Cbj overrated???

#53
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ASTRO DOBBS said:
Yes, but in his defence he's not from the SEC so we should have known his coaching style would be way different .

But he's a outstanding recruiter and for that reason I'm glad to have him at UT and I believe he will either get better as a Sec coach or he will not.

With out him we would be in terrible shape.
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what good is being a great recruiter if you suck so bad as a coach you give games away.
 
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#56
He worries so much about a team coming back that he let's them come back. He doesn't know what he's doing. You think for one minute Kingsbury, Cutcliff, Freeze and those types would've let off of the gas you're fooling yourself. Butch seems to be learning on the job and that's not good. I never put to much stock into Dooley beating Butch but I'm starting to wonder.
 
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Flipdaddy said:
He worries so much about a team coming back that he let's them come back. He doesn't know what he's doing. You think for one minute Kingsbury, Cutcliff, Freeze and those types would've let off of the gas you're fooling yourself. Butch seems to be learning on the job and that's not good. I never put to much stock into Dooley beating Butch but I'm starting to wonder.
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He's had two "minor league" football stops to learn on the job.

He shouldn't be learning to manage the game clock in the SEC.

Totally unacceptable.
 
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There are a lot of “coaches” out there who don’t have CLUE ONE about how to really coach! These individuals consistently do far more damage to athletes than they do good.

They tear down self-esteem rather than build it up. They create an extremely unsafe learning environment for their athletes. They use fear, humiliation and demeaning, disrespectful behaviors as “teaching” tools. They are emotionally and sometimes indirectly (or directly) physically abusive. They directly and indirectly pressure athletes to continue to play when injured. They regularly kill the fun and passion that their athletes once had for the sport. These coaches have lost their way and stray terribly far from the true mission of coaching a winning program.

You’re NOT a good coach when you call an athlete out in front of the team and tell that athlete with an out-of-control red faced demeanor that, “You absolutely suck! You’re the worst MFer I know, I hope you burn in hell! Get the F off my team!” You’re NOT a good coach when you see an athlete get physically hurt and yell out, “You deserved that you loafing MFer.”

How are these kind of a comments constructive? Does it help our athletes understand exactly what he is doing wrong and what he needs to do to fix it and improve? How does it help? Does it motivate an individual to want to work even harder to improve? Does it help that individual feel good about themselves? Does it cause the athlete to give you more effort?

You’re NOT a good coach if you think that your most important job as a coach is to impress the media, see yourself on camera and stir social media.

I don’t care what kind of ego you have your job is to coach not just give speeches!

Bad Coaches who mistreat elite athletes will never build a winning program. That type of coach will cause many elite athletes to leave his program.

Bad Head Coaches who throw drink cups, kick over chairs and call staffers MFers during staff meetings will never earn the respect of their staffers but will instead cause those staffers to talk about the Head Coach behind his back, especially if the problem is the-man-in-the-mirror.
 
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Other_Guy said:
Dude you've got to be.kidding me.

Last year everyone whined about Jake that he threw too much and couldn't run.

Now we're.running all over people and we're still.complaining??? Geez!
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I would love some balance between run and pass.
 
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HoptownVol said:
Spurrier is the only coach "from" the SEC.
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So, you had to be a player in the SEC to be "from the SEC" as a headcoach? Iirc, Spurrier's first collegiate head coaching job as in the ACC at Duke, so, coaching wise, isn't he "of the ACC"? How far are we going back?
 
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You guys are killing me. A LOT of you "Butch Gets It" posters are now saying you knew all along that he wasn't the coach many thought he was.
 
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The Tall Gguy said:
You guys are killing me. A LOT of you "Butch Gets It" posters are now saying you knew all along that he wasn't the coach many thought he was.
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Butch is perplexing...he recruits top 5 talent, but he is under .500 SO FAR with it. I like him, but the team should improve from last year by at least a game. That's not unreasonable. He wont be fired for not winning 8 games, but I think even he would agree that his roster is good enough to do it.
I'm starting to look more at the poor 4th qtr D specifically as the main issue and less CBJ personally. We are 4th in the SEC in offense, even with the subpar passing game. We are 12th (LAST) on defense! I know we are missing some guys and have played some potent offenses, but last in the same conference as Auburn, SC and Vandy right now is just bad. :blink:
 
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Listening to Dave Bartoo of CFBMatrix on Stillman's show in Nashville. Said his analytics show Butch as an underperforming coach, -1, said when you factor everything in, no difference between him and Dooley at this point in terms of coaching results. Ouch.
 
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His coaching mistakes are indefensible....but somehow he defends them.

Should he be fired , no. Hopefully he will learn from his mistakes, but I don't think he will....He's very stubborn and feels he has made no coaching mistakes.

Most of us like the guy and didn't want this to happen. Maybe he will turn it around.
 
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ASTRO DOBBS said:
Yes, but in his defence he's not from the SEC so we should have known his coaching style would be way different .

But he's a outstanding recruiter and for that reason I'm glad to have him at UT and I believe he will either get better as a Sec coach or he will not.

With out him we would be in terrible shape.
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Dont worry he'll be at Tennessee until 2021. That could be extended if he learns SEC football. AD may have to force him to make staff changes. We know he will not fire.:)
 
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Butch Jones has ruined a very, very good thing. Didn't see this coming at all, but it has. Hes got a HUGE hole to dig out of...hope he does it! Lose Saturday and the heat is REALLY on Butchy!
 
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UTVolWarrior98 said:
Butch Jones has ruined a very, very good thing. Didn't see this coming at all, but it has. Hes got a HUGE hole to dig out of...hope he does it! Lose Saturday and the heat is REALLY on Butchy!
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If we lose Saturday playing sound football, with logical football decsions, it will be bad enough...If we lose by doing the same bizarre things again, this board will melt down.
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Here's to opening Arkansas doesn't take advantage of the huge letdown we just experienced.

I couldn't take a loss, I don't think VolNation could take a loss, and I don't think this team could recover from a loss Saturday.
 
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The Tall Gguy said:
Here's to opening Arkansas doesn't take advantage of the huge letdown we just experienced.

I couldn't take a loss, I don't think VolNation could take a loss, and I don't think this team could recover from a loss Saturday.
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...not with UGA, Bama and an improved UK team on the road looming.
 
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He can't be overrated because he never has had a rating to start with. Vol fans had high expectations for certain, but the man can't coach, and hires poor assistants. He is certainly an underachiever based on his record. This will not get any better during his tenure at Tennessee.
 
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KBVol said:
Listening to Dave Bartoo of CFBMatrix on Stillman's show in Nashville. Said his analytics show Butch as an underperforming coach, -1, said when you factor everything in, no difference between him and Dooley at this point in terms of coaching results. Ouch.
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And CBJ's has had better talent in his tenure....
 
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