CBJ Kicks Off Fall Camp with 11:30 LIVE Presser

[KBVol]

I mostly agree with your point and the other guy who made the argument about how he would gain nothing and so forth. Mostly.

I'm not asking him to hold a presser and rehash and explain it. I would like to see him not dodge the question when it's asked directly. Something along the lines of "Yea looking back sometimes mistakes get made in the heat of the moment and just like the players improve the coaches have to improve"

It's not breaking news. Anyone with half a brain (So almost 32 posters on volnation) knows that it was a clear cut error. It's not subjective like, "Oh, he ran it up the middle or got predictable"

It just sits wrong with me. I guess what brought it back up in my mind was the recent talking point about Jalen Reeves Maybin showing the lowlight video of Vols' errors during the season and leading off with his own.

Again, I hope with his own team he has admitted the error.

Well said. Couldn't agree more. Just own it and move on....I'd respect him more. On balance, far, far more good with Butch than bad. I just share the same pet peeve.

 

[08Vol]

"Worst case scenario" is trying to make it an two-touchdown game and is unsuccessful? Gimme an break dude, everyone and their brother knows Butch shoulda went for two. Kicking an PAT or missing the two point conversion has same result if gators score two TDs. At least converting the two point conversion puts your team in an position to win it in overtime, regardless of home field advantage or momentum. Butch will never admit that he screwed up. Go vols

THANK YOU. Sometimes I think people are taking crazy pills around here. With 10 minutes to go Butch was concerned that UF would score a TD and 2 field goals? Seriously? UF's kicker was hot garbage last year, everyone knew that going into the game. With 10 minutes to go you have to assume UF is only going to get the ball twice or need an onside kick for a 3rd possession. Teams had been tearing us apart on 4th down so you had to assume they would play for the 2 TDs with so little time remaining.

 

[TN Outlaw]

Well said. Couldn't agree more. Just own it and move on....I'd respect him more. On balance, far, far more good with Butch than bad. I just share the same pet peeve.

I know what you mean KB and I was talking about it earlier and figured with it being in the past as much as I feel he should've admitted blame right after it happened that now it would prob be best to not stir the pile so to speak.

Thought about it some more and I went back and watched the presser again and I think he said as much. Just in his own way.

He's not gona come out and say "hey guys, I really screwed up back there" but he said things along the lines of we went back and reviewed what we did and learned from it. It's all about learning from your previous experiences and how can you be better about it but when you make decisions a lot goes into it and you feel confident it's the right decision and that you will execute.

I take it Butch is saying, knowing our football team I was confident we could hold Fla again like we had been all day but it didn't work out that way and we've reviewed what decisions we made and learned from them to try and be better in the future.

That's as close as he will come to admitting it without admitting it IMO and I think that's best. I agree with you guys that it would make us feel better bout him with him acknowledging his mistakes but I just think it would cause some talking heads, rival coaches, etc to blow it up a lil and could hurt recruiting even and that's not that far fetched IMO. Good outweighing the bad, what he said is good enough for me at this time. Know what I mean?

 

[butchna]

I don't care and if we win, no one worth anything will either.

 

[99bubble]

THANK YOU. Sometimes I think people are taking crazy pills around here. With 10 minutes to go Butch was concerned that UF would score a TD and 2 field goals? Seriously? UF's kicker was hot garbage last year, everyone knew that going into the game. With 10 minutes to go you have to assume UF is only going to get the ball twice or need an onside kick for a 3rd possession. Teams had been tearing us apart on 4th down so you had to assume they would play for the 2 TDs with so little time remaining.

Actually, two long field goals and a TD to beat you after missing the two point conversion is much more likely than converting five fourth downs. Teams weren't "tearing us apart" on fourth down until this game and it cost Jancek his job. I didn't and don't have a problem with kicking the extra point. The 4th and goal from the 1/2 yard line against OK, yes, but not the extra point.

 

[KBVol]

No word on Open Practice?

Not happening this year.

 

[Volnukem]

That and the blatant misuse of any stats that matter. Why would I give to shats on a landmine what the historical numbers of one point vs two point conversions are and why would they matter? They are not running the play against ghosts of two point conversions past.. They are running the play against a team they just gassed with a seven minute drive.

Volnation lovers their voodoo though and since you mixed in two numbers combined with this"%" symbol it was enough for people to wet their pants to like your post.

That's fine if you disagree. It's a free country. I laid it out how I saw it and people agreed. No need to belittle those who see it differently.

Going for two right there is cowardly. It's an FCS playing against the big boys move. It tells the offense you don't trust them to even get a field goal. It tells the defense you can't keep them from scoring 14 points in the last 10 minutes when they have only scored 14 in the first 50. It tells the fans "I think my team is going to choke this game away." It would have told me that Butch isn't ready to win the big games. How dare he think his team could hold on to a two touchdown lead with ten minutes? Going for two right there is Bush league. Go look at the Alabama-Ole Miss game last year. Freeze made the same decision and they won.

Truth is our defense lost that game by playing not to lose with that prevent defense. Butch fired Jancek and went and hired one of the best, most aggressive DC's in the country. I would say he has admitted he was wrong about Jancek, but kicking the PAT was the right decision.

 

[Mr. Tri Star]

Actually, two long field goals and a TD to beat you after missing the two point conversion is much more likely than converting five fourth downs. Teams weren't "tearing us apart" on fourth down until this game and it cost Jancek his job. I didn't and don't have a problem with kicking the extra point. The 4th and goal from the 1/2 yard line against OK, yes, but not the extra point.

Two long field goals with UF's kicker last yr????? lol c'mon man, this is the same team that had an OPEN TRY OUT for an kicker. It is not like they had an Garza finalist place kicker booming 50 yarders. The one time they lined up for an FG, CBJ was dumb to call an timeout and after that TO, Mac decided to roll dice and go for it on 4th down (which like we all painfully know, they converted). You'll never convince me that no going for two after we went up 12 was the right decision.