Captain Marvel 2019

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LosingFaithVol said:
In this day and age of low expectations, box office intake can no longer be used as a measuring stick for film quality.
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So pray tell oh wise one, what constitutes that it's a "dud" if it makes a ton of money and gets great reviews?
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
So pray tell oh wise one, what constitutes that it's a "dud" if it makes a ton of money and gets great reviews?
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In this day and age, just about all movies regardless of quality get okay reviews and make money at the box office. If it makes you feel better, this movie will make back its budget and then some.

Justice League, got decent reviews and made back it's budget and probably a small profit. In reality, it was a stinker of a flick.
 
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I think the end of credits scene will involve Captain Marvel and Nick Fury meeting members of The Avengers who have traveled back in time to warn them about Thanos and The Snap. This explains why it seemed like Fury knew what was going on when people were disappearing in Infinity War. Then in Endgame it will be explained that Captain Marvel has been in an alternate universe this whole time so she would be protected from The Snap.
 
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LosingFaithVol said:
In this day and age, just about all movies regardless of quality get okay reviews and make money at the box office. If it makes you feel better, this movie will make back its budget and then some.

Justice League, got decent reviews and made back it's budget and probably a small profit. In reality, it was a stinker of a flick.
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Cool, here's the part where you really start to prove how much you don't know what you're talking about. Justice League lost $60 million and has not made that up in home media sales as of now. On Rotten Tomatoes, it has a 40% rating.....not decent.

So try again....what criteria will it be a dud?
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Cool, here's the part where you really start to prove how much you don't know what you're talking about. Justice League lost $60 million and has not made that up in home media sales as of now. On Rotten Tomatoes, it has a 40% rating.....not decent.

So try again....what criteria will it be a dud?
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Adding the international box office to the domestic box office, the flick made over 685 million. Then add in rental, streaming, tv distribution rights, and merchandising. In the end the stupid movie probably made back it's budget with a small profit to boot.
 
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LosingFaithVol said:
Adding the international box office to the domestic box office, the flick made over 685 million. Then add in rental, streaming, tv distribution rights, and merchandising. In the end the stupid movie probably made back it's budget with a small profit to boot.
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It did not make $685 million, it made $658 million. The studio themselves said the movie had to make $750 to break even and lost at least $60 million. And as of Feb 1 it’s made roughly $50 million from home media.

So no, it has not made a “small profit” and even the studio calls it a money losing flop.
 
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LosingFaithVol said:
In this day and age, just about all movies regardless of quality get okay reviews and make money at the box office. If it makes you feel better, this movie will make back its budget and then some.

Justice League, got decent reviews and made back it's budget and probably a small profit. In reality, it was a stinker of a flick.
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From a studio's perspective if something makes money (the more the better obviously) it is definitionally impossible to be a dud/flop/etc.

There seems to be some strange conflation between what you (though in fairness could be anyone) think of a movie and it's success. This is nonsensical. Certainly you can judge something subject to your own personal tastes (we all do to some extent) but the "success" of something isn't defined by anything so subjective.
 
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hndog609 said:
From a studio's perspective if something makes money (the more the better obviously) it is definitionally impossible to be a dud/flop/etc.

There seems to be some strange conflation between what you (though in fairness could be anyone) think of a movie and it's success. This is nonsensical. Certainly you can judge something subject to your own personal tastes (we all do to some extent) but the "success" of something isn't defined by anything so subjective.
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With the addition of the overseas market, it is impossible for a big tentpole picture to lose money at the boxoffice. Now it is all about box office expectations. If the movie doesn't perform to a studios expectations, you will eventually see news about the sequel being stalled and eventually cancelled.

The last Ghostbuster flick was a big pile of feminist driven garbage, but I'm sure it still managed to turn a profit. In the end, the final box office intake didn't measure up to studio expectations. So now there will not be a sequel to the franchise with the same cast.
 
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LosingFaithVol said:
With the addition of the overseas market, it is impossible for a big tentpole picture to lose money at the boxoffice. Now it is all about box office expectations. If the movie doesn't perform to a studios expectations, you will eventually see news about the sequel being stalled and eventually cancelled.

The last Ghostbuster flick was a big pile of feminist driven garbage, but I'm sure it still managed to turn a profit. In the end, the final box office intake didn't measure up to studio expectations. So now there will not be a sequel to the franchise with the same cast.
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Soooo, if the movie in question meets it's financial goals it can't be viewed as a "dud"?

I believe that's what pretty much everyone has been asserting all along other than you.
 
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LosingFaithVol said:
If it gets a steady diet stream of YouTube videos slamming it (think TLJ), that can be one possible way of measuring the general audience and fanboys distaste with the flick.
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ROFL....so basically if a bunch of meatheads like you don't like it, then it's a dud. Got it.
 
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LosingFaithVol said:
With the addition of the overseas market, it is impossible for a big tentpole picture to lose money at the boxoffice. Now it is all about box office expectations. If the movie doesn't perform to a studios expectations, you will eventually see news about the sequel being stalled and eventually cancelled.

The last Ghostbuster flick was a big pile of feminist driven garbage, but I'm sure it still managed to turn a profit. In the end, the final box office intake didn't measure up to studio expectations. So now there will not be a sequel to the franchise with the same cast.
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Except as I've said, for the 3rd time now, Justice League did lose money. JFC.

And no...Ghostbusters did not make a profit. It had to make around $500 million worldwide to make a profit and it only made $230 million worldwide. You are not very good at this.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Except as I've said, for the 3rd time now, Justice League did lose money. JFC.

And no...Ghostbusters did not make a profit. It had to make around $500 million worldwide to make a profit and it only made $230 million worldwide. You are not very good at this.
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'Ghostbusters' Heading for $70M-Plus Loss, Sequel Unlikely

That was the studio's last public mention of a sequel. As of Aug. 7, Ghostbusters had earned just under $180 million at the global box office, including $117 million domestic. The film still hasn't opened in a few markets, including France, Japan and Mexico, but box-office experts say it will have trouble getting to $225 million despite a hefty net production budget of $144 million plus a big marketing spend. The studio has said break-even would be $300 million.

Sony hardly is alone in suffering from audience rejection of sequels this summer. But film chief Tom Rothman and his team, along with partner Village Roadshow, had high hopes for launching a live-action Ghostbusters "universe." Now they are preparing for steep losses (think $70 million-plus) and an uncertain future for the franchise.
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Fwiw, I'm looking forward to it, I think she's pretty hot. She's no Gal Gadot, but she's pretty!
 
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