Chances we have a good rushing attack in 2012

#27
#27
Another year hitting the iron will be huge for this group of lineman and running backs for that matter. IMO they will be much improved for this fact alone. Big difference in 18 and 22....
 
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#28
#28
There should be a pretty big transformation from sophomore to Junior years, especially with the OL and RBs. IDK how much more beastly Hunter (at 100%) and da'rick can get, but it seems like they just matured faster physically.
 
#29
#29
I think we should hope for an acceptable running game. I don't think we're suddenly going to be a great or even good running team after struggling so terribly last year.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
I agree.. if we can get 140 to 150 yards per game on the ground we will have a good to great season provided no major injuries...

Bray's checks have always concerned me...
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For our offense to be successful running the ball, Bray is going to have to get much better at reading defenses and calling checks. Bray is the main key, along with better block from the OL and less dancing in the backfield by the backs.
 
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Outdors21 said:
Jim Chaney still calling the plays, designing the plays, and setting the blocking scheme?

Probably not very good chance of a quality running game then.
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here's the problem with Chaney, he has ONE playbook, and if the personel aren't in place to make it work it doesn't work. He's never shown an ability or willingness to tailor his playcalling to suit the players he has. Stubborn or stupid, i dunno. but we have the horses to run it now so i'm sure he'll look like a genious again.
 
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1982Alum said:
Our line was flat awful in run blocking last year. That's not a one man issue like who is the RB; but a 5 man issue. I don't have a lot of hope it will greatly improve until we change some of the OL bodies out there. Either they are in the wrong positions or we need to rotate in some other starters somewhere (like Tiny). The center issue was the biggest joke last season for the offense. We can't live another season with that going on.
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run blocking was shacky but guys, Poole was terrible, just effin terrible.
 
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VolFootballlover said:
I think the chances are good, we have proven we can pass the ball, so the 9 men in the box should be history
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Eggzacklee. They will have no choice to respect our beastly passing attack, and no more stacking the line with 8, or 9. They do that, and Bray & company wil have a field day.
 
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I think the bulk of it rests on the maturation of Bray. If he becomes the student of the game that he needs to be, I think he will make better checks and we run the ball better.

All this being said, the offensive line has to show some cohesiveness as well. I am excited about Borque, I think he is a difference maker this year JMO.
 
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bgmuvol said:
I think the bulk of it rests on the maturation of Bray. If he becomes the student of the game that he needs to be, I think he will make better checks and we run the ball better.

All this being said, the offensive line has to show some cohesiveness as well. I am excited about Borque, I think he is a difference maker this year JMO.
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I'm very excited to see what Bourque can do. He seems electric with the ball in his hands. Love his spin move.
 
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#37
Heck I will take on 3rd and 2 we line up in the I formation and actually pick it up. No throws on 4th and 1.. that will be a big improvement in my eyes in the running game.

Just make a freaking first down by pushing people around.........
 
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92volalum said:
Heck I will take on 3rd and 2 we line up in the I formation and actually pick it up. No throws on 4th and 1.. that will be a big improvement in my eyes in the running game.

Just make a freaking first down by pushing people around.........
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This. Nothing makes me more mad than it being 3rd&1 and we line up 5-out. You have to be able to convert that.
 
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VolThis said:
This. Nothing makes me more mad than it being 3rd&1 and we line up 5-out. You have to be able to convert that.
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Me too. It's very depressing. If we are in their side of the field, rub it, and I'd you don't get it, run it again !!!!
 
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If we average such yrds, it would be a shame for Poole! He was such a VFL (going through all the changes, yet still remained a Vol), I think he was a much better running back than what he got to show! Hopefully Pittman and Graham will produce a much better running attack! These 2 need to be attached at the hip, to produce an old fashioned running attack that TN fans are use to!
 
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SandoVOL said:
Even with the hire of new coaches, I think a lot is still going to depend on Bray and his checks.
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That is the key right there. He has to understand that he doesn't have to go downfield every time. If he can start hitting the underneath guys coming out of the backfield, Lane, Neal, maybe Pig and keep the lb's from taking deeper drops, that will open up the deep pass AND the running game. Chaney knows how to coach offense. He just has not had all the weapons.
Hell he coached Drew Brees and he has done alright. It's all a mindset that Bray has to understand. It's not just chunk it deep every play, but the whole field needs to be utilized, with all the weapons finally at his disposal. Hope he finally understands that this year. If he does we could be almost unstoppable. Just saying...:yes:
 
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17Vols said:
here's the problem with Chaney, he has ONE playbook, and if the personel aren't in place to make it work it doesn't work. He's never shown an ability or willingness to tailor his playcalling to suit the players he has. Stubborn or stupid, i dunno. but we have the horses to run it now so i'm sure he'll look like a genious again.
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Amen. 100% accurate.
 
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Uh.... 138.6 yards per game. +/- 30 yards per game.

Really, who the hell knows, guys? New backs, new OL coach, new RBI coach, change in scheme, Bray's maturation in making checks, 5* juco wideout, Hunter's knee... Hot stove league is one thing, but predicting the average rushing yards per game in mid February?
 
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VolMax said:
Uh.... 138.6 yards per game. +/- 30 yards per game.

Really, who the hell knows, guys? New backs, new OL coach, new RBI coach, change in scheme, Bray's maturation in making checks, 5* juco wideout, Hunter's knee... Hot stove league is one thing, but predicting the average rushing yards per game in mid February?
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Missed that new hire- who is the new RBI coach:):)
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Agree



I guess Coach Jay Graham was a waste of a hire...Just going to sit watch and cheer.

We have something we have not had since Dooley has been here and that is a real Running Back Coach.....which was needed....
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The core problem is not , nor ever was the lack of a RB coach. The core issue is not the O line coach , or the O line. It is not the running backs,

The issue is the scheme . regardless of who is to blame for it ...it will not produce a running game in the SEC. It is interesting to note ..Chaney has never produced a successful running game . This offense we are attempting to run , was successful in the Big 10 , run by a highly mobile very accurate Drew Brees, but it did not produce a running game.

It is a spint draw running system ,,,which is the inverse of orthodox running games ,,,in that every play is designed to look like a pass ...and the play action is actually the run.

The running back is set deeper than standard , the QB drops or sets up in the shotgun as if a pass ...and then hands off to the back. problem 1 ) the hole flashes open at the point that the running back receives the ball. 2) SEC backers sit over the running lane and make a simple read . When they diagnose pass they either drop into a 'cloud' clogging the middle of the field and forcing the pass down field or out and under or the blitz thru the running lane 3) if they diagnose run ..they simply attack into the gap uncontested because there is no fullback!

This is a very easy run read they are giving to some very talented backers. It also allows defenses as a matter of coarse to hamstring the passing game

The Oline is catching flack , but due to the scheme their run blocks have to look like passblocks. When they plug block and hole block , they look pretty good....they rarely ever get to do it. Think back on the offset I they used against LSU right before the half. They were scared to throw at them so they lined up in various power forms and pounded it .

All of that being said , they must get the QB under center and run standard power sets and play action out of it with the back the proper distance from the point of attack.

While we passed all over the minor league teams ...we just couldnt run the ball...even against montana . In case any body has missed it ...you cant win the SEC without a real running attack .
 
#47
#47
I don't think we have the RB we need to see a big improvement there.
I hope I am wrong.
I would like the offense to go the other direction.
Spread the field with 4 WR and a single RB and open up the offense.
 
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