Can we talk about sitting and standing again?

#153
#153
PanicVol said:
Uh, because he started losing. You think thats a normal problem? No, it isn't. And if you thought I was worried about credibility issues on an internet chat forum, you are a huge dork.
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Ok, let's go slow....

He started losing.

The old guys stopped coming but you didn't.

He got fired.

You don't matter.
 
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daj2576 said:
I think this argument, like many legal arguments, boils down to what a reasonable expectation should be. When you go to a sporting event, is it reasonable to beleive that the people in front of you should remain in their seats and remain quiet so you can watch the game in peace? To me it does not seem so.

If these games were not available on TV, I would say that there is a case for people to suggest that fans should be wary of being loud and emotional for their team. If you do not wish to partake in the environment, you can stay at home and watch the game however you chose. You could sit on your couch naked, if you wish. The whole point of watching a game in person, especially when there is an option to watch it on TV, is for the experience, the atmosphere.


As I have said before, one of UT's problems is that the fan base for some reason skews considerably older in comparison to LSU/UF (the louder more involved stadiums). This demographic effects the noise levels, the atmosphere and everything in between. There are certainly upsides to the demographic being older, the crowd (in general) is not obnoxious or hateful to opponents. We don't throw piss, spit or wear jorts.

I don't know how to solve the problem, but I can acknowledge that there is one. Everyone believes that there way of watching the game is correct. The only people who I totally disagree with are those sorts who wear headphones the whole game, stay seated with their binoculars and mean mug anyone who stands up in their way. They need to stay at home....without exception.

I do miss the energy of the student section, it used to feel like that place would crumble to the ground it was so loud. I was there for every home game between 97-02. I get misty eyed when I think about those days...
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Well said. Agreed.
 
#158
#158
daj2576 said:
As I have said before, one of UT's problems is that the fan base for some reason skews considerably older in comparison to LSU/UF (the louder more involved stadiums). This demographic effects the noise levels, the atmosphere and everything in between. There are certainly upsides to the demographic being older, the crowd (in general) is not obnoxious or hateful to opponents. We don't throw piss, spit or wear jorts.
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I think you're wrong on all counts on that point. The demographic in Neyland looks like most other places I've been and - when we're winning- were as obnoxious as anyone.
 
#159
#159
PanicVol said:
Yeah, it rarely happens and usually is not an issue. Just saying why I think we should stand, and why I do. I honestly just one time wanted to tell those a holes what I thought. Was a great feeling, I got a little cheer from one section as well.

But like i said before. I wouldn't go near that section again. My season tickets are in the standing only section.
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I was a part of Neyland when it was all about the noise and teams dreaded coming here to play. We did not make it loud back in the day by standing, I am not opposed to standing I am however opposed to someone being totally disrespectful, for some of us, that was the way we were raised.

daj2576 said:
I think this argument, like many legal arguments, boils down to what a reasonable expectation should be. When you go to a sporting event, is it reasonable to beleive that the people in front of you should remain in their seats and remain quiet so you can watch the game in peace? To me it does not seem so.

If these games were not available on TV, I would say that there is a case for people to suggest that fans should be wary of being loud and emotional for their team. If you do not wish to partake in the environment, you can stay at home and watch the game however you chose. You could sit on your couch naked, if you wish. The whole point of watching a game in person, especially when there is an option to watch it on TV, is for the experience, the atmosphere.

As I have said before, one of UT's problems is that the fan base for some reason skews considerably older in comparison to LSU/UF (the louder more involved stadiums). This demographic effects the noise levels, the atmosphere and everything in between. There are certainly upsides to the demographic being older, the crowd (in general) is not obnoxious or hateful to opponents. We don't throw piss, spit or wear jorts.

I don't know how to solve the problem, but I can acknowledge that there is one. Everyone believes that there way of watching the game is correct. The only people who I totally disagree with are those sorts who wear headphones the whole game, stay seated with their binoculars and mean mug anyone who stands up in their way. They need to stay at home....without exception.

I do miss the energy of the student section, it used to feel like that place would crumble to the ground it was so loud. I was there for every home game between 97-02. I get misty eyed when I think about those days...
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Been going to the games since the early 70's and I am just as loud now as I was back then. Being a young fan is kind of like when you fall for your first love, being an older fan is like remembering how it felt back then but then learning to appreciate that person in a much more deeper way for what it means in your life.
 
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PanicVol said:
That doesn't even make sense.
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PanicVol said:
Ok, cool. Just checkin. You sound kinda paranoid, and use those pac man things as a defense mechanism.
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OK, let's try it this way, please keep up.......

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa......................................

Those pacman things are provided for a reason. If I had a video of me absolutely laughing my ass off at you, I would post it. I don't, ergo the pacman things laughing their asses off at you. Pretty simple actually, forums 101 I think.
 
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GAVol said:
I think you're wrong on all counts on that point. The demographic in Neyland looks like most other places I've been and - when we're winning- were as obnoxious as anyone.
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Isn't it amazing how different people can experience the same thing and form different conclusions?
 
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GmanTN said:
I was a part of Neyland when it was all about the noise and teams dreaded coming here to play. We did not make it loud back in the day by standing, I am not opposed to standing I am however opposed to someone being totally disrespectful, for some of us, that was the way we were raised.



Been going to the games since the early 70's and I am just as loud now as I was back then. Being a young fan is kind of like when you fall for your first love, being an older fan is like remembering how it felt back then but then learning to appreciate that person in a much more deeper way for what it means in your life.
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I love your passion and insight. I wish more were like you.
 
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daj2576 said:
Isn't amazing how different people can experience the same thing and form different conclusions?
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It could be as simple as where you sit vs where I sit. I don't know. I just go to a lot of games in Columbia, Athens and Tuscaloosa and it's just never struck me as a different sort of crowd in any of those places.
 
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#166
GAVol said:
It could be as simple as where you sit vs where I sit. I don't know. I just go to a lot of games in Columbia, Athens and Tuscaloosa and it's just never struck me as a different sort of crowd in any of those places.
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I agree, which is why I didn't use those stadiums as a comparison. I used LSU/UF because they are the benchmark of loud and intimidating stadiums. like it or not.

I have had season tickets, but didn't like the section. I have a much better time when I buy scalped tickets, so I have at some point been in every section (except the box seats) in that stadium.
 
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#168
#168
UTFanForLife said:
Nobody wants to stare at your butt the whole game. Stand when something exciting happens. Stand when we are on defense and need to get loud. But standing and yelling when they are out there on water break is dumb.
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Water Break ? LOL
 
#169
#169
stand during the play sit during timeouts if you bring a kid they can stand on the seat it aint that hard i did it. if they are old people they got in the stadium surely they can stand for 3 to 5 seconds at a time or they can get handicap accessible seats
 
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Zackwelch3 said:
stand during the play sit during timeouts if you bring a kid they can stand on the seat it aint that hard i did it. if they are old people they got in the stadium surely they can stand for 3 to 5 seconds at a time or they can get handicap accessible seats
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LOL.....can't be serious
 
#173
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PanicVol said:
Not really, I was with my gf and she is a real good girl and keeps me under control. We were just standing and the people behind us, I mean everybody, asked us to sit down. It was the freakin first quarter!!!

I really was polite and said no, you stand up. Long story short, it escalated because they knew the ushers. Than they started asking to see my ticket stub as if I just snuck in or something. Once that happened, I layed into them pretty good. Still pisses me off.

If I had known it was a no standing section I wouldn't have bought the tickets. They were great
seats. But man, what stuck up, ****ty people that sit there.
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What about the little kid who can't see anything with you standing up in front of him the whole time even when he is standing. All he will see is your stupid ass the whole game. I have been to Tech games and stood up the whole time because everyone was standing up unless it was a time out ect........Then, we would stand up again when the next play started. But, if everyone was sitting down we would sit down too. It is being respectful of other people. What GA vol said made sense but some folks think what they want to do is all that matters. Selfish dumb asses in my opinion. On the other hand don't be an idiot and tell everyone to sit down when everyone is standing up. This is one time to just go with the crowd. Fla game will be different than Georgia State game. All I am going to say.
 
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PanicVol said:
Was the Oregon game for me, and we were in that game the whole first half and these people refused to stand. Unbelievable.

If you go to a football game, you should be aware that people stand. Especially in Neyland! If there's a little kid or something, I always switch seats with them so they can see. If you physically can't stand there are measures you can take.

Just not wanting to stand is your own problem. This is not a movie theater, or even a basketball game. You did not pay more for your ticket, so get over it, stand, or shut up.
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Okay, had not read that yet. Thanks for helping the kid.
 
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GAVol said:
While we're at it:

1). If you exit the row and make everybody maneuver to let you out to go get something to drink on 3rd and 5.... You're an idiot.

2). If you're walking up the steps and decide to just stand in the aisle to watch a play or two in front of some random person... You're an idiot.

3) if you're yelling or trying to start the wave while we're on offense.... You're an idiot.

4). Come to think of it, if you ever start the wave .... You're an idiot.

5) if you're the guy in my section that thinks he's an OC and likes to loudly second guess play calls after the fact .... You're an idiot.

6) if you boo when we run a draw on 3rd and 30 .... You're an idiot.

7) I can cuss with the best of them and I don't care if you do. But if you're within a few seats of old people or little kids and you insist it's your god given right to scream expletives .... You're an idiot.
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Hard to usually agree with everything someone thinks. But, 100% right on all of this. You like the right teams and I agree on all 7 points. Which by the way, 7 was my number in HS. Great post.
 
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