Can we cut Ainge?

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What are the NCAA rules about revoking a scholarship? I do not think Ainge will be of any use to us next year. He stunk it up in the Memphis game and probably would have lost it for us if CPF had not collared him. I know that many of you are agaisnt starting a freshman, but I say we go with the redshirt and name Crompton the starter for 2006 in spring pratice. End the stupid QB controversies before tehy can even start.
 
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short sighted. crompton has not even thrown a pass in college. lets say he starts next year and gets hurt....... if you kick EA out then what do you do.
 
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Originally posted by patrick@Nov 17, 2005 11:21 AM
short sighted.  crompton has not even thrown a pass in college.  lets say he starts next year and gets hurt....... if you kick EA out then what do you do.
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Give the next guy on the list a try. face it. Ainge sucks. Keeping him around is just going to foment discontent and divide the team. Boot him quietly at the end of the season.
 
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EA was a top five qb coming out of high school. he has had little to no actual coaching at UT but whatever. Everyone has an opinion.
 
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Originally posted by patrick@Nov 17, 2005 11:31 AM
do you know who is "next in line"
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Seeing as how Jim Bob is a junior and he was ostensibly the #3 this year I assume he would be the #2 next year but that could change. We have a few guys that are just floating through the system right now like Bo Hardegree, Casey Woods, Dylan Dickey, Jeff Farrington, and Josh Thomson. i am sure we will add another two or three with this year's recruits. Personally, I would rather see what one of these guys can do than watch Ainge choke again. However, I think Crompton has what it takes physically to pay the position and play it well. He may not have played in an NCAA game yet but he has practiced with the team this year.
 
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Yes, we could "cut" EA. Scholarships are renewed annually. Remember the big stink when Tuberville got to Auburn and let several players go? That said, cutting EA would send a real bad message.
 
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Let Cutcliff get a hold of him before we turn him out to pasture. If Cutcliff can't straighten him out by the end of fall practice, I don't see him staying. Unfortunately for him, based on his poor play he will have to face the competition with Crompton and he does not appear to handle competition well. Even if he does get his mechanics down, the threat of Crompton may continue to mess up his head. I would guess that Cutcliff will have a clear cut starter by the end of fall practice, but the back up may be someone we don't even know exists like...Lucas Taylor.
 
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Sorry son, we have to let you go. We let you down and didn't prepare you well. We gave you a crappy QB coach who didn't develop you well and prepare you for games. Even though it's our fault for basically giving you this crap and letting you down, we're going to take it out on you and kick you out the door. Don't hold it against us please.

And everyone else on the team, keep in mind that if we coaches drop the ball you'll be held responsible. We're leaders and the ones the blame should be put on. But since you're just kids and we have the power, we can boot you to make ourselves look good......

:crazy:
 
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Originally posted by VolunteerHillbilly@Nov 17, 2005 10:28 AM
Give the next guy on the list a try.  face it. Ainge sucks.  Keeping him around is just going to foment discontent and divide the team.  Boot him quietly at the end of the season.
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That'd be impossible.
 
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Originally posted by TBALLVOL@Nov 17, 2005 2:23 PM
I would guess that Cutcliff will have a clear cut starter by the end of fall practice, but the back up may be someone we don't even know exists like...Lucas Taylor.
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Not unless we intend to change our whole offensive scheme, Taylor is a runner QB, we haven't seen him pass but in 12 games his senior year, he averaged less than 50 yards in the air :no:
 
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Originally posted by CSpindizzy@Nov 17, 2005 12:02 PM
Sorry son, we have to let you go. We let you down and didn't prepare you well. We gave you a crappy QB coach who didn't develop you well and prepare you for games. Even though it's our fault for basically giving you this crap and letting you down, we're going to take it out on you and kick you out the door. Don't hold it against us please.

And everyone else on the team, keep in mind that if we coaches drop the ball you'll be held responsible. We're leaders and the ones the blame should be put on. But since you're just kids and we have the power, we can boot you to make ourselves look good......

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]Originally posted by tidwell@Nov 17, 2005 12:05 PM
That'd be impossible.
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I think the University could do it with some class. The Ainge would get on TV and make an ass of himself and everyone in America would say, "hmm...that kid is an ass. UT was smart to get rid of him."​
 
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Originally posted by VolunteerHillbilly@Nov 17, 2005 12:18 PM
We should not tie up a scholarship because the coaches let a player down.
I think the University could do it with some class. 
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So instead of giving the kid a chance under a new system, just write him off? Like someone else says there's a hell of a message to give to recruits. After spending all that time and effort going after the guy, you don't want to get him up under a good OC to see what he can do?

As for your comparison to the workforce....no company would spend all of the time and money UT has on a guy and then just write him off after a bad period. If the potential is there most companies protect their investment and do what it takes to get something out of him. Knee jerk reactions typically come back to bite companies in your situation in the rear. No company would dump off someone who has proven they can get the job done but had a bad year and risk everything on someone who's had major surgery AND has never even taken a snap before.
 
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Brillant idea.

Let's cut people who don't play great.

Great signal to send to recruits

Freakin brillant I tell ya
 
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Thank goodness you have no say so in what happens with this team.

I bet other schools would love us to kick him out. You talk about killing our recruiting efforts!

Genius, real genius. :tease2: :banghead:
 
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I say let a good OC and QB coach get a hold of Ainge and see what happens. I believe the reason he did such a great job his Freshman year was because he hadn't "unlearned" what was taught in high school.

If it be Cutcliffe or whoever they need to make it decisive at fall practice...This is our man, no questions, no controversies, no votes in this dictatorship!!

If that happens, all the pressure goes away and the learning comes back. I think EA will be an outstanding QB.
 
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They would not cut ainge unless it was conduct detrimental to the team or can not play at the division 1 level. We all know what he can do from his freshman year. He can try to correct his mistakes this season or be a quality back up.
 
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Originally posted by VolunteerHillbilly@Nov 17, 2005 11:40 AM
Seeing as how Jim Bob is a junior and he was ostensibly the #3 this year I assume he would be the #2 next year but that could change.  We have a few guys that are just floating through the system right now like Bo Hardegree, Casey Woods, Dylan Dickey, Jeff Farrington, and Josh Thomson.  i am sure we will add another two or three with this year's recruits.  Personally, I would rather see what one of these guys can do than watch Ainge choke again.  However, I think Crompton has what it takes physically to pay the position and play it well.  He may not have played in an NCAA game yet but he has practiced with the team this year.
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Billy, Peyton Manning would probably do BAD if he practiced with these coaches.
 
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Wow. Down to the bottom of the barrel on post ideas, eh? Understandable, I guess, with this season leaving little good to discuss.

OTOH. . . .brilliant idea. Cut the only QB we will return who has any game experience. Judging from your requests to find out what Cooter or Hardegree have to offer, you have apparently NOT done your scouting reports.

Of course, we should be set with Crompton next year. We all know firsthand that, number one: QB's are immune to injury, and two: QB's invariably return stronger and more mentally-prepared after an injury or surgery.

Maybe you should apply for the vacant OC job?
 
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Originally posted by kiddiedoc@Nov 17, 2005 2:51 PM
Wow.  Down to the bottom of the barrel on post ideas, eh?  Understandable, I guess, with this season leaving little good to discuss.

OTOH. . . .brilliant idea.  Cut the only QB we will return who has any game experience.  Judging from your requests to find out what Cooter or Hardegree have to offer, you have apparently NOT done your scouting reports.

Of course, we should be set with Crompton next year.  We all know firsthand that, number one:  QB's are immune to injury, and two:  QB's invariably return stronger and more mentally-prepared after an injury or surgery.

Maybe you should apply for the vacant OC job?
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Doc - I had avoided this thread until I saw you posted to it - man you hit that one on the head - these people need to be knocked out!!
 
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Originally posted by VolunteerHillbilly@Nov 17, 2005 10:06 AM
What are the NCAA rules about revoking a scholarship?  I do not think Ainge will be of any use to us next year.  He stunk it up in the Memphis game and probably would have lost it for us if CPF had not collared him.  I know that many of you are agaisnt starting a freshman, but I say we go with the redshirt and name Crompton the starter for 2006 in spring pratice.  End the stupid QB controversies before tehy can even start.
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Remember, This idea comes from the same "brilliance" that would have us "throw in the towel" on our last 2 games! Also, we were ALL chearing EA on as he got us back into the game @ ND, before falling apart in the 4th qtr.
 
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Originally posted by CSpindizzy@Nov 17, 2005 12:41 PM
As for your comparison to the workforce....no company would spend all of the time and money UT has on a guy and then just write him off after a bad period. If the potential is there most companies protect their investment and do what it takes to get something out of him.
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