CDT Transformation

#27
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calban said:
Please expound on where you think the upgrades are. I can only see one position. Chiles might be better than Barton.
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I used the word immediate. The players coming in can give us a better chance to win than what was left and what Martin had coming in with his recruiting class. I am not comparing this year's team to last year's team.
 
#28
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rickyb712 said:
so you don't think anyone coming in will be able to help us better then DT. And i am a DT fan thought he passed well but not a good shooter or ball handler. Maybe he looked nervous due to be a freshman
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I think DT's confidence, decision making, and skill would have increased dramatically from his freshmen year to his sophomore year. Especially once given the reins as the starter, but none of that matters now.
 
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calban said:
So fans will be okay with losing if it's exciting?
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Um no, but I promise you they aren't going to boycot a coach after he goes to the NCAA tournament the year before if he's half way exciting. Everyone knows we were going to be very bad next year with Zo, and odds are still very much against us of being a tournament team with CDT, but the difference now is CDT has brought energy to the the program. My point is, if you are going to lose then at least lose playing entertaining basketball. Zo's down fall was he lost games he shouldn't have, but fans would have supported him more had his style of basketball not been so lethargic. I'm willing to take this as far as saying Zo would still be here had his style of play been more energizing I.e. pressing, more uptempo, etc.
 
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keckjm said:
Um no, but I promise you they aren't going to boycot a coach after he goes to the NCAA tournament the year before if he's half way exciting. Everyone knows we were going to be very bad next year with Zo, and odds are still very much against us of being a tournament team with CDT, but the difference now is CDT has brought energy to the the program. My point is, if you are going to lose then at least lose playing entertaining basketball. Zo's down fall was he lost games he shouldn't have, but fans would have supported him more had his style of basketball not been so lethargic. I'm willing to take this as far as saying Zo would still be here had his still of play been more energizing I.e. pressing, more uptempo, etc.
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I think you're right. Just hoping our fickle fans don't go south on donnie if things don't pan out the first season.
This is going to be tough.
 
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calban said:
So fans will be okay with losing if it's exciting?
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Not in the long run, but business is business. Losing an exciting game that is high flying and intense brings entertainment and business. Barely eking it out against inferior opponents playing boring and low intensity basketball is bad for business. You can't even get clients to go. Trust me. Some had their boxes shut down last year because people didn't want to go and it wasn't worth a food and bev tab to open.
 
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calban said:
Please expound on where you think the upgrades are. I can only see one position. Chiles might be better than Barton.
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You don't think Mostella is better than Austin? You don't think Punter is better than Cornish (he's at least more proven)? You don't think anyone is better than Turman?

The only guy that I think the upgrade is questionable so far is Cofer. And when we get Owens, that's at worst a wash.

Again, this is all on paper. There's no telling how good a guy turns out to be. But based on the way people rank classes and players prior to their being at UT, we're upgrading pretty much across the board.
 
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calban said:
I think you're right. Just hoping our fickle fans don't go south on donnie if things don't pan out the first season.
This is going to be tough.
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It'll be very tough. If Owens commits that will give us two freshman that I think can give us valuable mins. Other then that, we are going to be relying on JuCo players, Zo's players, and graduate transfers to win us games.
 
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I guess you would have to say entitlement is gone on our BB team, now its time to play had.

Stokes and others played lazy in some of the games we lost..

I dont think we will see a no non sense team ready to work..
 
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Spartacavolus said:
Not in the long run, but business is business. Losing an exciting game that is high flying and intense brings entertainment and business. Barely eking it out against inferior opponents playing boring and low intensity basketball is bad for business. You can't even get clients to go. Trust me. Some had their boxes shut down last year because people didn't want to go and it wasn't worth a food and bev tab to open.
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BINGO! Nail on the head!:clapping:
 
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NYC Vol said:
You don't think Mostella is better than Austin? You don't think Punter is better than Cornish (he's at least more proven)? You don't think anyone is better than Turman?

The only guy that I think the upgrade is questionable so far is Cofer. And when we get Owens, that's at worst a wash.

Again, this is all on paper. There's no telling how good a guy turns out to be. But based on the way people rank classes and players prior to their being at UT, we're upgrading pretty much across the board.
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I agree. But I believe the biggest upgrade will be in how these players are utilized on the floor. And Sparty makes a great point, the intensity level alone will make a huge difference.
 
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CAVol said:
100% agree with that last sentence. The more I think about it the more I think we will start Chiles, Hubbs, Jrich, Moore and McKnight with Mostella as a spark plug off the bench.
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Yup, unless Mostella proves he can play the point which would be pretty awesome.

I think the 11-13 spots is where the big improvement is, instead of Q, Edwards and Pops at the end of the bench you've got guys like Baulkman, McGhee and Carmichael.
 
#41
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What CDT has done at his other stops has been awesome, so I think the biggest upgrade out of all this won't will be with the players, it'll be with the head coaching position.
 
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#42
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keckjm said:
It'll be very tough. If Owens commits that will give us two freshman that I think can give us valuable mins. Other then that, we are going to be relying on JuCo players, Zo's players, and graduate transfers to win us games.
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Last year they were relying on CBP's players (McRae and Maymon) and grad transfer (Barton). While not ideal, its not a guarantee for a bad season.
 
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If you drill down to a very technical level, like draft scouting level, there's just too much unknown to say for sure at this point if we are better off or not. Well, with players anyway, but with coaching there is simply no doubt that we are much better off.

But forgetting the technical speculation, next year's team certainly has more potential that it would have prior to Brother Donnie's Month-long Revival. And it seems to be me that we have more scorers now, which reduces the likelihood of having to watch that slow-flow crap with the heavy focus on half-court defense and the occcasional accidental scoring (only after runnign the shot clock of course). I want us to go back to the fast-paced risk-taking and exciting style of play. A win is a win, but there is a difference when i am watching it...
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There's no way we see a worse coached/prepared/motivated team.. That's something we can be sure of.
 
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