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I believe that Barnes will NEVER have as good a record here as Donnie Tyndall had. However, Tyndall brought the baggage that spelled his doom, and had he not, the upcoming roster would include Chris Clark, Shembari Phillips, Admiral Schoefield, and probably some other talent that we would have been eager to back.

Barnes will have to prepare for 13 different opponents in the SEC, whereas he only had 9 opponents in the "big 12", a name which makes no sense!

IMO, Tyndall is by far a better "on court" tactician and a younger recruiter who had the likes of Romello White committed for 2016. But, again, history did not work out in his or our favor.

Hart was too impulsive when he hired Barnes. JMO.
 
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buzz4tennessee said:
I believe that Barnes will NEVER have as good a record here as Donnie Tyndall had. However, Tyndall brought the baggage that spelled his doom, and had he not, the upcoming roster would include Chris Clark, Shembari Phillips, Admiral Schoefield, and probably some other talent that we would have been eager to back.

Barnes will have to prepare for 13 different opponents in the SEC, whereas he only had 9 opponents in the "big 12", a name which makes no sense!

IMO, Tyndall is by far a better "on court" tactician and a younger recruiter who had the likes of Romello White committed for 2016. But, again, history did not work out in his or our favor.

Hart was too impulsive when he hired Barnes. JMO.
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buzz4tennessee said:
I believe that Barnes will NEVER have as good a record here as Donnie Tyndall had. However, Tyndall brought the baggage that spelled his doom, and had he not, the upcoming roster would include Chris Clark, Shembari Phillips, Admiral Schoefield, and probably some other talent that we would have been eager to back.

Barnes will have to prepare for 13 different opponents in the SEC, whereas he only had 9 opponents in the "big 12", a name which makes no sense!

IMO, Tyndall is by far a better "on court" tactician and a younger recruiter who had the likes of Romello White committed for 2016. But, again, history did not work out in his or our favor.

Hart was too impulsive when he hired Barnes. JMO.
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let's see. tyndall .500.
Barnes will better that his first season.
 
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buzz4tennessee said:
I believe that Barnes will NEVER have as good a record here as Donnie Tyndall had. However, Tyndall brought the baggage that spelled his doom, and had he not, the upcoming roster would include Chris Clark, Shembari Phillips, Admiral Schoefield, and probably some other talent that we would have been eager to back.

Barnes will have to prepare for 13 different opponents in the SEC, whereas he only had 9 opponents in the "big 12", a name which makes no sense!

IMO, Tyndall is by far a better "on court" tactician and a younger recruiter who had the likes of Romello White committed for 2016. But, again, history did not work out in his or our favor.

Hart was too impulsive when he hired Barnes. JMO.
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Embarrassing. As in, I legitimately feel sorry for you when I read that. I have no idea how I would handle it if I was so ignorant to believe myself typing that nonsense.

Persistence is impressive though.
 
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therickbol said:
Embarrassing. As in, I legitimately feel sorry for you when I read that. I have no idea how I would handle it if I was so ignorant to believe myself typing that nonsense.

Persistence is impressive though.
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I would've like this more than once if it was possible.
 
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CWEBB82 said:
UT was ranked 11th best in SEC per CBS Rankings

Complete SEC & National Rankings for SEC Teams:

UK - 1st SEC; 2nd Nat'l
Vandy - 2nd SEC; 22 Nat'l
TA&M - 3rd SEC; 27 Nat'l
LSU - 4th SEC; 38 Nat'l
UGA - 5th SEC; 47 Nat'l
Florida - 6th SEC; 55 Nat'l
Ole Miss - 7th SEC; 68 Nat'l
USCe - 8th SEC; 72 Nat'l
Auburn - 9th SEC; 81 Nat'l
Arkansas - 10th SEC; 84 Nat'l
Tennessee - 11th SEC; 104 Nat'l
Miss St - 12th SEC; 114 Nat'l
Bama - 13th SEC; 146 Nat'l
Mizzou - 14th SEC; 155 Nat'l
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thats some weak sauce for the SEC. We normally have a few more in top 25.
 
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CWEBB82 said:
UT was ranked 11th best in SEC per CBS Rankings

Complete SEC & National Rankings for SEC Teams:

UK - 1st SEC; 2nd Nat'l
Vandy - 2nd SEC; 22 Nat'l
TA&M - 3rd SEC; 27 Nat'l
LSU - 4th SEC; 38 Nat'l
UGA - 5th SEC; 47 Nat'l
Florida - 6th SEC; 55 Nat'l
Ole Miss - 7th SEC; 68 Nat'l
USCe - 8th SEC; 72 Nat'l
Auburn - 9th SEC; 81 Nat'l
Arkansas - 10th SEC; 84 Nat'l
Tennessee - 11th SEC; 104 Nat'l
Miss St - 12th SEC; 114 Nat'l
Bama - 13th SEC; 146 Nat'l
Mizzou - 14th SEC; 155 Nat'l
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2 teams in top 25 in a 14 team league is pathetic. I guess that is good though, maybe we can get a few more wins and make us look better.
 
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calban said:
let's see. tyndall .500.
Barnes will better that his first season.
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Dream on! Next March I will be glad to compare your prediction with the one that I have made.

Only 1 comparison to last season. Tyndall, with a makeshift lineup, defeated Butler by 12 pts. on an unbelievable comeback. Barnes lost by 10 to the same team, straight up, while having a far superior lineup, as most would agree.
 
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buzz4tennessee said:
Dream on! Next March I will be glad to compare your prediction with the one that I have made.

Only 1 comparison to last season. Tyndall, with a makeshift lineup, defeated Butler by 12 pts. on an unbelievable comeback. Barnes lost by 10 to the same team, straight up, while having a far superior lineup, as most would agree.
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How about you look at the body of work of a coach that made the tournament at every school he coached at, and all but one year at Texas, who by the way was not good at basketball before him. He was basically predicted to have the worst Clemson team ever and made the tourny. Jesus you could not sound more ignorant and uninformed about basketball. While this year may not be great to think Tyndall is a better coach than Barnes is comical and just flat out wrong.
 
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buzz4tennessee said:
Dream on! Next March I will be glad to compare your prediction with the one that I have made.

Only 1 comparison to last season. Tyndall, with a makeshift lineup, defeated Butler by 12 pts. on an unbelievable comeback. Barnes lost by 10 to the same team, straight up, while having a far superior lineup, as most would agree.
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You judge an entire career by one game?
Now that's scientific.
 
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The more I read about Barnes, the more I believe he's done his best work with the underwhelming rosters he had at Providence, clemson and early Texas.
The following is a long detailed read that supports that premise.
For those that think he's just washed up, you may also find some fuel for your fires.
A technical read for the technical guys.


Rick Barnes' Future At Texas: Is It Time To Make A Change? - Burnt Orange Nation
 
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RockyTop22 said:
How about you look at the body of work of a coach that made the tournament at every school he coached at, and all but one year at Texas, who by the way was not good at basketball before him. He was basically predicted to have the worst Clemson team ever and made the tourny. Jesus you could not sound more ignorant and uninformed about basketball. While this year may not be great to think Tyndall is a better coach than Barnes is comical and just flat out wrong.
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If Tyndall would have had the luxury of coaching in a power 5 conference all of his career, then, I believe that his number of visits would have not only equaled Barnes number, but his teams would have made deeper runs most times. Barnes teams only received one automatic invite, while Tyndall coached teams that earned their way into the postseason twice when only one team was allowed to go from their league.

Let me remind you, and any others who would like to bring this up, I do realize that Tyndall broke NCAA rules at USM and is currently not allowed to serve as a head coach. What has the NCAA said as to when this suspension will be lifted?

One thing is for sure, Donnie did nothing to harm the UT program while he was here!
 
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RockyTop22 said:
How about you look at the body of work of a coach that made the tournament at every school he coached at, and all but one year at Texas, who by the way was not good at basketball before him. He was basically predicted to have the worst Clemson team ever and made the tourny. Jesus you could not sound more ignorant and uninformed about basketball. While this year may not be great to think Tyndall is a better coach than Barnes is comical and just flat out wrong.
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Waste.Of.Breath. Save your energy. You are attempting to use logic in a discussion with an individual that has no use for logic.
 
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buzz4tennessee said:
If Tyndall would have had the luxury of coaching in a power 5 conference all of his career, then, I believe that his number of visits would have not only equaled Barnes number, but his teams would have made deeper runs most times. Barnes teams only received one automatic invite, while Tyndall coached teams that earned their way into the postseason twice when only one team was allowed to go from their league.

Let me remind you, and any others who would like to bring this up, I do realize that Tyndall broke NCAA rules at USM and is currently not allowed to serve as a head coach. What has the NCAA said as to when this suspension will be lifted?

One thing is for sure, Donnie did nothing to harm the UT program while he was here!
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I wonder if people at Morehead State and So. Miss said the same right after Dirty Donnie left.
 
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Ace said:
I wonder if people at Morehead State and So. Miss said the same right after Dirty Donnie left.
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I am still unsure as to what happened at Morehead St., but I know that Tyndall was not given any personal punishment by the NCAA. We all have seen the events that transpired at USM, but we still do not know the extent of any punishment that the NCAA is going to lay down in this matter.

However, my post addressed what can be expected from Rick Barnes over the next 5 years. Will he be the second coming of Bruce Pearl's coaching prowess or will his teams be more comparable to Steve Spurrier's slide to gloom and doom?

One thing that I appreciate about your posts is that you bring up contentions about a post that you disagree with and not an attack on the poster.

This is unlike the previous poster who, immaturely, has nothing to refute about the post that he disagrees with, but instead throws insults at the poster that he disagrees with. I have zero respect for one who converses in this manner!
 
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buzz4tennessee said:
I am still unsure as to what happened at Morehead St., but I know that Tyndall was not given any personal punishment by the NCAA. We all have seen the events that transpired at USM, but we still do not know the extent of any punishment that the NCAA is going to lay down in this matter.

However, my post addressed what can be expected from Rick Barnes over the next 5 years. Will he be the second coming of Bruce Pearl's coaching prowess or will his teams be more comparable to Steve Spurrier's slide to gloom and doom?

One thing that I appreciate about your posts is that you bring up contentions about a post that you disagree with and not an attack on the poster.

This is unlike the previous poster who, immaturely, has nothing to refute about the post that he disagrees with, but instead throws insults at the poster that he disagrees with. I have zero respect for one who converses in this manner!
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yes, I have no contention with you. I just hope everything was clean at UT with CDT.
 
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What most seem to be saying is that we lost Josh and basically none of Punter, Hubbs, Mostella, Moore, etc. have improved at all. If any of these guys are 25 percent better then they will be able to take up the slack for what Josh gave us. Second I do believe that Kasonga, McGhee, and Alexander are better than Owens, and Carmichael. So we'll see what goes down this season.
The predictors can only be right if none of the returning players have improved their game and the inside players are worse than what we have last year. This being if Barnes is as good a coach as Tyndall.
I believe we got a shot at something like 17 and 14 and a NIT bid.

The best ranking I could find for us was a College sports Madness where were number 80 and number 8 in the SEC this seems very realistic to me.


#80 Tennessee Men's Basketball 2015-2016 Preview | College Sports Madness
 
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Volfan2012 said:
What most seem to be saying is that we lost Josh and basically none of Punter, Hubbs, Mostella, Moore, etc. have improved at all. If any of these guys are 25 percent better then they will be able to take up the slack for what Josh gave us. Second I do believe that Kasonga, McGhee, and Alexander are better than Owens, and Carmichael. So we'll see what goes down this season.
The predictors can only be right if none of the returning players have improved their game and the inside players are worse than what we have last year. This being if Barnes is as good a coach as Tyndall.
I believe we got a shot at something like 17 and 14 and a NIT bid.

The best ranking I could find for us was a College sports Madness where were number 80 and number 8 in the SEC this seems very realistic to me.


#80 Tennessee Men's Basketball 2015-2016 Preview | College Sports Madness
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Who has said that? Punter changed his shot, whose now even more accurate (was a 35% 3 pt shooter already), and he also improved ball handling, driving to the basket and he is quoted as saying he worked on "literally everything".

Mostella appears to be the breakout offensive player and has been dominant in scrimmages.

Armani apparently revamped his ball handling.

Hadn't heard anything on Hubbs' improvement.
 
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#49
These rankings are utterly useless...has no effect on the season and is rarely correct with the exception of picking a clear winner to win it all...which is usually fairly obvious...
 
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buzz4tennessee said:
I believe that Barnes will NEVER have as good a record here as Donnie Tyndall had. However, Tyndall brought the baggage that spelled his doom, and had he not, the upcoming roster would include Chris Clark, Shembari Phillips, Admiral Schoefield, and probably some other talent that we would have been eager to back.

Barnes will have to prepare for 13 different opponents in the SEC, whereas he only had 9 opponents in the "big 12", a name which makes no sense!

IMO, Tyndall is by far a better "on court" tactician and a younger recruiter who had the likes of Romello White committed for 2016. But, again, history did not work out in his or our favor.

Hart was too impulsive when he hired Barnes. JMO.
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The Big 12 is a better basketball league than the SEC (SEC=more wins). Also you dont have to play the top teams twice (Kansas, Oklahoma, Iowa St, and more.) Not only that when you play each team twice, the second game is harder to win because your opponent knows how to exploit your weakness with his players. To your on court technical, schemes, while important, are just ideas. Every play has a counter it's just some are harder to beat than another.
 
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