

Skill player sets by committee, like lines in hockey.
 
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savannahfan said:
Not to doubt you or your nephew, but how to you put on muscle in 45-60 days that you can see with out some kind of "help"? 60 days is not much time to make a visual change in a persons body, at least for me to see.
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You are not lifting and eating right then. Lol

60 days could pack on ample muscle and then continue lifting all yearlong like other teams and they will be all good.
 
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VolTexas said:
Just think about what the Junior College coach of the year is faced with. Kids have to learn the system in no time.

For the first few games the team will run stuff that people can learn, and I expect it to work.

He says he wants to win every game.

Skill player sets by committee, like lines in hockey.
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Beat me to it.
 
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greazy1722 said:
My nephew Brandon told me just facing teams like Alabama and UGA showed how small there team was. He told me there corners was built like linebackers lol. I saw Brandon recently and he has put on so much muscle since Pruitt came. Its like u can see the results. Look out for breakout season.
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Did Jones not have a weight/nutrition program at all? That's odd for a SEC program?
 
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