Carmelo is now a Knick

[n_huffhines]

Amare is great but this year I'd take Gasol. Amare's career FG % is .537 but it's tanked this year.

per 36 minutes

Gasol: 18.3 pp, 9.9 rp, 1.6 bp, .529 FG, .827 FT

Amare: 24.9 pp, 8.0 rp, 1.9 bp, .505 FG, .792 FT

 

[bamacheats]

Amare is great but this year I'd take Gasol. Amare's career FG % is .537 but it's tanked this year.

per 36 minutes

Gasol: 18.3 pp, 9.9 rp, 1.6 bp, .529 FG, .827 FT

Amare: 24.9 pp, 8.0 rp, 1.9 bp, .505 FG, .792 FT

Isiah Thomas agrees.


Another example of stats letting you down. Gotta roll with common sense on this one. Your stats tell you nothing of the team where they reside. Swap spots and Gasol's productivity would plummet.
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[GahLee]

I forgot Derrick Rose as well.

As far as Amare is concerned, I think he and Melo are about even.

Pau is better than Amare. If they are a push offensively, Pau is better defensively.
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[VOLinthaNATI]

And since when does down 3.2% = tanked? Keep reaching...

 

[n_huffhines]

Isiah Thomas agrees.

Another example of stats letting you down. Gotta roll with common sense on this one. Your stats tell you nothing of the team where they reside. Swap spots and Gasol's productivity would plummet.
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He'd actually score more and get more rebounds. Individual productivity in total numbers tends to increase on poorer teams. Compare Toronto Bosh (23.9 and 10.8 per 36) to Miami Bosh (18.5 and 8.2 per 36). Or you can compare Memphis Gasol to LA Gasol (scored 20+ points per 36 three seasons in Memphis and has never done it in LA). That's common sense.

Keep 'em coming.

 

[bamacheats]

He'd actually score more and get more rebounds. Individual productivity in total numbers tends to increase on poorer teams. Compare Toronto Bosh (23.9 and 10.8 per 36) to Miami Bosh (18.5 and 8.2 per 36). Or you can compare Memphis Gasol to LA Gasol (scored 20+ points per 36 three seasons in Memphis and has never done it in LA). That's common sense.

Keep 'em coming.

You're crazy! If he played Amare's spot this year, and he was the focus of the other team's D, no way in hell he would score more. Plus his almighty shooting % would be around 40.
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[bamacheats]

I forgot Derrick Rose as well.

As far as Amare is concerned, I think he and Melo are about even.

Pau is better than Amare. If they are a push offensively, Pau is better defensively.
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No way they are even. Given the option, not a single GM would take Gasol over Amare. Push offensively? No way.

Amare does royally suck at defense though. Too bad for him he's played so many seasons with D'Antoni. He's athletic, is a tireless worker, but has never been taught the first thing about defensive scheme or philosophy.
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[milohimself]

The defense is exactly why most GM's would take Gasol over Amar'e. Stoudamire is a complete bum on an entire half of the court, and his gaudy offensive numbers probably had more than a small part to do with who's been his point for most of his career.

 

[n_huffhines]

You're crazy! If he played Amare's spot this year, and he was the focus of the other team's D, no way in hell he would score more. Plus his almighty shooting % would be around 40.
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You just pull this garbage out of you butt. You have nothing to support this statement. When Gasol was the star of his team (and the focus of the opposing D) at Memphis he shot below 50% one season (.482). You have no idea what you are talking about. Just quit. You keep getting further and further behind.

Statistical research shows that increasing FGA doesn't have an impact on FG% (unless it's an extreme increase like from 2 FGA pg to 15 FGA pg). For instance, Gasol's 2nd highest FG% of his career came in a season where he had the 2nd most FGA pg of his career (in Memphis).

 

[milohimself]

Isiah Thomas agrees.


Another example of stats letting you down. Gotta roll with common sense on this one. Your stats tell you nothing of the team where they reside. Swap spots and Gasol's productivity would plummet.
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Yeah, guess what? Only a very, very small number of NBA players through history have a game that would contribute to winning for any team they could have been on. The 99.9% of everybody else? They need to be on a team to fit their style.

Gasol is at least every bit as efficient as Amar'e on the glass at both ends (and that's on a team with Bynum and Artest), has an offensive style highly conducive to Phil's coaching style and has an all-around solid to great game on and off the ball.

Amar'e is another in the long line of AAU-type prima donnas who skipped college and never bothered trying to learn how to play the game on the defensive end or off the ball. He is an absolutely incredible raw talent, but his game is so underdeveloped it's incredible. He's made a career of putting up gaudy numbers against crap competition from pick and rolls with Nash. And, most importantly, he's never, ever going to get close to even sniffing a title as a number one post option in the NBA.

 

[GahLee]

Pau is the most skilled big man in the game, he is better than Amare, no question.