Cavs vs. Hawks

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GAVol

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I know they've got no chance in this series, but can anybody ever remember a worse playoff road team than the Atlanta Hawks?
 
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GAVol said:
I know they've got no chance in this series, but can anybody ever remember a worse playoff road team than the Atlanta Hawks?
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Do you mean franchise historywise or in relation to other teams that were really bad in one playoff year?
 
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hatvol96 said:
Do you mean franchise historywise or in relation to other teams that were really bad in one playoff year?
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The Hawks franchise playoff history has been on hiatus for about a decade, so it's tough to draw a comparison.

But it's a little beyond just this year. Granted, last year's problems came against the World Champs, but this makes about 5 or 6 times in the past 2 years that the Hawks have gotten absolutely dismantled on the road. They just don't show up.

. . . and as I type this, the Hawks go down by 36 in the 3rd quarter. :wacko:
 
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GAVol said:
The Hawks franchise playoff history has been on hiatus for about a decade, so it's tough to draw a comparison.

But it's a little beyond just this year. Granted, last year's problems came against the World Champs, but this makes about 5 or 6 times in the past 2 years that the Hawks have gotten absolutely dismantled on the road. They just don't show up.

. . . and as I type this, the Hawks go down by 36 in the 3rd quarter. :wacko:
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The fact of the matter is that mediocre teams generally don't fare well on the road come playoff time. Look how bad Miami and New Orleans were this year.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Look how bad Miami and New Orleans were this year.
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So if Miami is that bad, what does it say that the Hawks got decimated by them 3 times including a beatdown in Atlanta? I don't think anybody has out of this world expectations for the Hawks, but is it too much to ask them to at least show up?
 
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GAVol said:
So if Miami is that bad, what does it say that the Hawks got decimated by them 3 times including a beatdown in Atlanta? I don't think anybody has out of this world expectations for the Hawks, but is it too much to ask them to at least show up?
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They should have gassed Woodson two years ago and hired Larry Brown when they had the chance.
 
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hatvol96 said:
They should have gassed Woodson two years ago and hired Larry Brown when they had the chance.
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Bingo . . . but it's not like we're not used to seeing the Hawks screw up a coaching situation.
 
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GAVol said:
Bingo . . . but it's not like we're not used to seeing the Hawks screw up a coaching situation.
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I honestly don't think the franchise ever fully recovered from unjustly firing Mike Fratello.
 
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hatvol96 said:
I honestly don't think the franchise ever fully recovered from unjustly firing Mike Fratello.
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I was just sitting here thinking that they haven't gotten it right since Fratello. I also think they are still getting punished for selling out Dominique Wilkins and thinking Danny Manning would take them to the promised land.
 
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GAVol said:
I was just sitting here thinking that they haven't gotten it right since Fratello. I also think they are still getting punished for selling out Dominique Wilkins and thinking Danny Manning would take them to the promised land.
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We're thinking along the same lines. I started to mention that abortion of a trade in my previous post. I remember walking into Game 1 of their series against the Knicks that year with a friend who is a huge Hawks fan. He was talking about how the Hawks matched up with the Spurs. I explained to him that he had lost his mind and that Atlanta wouldn't make it out of that series, let alone get to The Finals.
 
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hatvol96 said:
We're thinking along the same lines. I started to mention that abortion of a trade in my previous post. I remember walking into Game 1 of their series against the Knicks that year with a friend who is a huge Hawks fan. He was talking about how the Hawks matched up with the Spurs. I explained to him that he had lost his mind and that Atlanta wouldn't make it out of that series, let alone get to The Finals.
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I can't imagine what it was about the Patrick Ewing vs. Kevin Willis/Jon Koncak matchup that gave you pause.

Lenny Wilkens had to be the most overrated coach in the history of man.
 
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GAVol said:
I can't imagine what it was about the Patrick Ewing vs. Kevin Willis/Jon Koncak matchup that gave you pause.

Lenny Wilkens had to be the most overrated coach in the history of man.
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If Pat Riley or Chuck Daly had been coaching Wilkens' Cleveland teams, the Bulls dynasty would have never gotten off the ground.
 
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Riley would of had better success with Cleveland than he did with New York?

Brad Daugherty was good but no Ewing.
I dont really remember a whole lot about Larry Nance, but I think Oakley was a better player at the 4. Did Nance play PF?
Id take Starks & Rivers over Gerald Wilkins & Ehlo.
Mark Price was definitely better than anything NY had at the point

The Knicks had X-man, Hubert Davis & D-Mase, im biased but I think the Bulls still win 5 titles in the 90's. Dont know if you consider that a dynasty tho.
 
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PowerT83 said:
Riley would of had better success with Cleveland than he did with New York?

Brad Daugherty was good but no Ewing.
I dont really remember a whole lot about Larry Nance, but I think Oakley was a better player at the 4. Did Nance play PF?
Id take Starks & Rivers over Gerald Wilkins & Ehlo.
Mark Price was definitely better than anything NY had at the point

The Knicks had X-man, Hubert Davis & D-Mase, im biased but I think the Bulls still win 5 titles in the 90's. Dont know if you consider that a dynasty tho.
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Larry Nance and Oak would be a wash. Riley or Daly would have never allowed the idiotic trade that sent Ron Harper to LA for Danny Ferry to happen.
 
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