CFN Ranks Vols O-Line #1

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Very nice. They have been getting a lot of protection and better run production. I'm glad to see that they are being recognized for their efforts.....even if it is just a "ranking" list
 
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CFN is the Lou Holtz of the internet when it comes to College Football analysis.
 
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<-------- just in case anyone forgot


:thumbsup:We do just pass to the sideline...anyway nice job O line
 
#7
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wow...ranked #1 in the same week that one of their members is caught with 3 chicks in his bed..can recruiting get any better??
 
#9
#9
It must be based on # of sacks given up. UT's run blocking is average.
 
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The offensive line has made tremendous improvement over the past several years, kudo's to the staff for that. Interesting that getting rid of Jimmy Ray Stephens coincided with the improvement. Imagine how good our DBs could be in a couple of years if we axed Slade (no offense to the guy, just doesn't seem to be a great coach).
 
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General Jack said:
The offensive line has made tremendous improvement over the past several years, kudo's to the staff for that. Interesting that getting rid of Jimmy Ray Stephens coincided with the improvement. Imagine how good our DBs could be in a couple of years if we axed Slade (no offense to the guy, just doesn't seem to be a great coach).
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This needs a small adjustment...

...The offensive line has made tremendous improvement over the past year...
 
#15
#15
Another year of growth, another year in the weight room, and these guys could really be something next year.

Foster must just grin morning to night... It's possible he not only breaks the rush record, but shatters it.
 
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orange+white=heaven said:
Another year of growth, another year in the weight room, and these guys could really be something next year.

Foster must just grin morning to night... It's possible he not only breaks the rush record, but shatters it.
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this isn't a good comparison, because the talent levels aren't the same, but after the 97 SEC title game i was in Buckhead at Dixie's and chad clifton and a few guys came in and of course, i bought him a drink as congratulations, and we began to talk. that was Jam's first year and i'll never forget his comment when i asked him about what he thought about next year, as he said "if you think we can run the ball this year, you just wait until next year, it's going to look like Nebraska with us".

at the time, i didn't put much in to it. just still really happy about that night's events.

a year later and watching travis henry and Jamal lewis steam roll the better part of the season and seeing that offensive line........whoa.

anyway.....plenty of wishful thinking that it could turn out that well, but we may see the same kind of jump in improvement from year to year......

hope so anyway.
 
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(Somehow I missed this the first time by)

The funny thing is that I never once looked at UT's line this year and thought "That's an impressive group!" Not one single time...I have no idea where a top 20 ranking would come from, but number 1? Are you serious?
 
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orange+white=heaven said:
This needs a small adjustment...

...The offensive line has made tremendous improvement over the past year...
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No, I meant what I said - years. Improvements with size and disclipline started after 2005.

Our O-linemen, particularly in 2003, we're so big they couldn't get out of their own way. In addition, they routinely committed false start penalties and had many holds. Those problems persisted through 2005 until JRS was let go and Cut came in... his discipline along with coach Greg Adkins tutelage improved the unit somewhat during 2006, and we really saw the dividends of the coaching staff changes in earnest for 2007.

Obviously the improvement in sacks allowed and ypc were most noticeable for 2007, but I really believe the improvement started before 2007.
 
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When 69% of your pass completions are 9 yds or less you are not going to get sacked very often..
 
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Ohio Vol said:
(Somehow I missed this the first time by)

The funny thing is that I never once looked at UT's line this year and thought "That's an impressive group!" Not one single time...I have no idea where a top 20 ranking would come from, but number 1? Are you serious?
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It's because we allowed so few sacks. Still, we couldn't run the ball in some big games. I'd think UGA's line might get some love for protecting Stafford and helping Moreno have a great first season. UF's line also allowed Tebow to set the SEC rushing TD record.
 
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General Jack said:
No, I meant what I said - years. Improvements with size and disclipline started after 2005.

Our O-linemen, particularly in 2003, we're so big they couldn't get out of their own way. In addition, they routinely committed false start penalties and had many holds. Those problems persisted through 2005 until JRS was let go and Cut came in... his discipline along with coach Greg Adkins tutelage improved the unit somewhat during 2006, and we really saw the dividends of the coaching staff changes in earnest for 2007.

Obviously the improvement in sacks allowed and ypc were most noticeable for 2007, but I really believe the improvement started before 2007.
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I honestly didn't see any real improvement from 2006 to 2007. I also haven't seen anything being coached since 1998 that makes me go "Yup, that's the way it's done!"

I don't know how many offensive line coaches have ever handled the defensive line as well; I think it should be a prerequisite. The reason I say this is because of the fact that well-coached defensive linemen are taught that a stalemate favors the defense, so the minimum goal for any play is a stalemate. The goal for my guys has always been a 95% stalemate ratio on an individual basis. The games where that was met were decisively in our favor in the running game and pass pressure, and the games where we faltered weren't pretty.

The reason this applies is because it means that the goal of the offensive line is to achieve a decisive victory in a single play against the guy he is supposed to block. There are certain ways of ensuring the maximum ability to forcibly drive your opponent from his position. This method is NOT "grab on under the armpits with the palms of your hands up and twist". This ensures stalemates rather than prevents them.
 
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Ohio Vol said:
I honestly didn't see any real improvement from 2006 to 2007. I also haven't seen anything being coached since 1998 that makes me go "Yup, that's the way it's done!"

I don't know how many offensive line coaches have ever handled the defensive line as well; I think it should be a prerequisite. The reason I say this is because of the fact that well-coached defensive linemen are taught that a stalemate favors the defense, so the minimum goal for any play is a stalemate. The goal for my guys has always been a 95% stalemate ratio on an individual basis. The games where that was met were decisively in our favor in the running game and pass pressure, and the games where we faltered weren't pretty.

The reason this applies is because it means that the goal of the offensive line is to achieve a decisive victory in a single play against the guy he is supposed to block. There are certain ways of ensuring the maximum ability to forcibly drive your opponent from his position. This method is NOT "grab on under the armpits with the palms of your hands up and twist". This ensures stalemates rather than prevents them.
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Good post, interesting stuff. I don't have the "hands-on" experience that you do, but from a layman's perspective, its appears to me that more recently the O-line has done a better job of creating holes for the RBs. I attribute much of this to the change in coaches (Stephens to Adkins) and change in mindset away from just growing our guys into mammoths. In '03 our think we averaged 330 accross the line, they guys had just gotten relatively immobile and were getting beat by quicker D-linemen.

To your point, wouldn't a stalemate be close to ideal for the passing game? Seems like that would prevent pressure on the QB.
 
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