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tennesseeduke

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It was said multiple times at the beginning and during the season that just winning all or more game games than everyone else is all you need meaning schedule cupcakes outside the league. Here is proof that logic is not true!

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That being said I think and I'm happy that we have such a strong traditional out of conference schedule and we definitely need to continue based on the final 4 this year.

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After looking at the final rankings, my impression is the Big XII is shooting itself in the foot by not having a championship game.
 
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Evidently. As with anything in the NCAA, somebody will be complaining about "the system", no matter what the system is. In this case it's a whole conference that got hosed. I figure any team that could beat Oregon, Florida State, and Alabama deserves to be #1. If there is a team outside the playoff system that was prepared to do that, well then they didn't get a fair chance. I didn't realize how many really good teams there are until they started trying to pick 4.
 
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Firebirdparts said:
Evidently. As with anything in the NCAA, somebody will be complaining about "the system", no matter what the system is. In this case it's a whole conference that got hosed. I figure any team that could beat Oregon, Florida State, and Alabama deserves to be #1. If there is a team outside the playoff system that was prepared to do that, well then they didn't get a fair chance. I didn't realize how many really good teams there are until they started trying to pick 4.
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Wonder how many years it will take until they expand it to 8, then 16, 32, 64, oh wait plus 4 more?
 
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It's pretty lame that OSU is in basically only because the committee is too chickens hit to choose between TCU and Baylor. I never want Bama to win, but I hope they absolutely curb stomp OSU in the first round. It will make their loss in the championship more painful while demonstrating that there are no good teams in the B1G.
 
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tennesseeduke said:
It was said multiple times at the beginning and during the season that just winning all or more game games than everyone else is all you need meaning schedule cupcakes outside the league. Here is proof that logic is not true!

B4RYzm6CQAACZeW.jpg


That being said I think and I'm happy that we have such a strong traditional out of conference schedule and we definitely need to continue based on the final 4 this year.

:loco:

TENNESSEEDUKE
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Aren't all those numbers you're showing including the win/loss percentages of their conference opponents, though?

That doesn't reall work for what you're saying about scheduling tough/better out of conference teams.

You need to remove the conference teams and just show their W-L for out of conference opponents.
 
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My biggest problem with the current system is that you have 10 conferences (approx. 120+ schools) paying at the same competitive level of college football. With the current 4-team format, the "Power 5" has effectively barred teams in the other conferences from competing in the playoff. Also with the 4-team, format, one (or more) champion from the power 5 will be excluded, as Baylor was this year.

The bowl system has never made sense to me and I've long been a proponent of a 16 team playoff along the lines of what is done in the FCS and the other two divisions of college football. There will be a clear cut path into the field by winning your conference championship and the nation champion will be crowned on the field.
 
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voltnh said:
My biggest problem with the current system is that you have 10 conferences (approx. 120+ schools) paying at the same competitive level of college football. With the current 4-team format, the "Power 5" has effectively barred teams in the other conferences from competing in the playoff. Also with the 4-team, format, one (or more) champion from the power 5 will be excluded, as Baylor was this year.

The bowl system has never made sense to me and I've long been a proponent of a 16 team playoff along the lines of what is done in the FCS and the other two divisions of college football. There will be a clear cut path into the field by winning your conference championship and the nation champion will be crowned on the field.
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Even the coaches didn't complain so much. They could see the writing on the wall. 12-1 and playing a true conference championship trumps an 11-1 co-champ any day.

So, in your delusional 16 team playoff, do you purpose to eliminate the Conference Championship?
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
Even the coaches didn't complain so much. They could see the writing on the wall. 12-1 and playing a true conference championship trumps an 11-1 co-champ any day.

So, in your delusional 16 team playoff, do you purpose to eliminate the Conference Championship?
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Of course, not. It's actually a key component of the system. Conferences would determine champions in a manner they deem fit.

16 teams is an adequate representation of the 120+ teams in Division 1 FBS and would crown a true national champion in a similar manner that is done in every other division of college football.
 
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voltnh said:
Of course, not. It's actually a key component of the system. Conferences would determine champions in a manner they deem fit.

16 teams is an adequate representation of the 120+ teams in Division 1 FBS and would crown a true national champion in a similar manner that is done in every other division of college football.
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What would the purpose be and if you look at the rankings from 1-16 the Sunday after Thanksgiving, how many of those teams were actually outside the Power 5? Additionally, why would ANY school sign up to play a post season playoff game against Billy Bob U that happens to be the Conf Champ from the lower south west mountain pacific conference?
 
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The most they should entertain is 6 teams. 1 and 2 get a bye. And for the record, I am completely against the playoff. I think the BCS got it right all but a couple of years.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
What would the purpose be and if you look at the rankings from 1-16 the Sunday after Thanksgiving, how many of those teams were actually outside the Power 5? Additionally, why would ANY school sign up to play a post season playoff game against Billy Bob U that happens to be the Conf Champ from the lower south west mountain pacific conference?
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I looked out of curiosity..... No 22 wasn't a Power 5 team. And only 2 out of the top 25. This doesn't even include the Big 12's 12th game.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
The most they should entertain is 6 teams. 1 and 2 get a bye. And for the record, I am completely against the playoff. I think the BCS got it right all but a couple of years.
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So I guess you will not be watching the two playoff games? :ermm:
 
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the playoff was needed to avoid a 3-team dilemma. it looks as though this year we had a 3-team dilemma for the 4 seed, but the committee got it right (BCS may not have). The final 4 was right, but the road getting to choosing those 4 teams was bad. TCU should have never been ranked #3. Baylor beat them head to head so they SHOULD be Big 12 champions. Unfortunately for them, their conference president ruined their chances of going to the playoff by declaring co-champions. These are the best 4 teams in the country and it will make for a great new years day.

And to justify the playoff from NCAA's perspective? It's all for the money
 
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