CBJ Wednesday Presser

#76
#76
JMSqb11 said:
That's not true. 2 of his interceptions were drops that deflected right to the defense (Callaway admittedly ran route 3 yards too short vs Florida / Palmer on the go route dropped ball vs UGA).

One interception came on a goal line slant route that Palmer gave up on. That was also 2 plays after Palmer dropped a TD pass in the endzone. (Make that TD Catch and no following pick happens)

The Indy State pick in the endzone was from the 10-15 yard line.

Only 2 picks occured on short routes close to the line of scrimmage and that was first play vs UGA and the first pick vs Florida to the Chandler.



Did you even watch the games?


Regardless, our QB's suck because of poor receiver play so far this season. Josh Malone leaving to go pro and Jennings getting hurt vs Georgia Tech were huge losses for us. If we had those two guys still around, our QB play would be a few touchdowns better and a few picks lesser.
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Don't expect John to pay attention to facts. He has a narrative to run... and those facts just don't have a home.
 
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#77
#77
lexkyvol said:
Finally...instead of pretending to ride the fence.....your true feelings have come out. Ur a dormady fan who doesn't want to look wrong if JG plays well, which is why you said even if he does well the last 5 games basically.
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:lolabove::lolabove::lolabove: Your reasoning ability and knowledge of football is only matched by your reading comprehension.

If JG plays better from here on out then it will NOT prove that he was the best choice to start the season CONSIDERING how Jones mismanaged the QB battle. You KNOW that I have said multiple times that if Jones wanted JG to start he should have made that decision early and spent the last 8 months getting him ready. He didn't. He had a sham of a "competition" that didn't produce the winner he wanted. Both QB's are victims of Jones' lack of spine and judgment.

JG could have been playing and playing well all year. But they had to invest time in him and wrapping the O around the things he could do well. Jones didn't do that. He expected JG to develop fast enough to overtake QD.... which didn't happen.

For that matter, Jones could have admitted QD had won the battle and let Scott incorporate more under the center plays like he talked frequently about doing and maybe things would have gone better for QD. That didn't happen either.

What a joke! BTW, what game has JG qb'd us to zero points? final score of zero
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Speaking of "jokes"... you're now giving JG credit because of a pick 6 by the D? That IS a joke.
 
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PS- what I'm saying isn't rocket science. Coaches all over college football assess the talent at a position and focus on the guy they think has the highest potential even if they aren't better at the start. If Jones was that determined to have JG then he should have been honest with both guys and let the chips fall.
 
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sjt18 said:
Hope so... but he hasn't been "just fine" so far. The O has been worse than anemic with him at QB.

You STILL haven't proven that Dormady stared down receivers.... and as far as "forcing bad throws"... they haven't let JG come close to those risks or decisions. He's running a playbook designed to have very low risks to keep him from losing games.

That's so obvious even you should see it.

Maybe they open the playbook up for him more this week so we see if he's better than QD with these receivers... but honestly I don't look for it.

Sure. Two losses with one to one of the worst teams in the SEC. Less than 90 ypg passing. One INT and no TD's. Under 4 yds per attempt.... to go with 28 rushes for -14 yds.

By your "expert" opinion... that's just "fine", right? In the 5 games started by Dormady including the terrible UGA game... UT avg'd 333 ypg and 24 ppg. Very, very weak numbers. They scored 16 TD's which again is bad.

Since JG took over... they've avgd 4.5 ppg... 181 ypg.

If you take Bama out... then UT's performance behind USCe of 253 yds and 9 points is second worst only to UGA. But that's "just fine" according to you, right?

What does it mean? In part it means they took more chances with QD and as a result UT scored 114 points behind QD in roughly 16 qtrs. and 23 behind JG in about 12 qtrs. of playing time.

If you really need to see it then I'll take the 15 minutes or so to give you the points per possession or points per play when each guy was in the game.

I am not against JG. He's doing what he's able to do and what they allow him to do. I am against YOU and the others who are making a career of trashing Dormady for no reason other than your own pride and desire to "be right".

If that were not the case... you'd acknowledge that Dormady was given more of the O to run and was allowed to throw riskier passes... and was therefore hurt more by poor WR play than JG has been so far. But you aren't looking to judge them by a fair and equitable standard. Your agenda is to prove that JG is and was the best choice to start.

PS- Did you mean to say turnovers or INT's?

Yeah. You make it WAY too obvious that you thought JG should start.... you wanted him to start... you would see no good that QD did. And now that JG is starting and not producing... somehow you think it makes you "right" to continue trashing Dormady.


Trashing a guy then adding "JMO"... doesn't cut it.

JG is a very talented young guy. He hasn't produced. I don't think that's his fault... and it certainly doesn't make him "average at best" considering how much more QD produced than he has.
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2 of QD's games/stats were against ISU and UMass.

How has he done against SEC competition?

26-55 1 TD 5 INT -3 RUSH
 
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#81
Neither QB was prepared to play against real SEC competition and lets not talk about the receivers and the O line goodness. I don't care which one of them starts or what their stats are because in the end the most "quality" win we can speak of is against Georgia Tech and that is failing at the highest rate by Tennessee standards. Great kids with bad preparation still make losers in the end once you take out the participation trophies.

Hopefully for the sake of the players this changes before next year.
 
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37L1 said:
2 of QD's games/stats were against ISU and UMass.

How has he done against SEC competition?
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Don’t bring facts up to sjt he will just write 16 paragraphs explaining why those facts make you biased. He clearly hasn’t learned of concision at all.
 
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johnrlansford said:
Barring an Injury JG starts the rest of the way and will be just fine. Jg hasn't forced bad throws, thrown into double coverage, or stared down his receivers. JG is doing fine, Dormady not so much! 8 Turnovers for QD and 1 for JG you do the math on what ready means! Atleast JG protects the football!

It is never about supporting 1 guy over the other, they are both Vols i want to see whoever plays succeed but Dormady hasn't done that!

Dormady is a average QB at best, I personally think he has hit his ceiling as a QB. JG hasn't even scratched the surface of his talent! Only Time will tell who will be the better QB at Tennessee, but i think it is JG. JMO!
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No, what JG has done is sit in the pocket, have no idea where to go with the ball, have no internal clock, and get sacked 12-13 times so far in limited play.

And I don’t know what you think you’ve seen from JG at this point to declare that he hasn’t even scratched the surface of his talent. I’ve seen a tough kid with a strong arm and that’s just about it. He’s shown nothing, thus far, that shows he has a high enough ceiling to grow into a top notch SEC QB. I sure hope he does, that the next head coach and staff is competent and can help him develop. But to post on here right now that he’s a stud in waiting given what we’ve seen of him at this point is engaging in willful suspension of disbelief.
 
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#87
Darrell Taylor remains suspended, he was available for a portion of practice yesterday, he stepped on four peoples faces and threw 17 punches.
 
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sjt18 said:
:lolabove::lolabove::lolabove: Your reasoning ability and knowledge of football is only matched by your reading comprehension.

If JG plays better from here on out then it will NOT prove that he was the best choice to start the season CONSIDERING how Jones mismanaged the QB battle. You KNOW that I have said multiple times that if Jones wanted JG to start he should have made that decision early and spent the last 8 months getting him ready. He didn't. He had a sham of a "competition" that didn't produce the winner he wanted. Both QB's are victims of Jones' lack of spine and judgment.

JG could have been playing and playing well all year. But they had to invest time in him and wrapping the O around the things he could do well. Jones didn't do that. He expected JG to develop fast enough to overtake QD.... which didn't happen.

For that matter, Jones could have admitted QD had won the battle and let Scott incorporate more under the center plays like he talked frequently about doing and maybe things would have gone better for QD. That didn't happen either.


Speaking of "jokes"... you're now giving JG credit because of a pick 6 by the D? That IS a joke.
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Wow! So many words....so little substance
 
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KBVol said:
No, what JG has done is sit in the pocket, have no idea where to go with the ball, have no internal clock, and get sacked 12-13 times so far in limited play.

And I don’t know what you think you’ve seen from JG at this point to declare that he hasn’t even scratched the surface of his talent. I’ve seen a tough kid with a strong arm and that’s just about it. He’s shown nothing, thus far, that shows he has a high enough ceiling to grow into a top notch SEC QB. I sure hope he does, that the next head coach and staff is competent and can help him develop. But to post on here right now that he’s a stud in waiting given what we’ve seen of him at this point is engaging in willful suspension of disbelief.
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I've seen enough from JG to know that he is already a better pass than Hurts and if he had the coaching and supporting cast of Hurts at wr and oline, it wouldn't even be close.
 
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Nationdom said:
I've seen enough from JG to know that he is already a better pass than Hurts and if he had the coaching and supporting cast of Hurts at wr and oline, it wouldn't even be close.
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The only passing detail that he is better than Hurts is swing and screen passes.

To say JG is a better passer than Hurts is crazy talk. The only non screen/swing pass JG has made was against South Carolina’s prevent defense.
 
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Nationdom said:
I've seen enough from JG to know that he is already a better pass than Hurts and if he had the coaching and supporting cast of Hurts at wr and oline, it wouldn't even be close.
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That ain’t saying much. Also, be more specific. Better, stronger arm? Yeah, I’d buy that. Better pass(er)? Nah, nothing you can point to from JG at this point proves that.
 
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To sum up the presser. "We are young and we have the injury bug. Everyone had their best week of practice for the year! Stop asking me about Evan Berry." I am embarrassed to wear orange in Colorado and this is Pac12/Big13.5 country.
 
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