CFB 'Brand' Index -- According to recruits

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87&91ALUM said:
Someone working on their master's degree. Some of the dumbest stuff to ever be generated came out of Master's thesis. Do you really think high school kids read this crap and it is a factor? No. Gimme a hundred studies like this and Bama is in 95% of them. Also, this study looks heavy titled to the views of the "yankee press". More of "I wish things were this way" than they really are. What was the sample size and makeup again?
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What? If you're currently working on a master's (not sure due to poor sentence structure and syntax) degree then you might want to shore up that sh*tty style and 86 the obvious bias in your statement. It might save you from having to submit that thesis 47 times.
Good luck...
 
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If the source of the survey is Jeremy Darlow, the SEC hate bias is obvious. The guy is from the Northwest.
 
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ACvol3 said:
Were they not alive during the Sandusky thing?
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Haha I noticed that immediately as well. A few years removed from systemic pedophilia complete with many many coverups on the way to exposure.....so yeah their brand being ranked #3 is certainly warranted.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
There are about 1.1 million high school football players (not "millions" as the article's author says, but still above a million). To get 242 of them to take part in a survey is at the lower end of credibility as a representative sample: 242 of 1.1 million = 0.02% (that's one-fiftieth of one percent). That puts the risk of getting the wrong answers up around 8%. That's even before you start considering how balanced the sample is regionally, socially, and so on.

So you can look at that two ways. The more accurate way is, this chart has an 8% chance of being wrong. The other way, less accurate but still arguable, is that 8% of the information in this chart is wrong. Following that angle, out of every 12 teams listed, one is in the wrong place.

Think Bama is really stronger than this shows? You could be right. Think there's no way Nebraska comes out that well with modern high school players? Yep, you might be right there, too.

And that's even if the 242 who responded are a good mix regionally and in other social, economic, ethnic, etc. ways. If they're not, it could be much worse than just 8% off. For instance, if the respondents are all Catholics, because the writer advertised his survey in Catholic Times Digest, that would explain Notre Dame being at 15 instead of 30 or 40. If they're all from New York and Pennsylvania, that would explain the ACC and B10 being favored in the responses.

Most likely, there's a regional bias built into the survey. That's hard to get right. But we'll never know, because the author doesn't report on the demographics of his sample.

Bottom line: the survey is interesting in the way a Reader's Digest article is interesting: wouldn't bank on it being right, but good fluff.
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OMG finally someone on a Vols message board that speaks my language. Over on the VQ, I try to use the same approach to tackle stupidity like "there are more 2 and 3 stars in the Super Bowl than 4 and 5...therefore stars don't matter", but it doesn't seem to take. How can anyone think they are truly evaluating anything objectively without analytical thinking and some general statistics knowledge.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
I'd take their smash mouth boring offense and shut down defense any damn day of the week.
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I would too.

But in the context of 17 and 18 year old kids that were polled it's probably pretty boring.

It'd be like asking a kid if he would rather have an SUV or a sports car as a first vehicle. Most of them are gonna go for the sports car.
 
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Roughly 3225 kids signing FBS LOIs. (129 schools in FBS, 25 recruits per school.)

224/3225 is a sampling of just under 7%.

With a subject group this small, the sampling should be around 33%. At least that’s what I’m reading on a few sites regarding “research.”
 
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vols1707 said:
Idk maybe, but remember Alabama is at the twilight of its dynasty run.

Plenty of dynasties in the history of college football. Recruits eventually get tired of the same schools and coaches talk the players away from that school that had their pick for years..

And Alabama lost a few recruiting battles this year. That didn't happen before
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It is hard to call a team that just won the national championship on its "twilight". Until someone beats them consistently, no one can claim they are in decline. Clemson has played them very well as of late but Alabama has won two out of the last three versus them. Not sure who you are referring to as dethroning them but UGA has to do it for more than one year before you crown them and they haven't beaten Bama in over a decade.
 
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xfactorutk said:
Alabama barely cracking the top-20 makes me feel like this isn't reputable.
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224 isn't much of a sample size, teen football recruits aren't exactly the most worldly or discriminating (when it comes to important stuff), and then you have the question of geographic distribution. When you read

"Stanford would have the best probability to land an academic-minded recruit over the likes of Duke, Georgia Tech, Vanderbilt, and Northwestern."

the probable effect of location and the much population dense locations like the left coast and northeast become obvious.
 
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87&91ALUM said:
Someone working on their master's degree. Some of the dumbest stuff to ever be generated came out of Master's thesis. Do you really think high school kids read this crap and it is a factor? No. Gimme a hundred studies like this and Bama is in 95% of them. Also, this study looks heavy titled to the views of the "yankee press". More of "I wish things were this way" than they really are. What was the sample size and makeup again?
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It's appalling what comes out of academia - between the "publish or perish" peril and underwhelming graduate theses - gotta do something ... anything to graduate. Academia with help from politicians has almost destroyed public education.
 
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JonGrudensAgent said:
I would too.

But in the context of 17 and 18 year old kids that were polled it's probably pretty boring.

It'd be like asking a kid if he would rather have an SUV or a sports car as a first vehicle. Most of them are gonna go for the sports car.
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Nope todays kids would take the SUV 10:1 :loco:
 
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This thing cat be accurate. Bama ma be reaching the end of an era but the kids know who they are.
 
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Well 224 recruits is far from an adequate sample.

Legit, if you went for a chi-squared GOF test assuming each school was equally likely you'd need 650 just as a approx (off the top of my head) to even remotely have a an appropriate sample size.:thumbsup:
 
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