Can we analyze the whole picture?

#26
#26
I'd ask Patterson if he's ever played free safety. If he has, then put him back there as we did with Pickens. One superior athlete in the defensive secondary, at least playing a centerfield role to mop up the errors made in front of him, would do a world of good the rest of the way.

I'd consider starting Worley. We need someone who has his head in the game 24/7. Mistakes will be made. But I have more confidence in the backup to learn from his mistakes.

Take this offensive approach away from the quarterback/receivers and give it to our offensive line/running backs. The personnel who were supposed to be the spearhead of the offensive strategy simply are not getting the job done. It is beyond time for Chaney to adjust to that fact and go with a new approach.
 
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OrangeByBirth said:
There are a lot of 1 track minds that can't look beyond that.

I would start Worley against USC. He and Patterson are from there and it would punch some emotion into a listless team.

I would look at who else might be ready to start at WR along with Patterson.

I would hold try-outs if necessary to find a DB that can cover.

I would hope that USC is flat after 2 losses instead of fired up.
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This is the kind of feedback I like to see!
It's specific and thought out.

Thank you!
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Sorry, it all falls on the HC. We have been down this road, DD changed his entire staff save 2. Sooner or later the head coach must step up and take the blame.

I know thats not the answer you wanted, but it is what it is.
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He didn't "changed" his entire staff because he wanted to. Most left for different opportunities. It's always easy to blame the head coach. I'm about to get use to it. Hell everyone but a few wanted Fulmer gone now they wish he was back. I've said it before but so many of you have on blinders and want wins now. It's not going to happen overnight. A whole new set of coaches. Players trying to learn a new defense. A QB & receiver who can't seem to play pitch and catch anymore. A new coach is not going to come in here and get the program back to where it needs to be in a 3 to 4 yr period. Just my opinion but you have to give any coach at least 4 yrs.
 
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ldyvolsoftballfan said:
He didn't "changed" his entire staff because he wanted to. Most left for different opportunities. It's always easy to blame the head coach. I'm about to get use to it. Hell everyone but a few wanted Fulmer gone now they wish he was back. I've said it before but so many of you have on blinders and want wins now. It's not going to happen overnight. A whole new set of coaches. Players trying to learn a new defense. A QB & receiver who can't seem to play pitch and catch anymore. A new coach is not going to come in here and get the program back to where it needs to be in a 3 to 4 yr period. Just my opinion but you have to give any coach at least 4 yrs.
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Well said!!! They just don't get it.
 
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coug said:
Hopefully this can be pulled off without it turning into a hate/fire Dooley thread.

What do you honestly think is the problem with our football program? It's NOT just one thing or one person so please be specific and break it down.

Here are my thoughts:
-We have a qb who is obviously not a leader.
-We have a defensive coach who is not getting the job done.
-We have a WR who looked amazing but can no longer catch balls.
-Aside from the Alabama game we've had a kicker who's mostly been inconsistent.

Aside from firing the HC how would you change things, and/or who would you change?
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I'll take a stab at this. Starts with the coaching. We do not have adequate preparation to compete mentally and physically for 60 minutes. Plus, we do not try any tricks, gimmicks, or unexpected plays to give us an emotional boost....or catch more talented teams off guard. By the way, what happened to our hurry up offense that looked so formidable? It hasn't been seen since nc state.
We have qb with the gunslinger approach. His mechanics and footwork are incomplete and inconsistent. I've heard on this board he doesnt study film and it dramatically inhibits his defensive reads. This is baffling considering the fantastic job the o line is doing. Defensively, our line, backers, and secondary play às three separate units instead of one. Position, reads, speed have been covered many times already. The special teams play is unexplainable. We have a coach and players with talent.
 
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A new coach won't face the challenges Dooley faced.. If he's worth his salt, you'll at least see a better prepared team.. This team apparently doesn't get much out of practicing..
 
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ldyvolsoftballfan said:
He didn't "changed" his entire staff because he wanted to. Most left for different opportunities. It's always easy to blame the head coach. I'm about to get use to it. Hell everyone but a few wanted Fulmer gone now they wish he was back. I've said it before but so many of you have on blinders and want wins now. It's not going to happen overnight. A whole new set of coaches. Players trying to learn a new defense. A QB & receiver who can't seem to play pitch and catch anymore. A new coach is not going to come in here and get the program back to where it needs to be in a 3 to 4 yr period. Just my opinion but you have to give any coach at least 4 yrs.
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Very few wish Fulmer was back.
 
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govolzgo said:
I'm sorry, but do you really see any SEC caliber dbs running around in our secondary?
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I could agree with you but you're riding the short bus if you think there is better talent walking around campus just waiting for a tryout. So illogical it's not even worth debating.
 
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Without defending or attacking Dooley, the problem has been relatively obvious week in and week out. On defense, we cannot rush the quarterback and so the DBs have to defend for far too long. On offense, the big play threats have not made big plays. The other teams' big play threats have. End of story.
 
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We're a "leaderless team"...both on the field and on the sidelines. I can find more emotion at a grave yard.
 
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#37
what happened to all of the 'great' DB's we recruited? To say they looked terrible, is a compliment.

PS I was there and was very proud of the response and applause Fulmer and 97 team received. Classy.

Manning and Bruce Pearl were sitting in skyboxes.. Good memories - good times
 
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coug said:
Hopefully this can be pulled off without it turning into a hate/fire Dooley thread.

What do you honestly think is the problem with our football program? It's NOT just one thing or one person so please be specific and break it down.

Here are my thoughts:
-We have a qb who is obviously not a leader.
-We have a defensive coach who is not getting the job done.
-We have a WR who looked amazing but can no longer catch balls.
-Aside from the Alabama game we've had a kicker who's mostly been inconsistent.

Aside from firing the HC how would you change things, and/or who would you change?
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I think I can sum it up and will wait to see if others agree...

"You aren't going to have Tennessee to kick around anymore"

CDD
 
#39
#39
Basically sum it up easy like this...

Thi year is like last year which was like the year before and that year was like the year before that year...see...simple
 
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#42
We have some coaches who aren't getting the job done.

We have clear talent deficiences in some areas.

We have some players who have forgotten that there is no "I" in team.

We have leaders who can't lead, playmakers who don't make plays, defenders who don't defend and players who won't give their all.

We have accepted a culture of mediocrity that makes losing an acceptable alternative.

Our team has a lot of quit in it and has for several years now.

IMO, all of the above is the reason we will not be a 9-4 or 10-3 team this year. It was within our grasp.
 
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A general lack of direction and leadership from top to bottom. Still lacking in talent in some key areas and the guys playing in those spots aren't good enough to compete without having a solid scheme (which doesn't appear to be the case) that they know inside-out (which also appears to be the case) that can mask some inefficiencies through positioning, coverage, etc.

In short, it appears there is a lot of sh***y coaching and the players don't have the willingness and/or ability to overcome and/or adapt.

There is a saying that you can't make chicken salad out of chicken s**t, but I don't think that most of this staff even has a recipe they could begin with.
 
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LA Vol said:
We have some coaches who aren't getting the job done.

We have clear talent deficiences in some areas.

We have some players who have forgotten that there is no "I" in team.

We have leaders who can't lead, playmakers who don't make plays, defenders who don't defend and players who won't give their all.

We have accepted a culture of mediocrity that makes losing an acceptable alternative.

Our team has a lot of quit in it and has for several years now.

IMO, all of the above is the reason we will not be a 9-4 or 10-3 team this year. It was within our grasp.
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That I think is more of a problem than most people think.
 
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#45
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coug said:
That I think is more of a problem than most people think.
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Absolutely! And those that seem to be most guilty are from the Kiffin class(es). The damage wrought by that turd are not insurmountable but have proven to be worse than I even imagined.
 
#46
#46
Lets see...coach has to have at least 4 years?

See:
Muschamp at Florida
Petrino at Arkansas
Mullen at Mississippi State
Saban at Alabama
Dooley at Tennessee??? Nope Sorry
 
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SteveninTenn said:
Here let me lay it out here for ya... Fire that idiot! How many times are we going to throw long (and miss) on 3rd and short. How many times do we need to burn timeouts just for personale issues? Ask yourself this? Is Dooley as good as Fulmer? Is Dooley as good Majors? Is Dooley as good as Doug Dickey? If you answer no 3 times then you just figured out its time to fire Dooley.
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That was a terrible play call (after a timeout, no less) and pretty much put things in perspective for me.
 
#49
#49
Dooley needs to go. Let the new coach evaluate the current staff and do as he pleases. But do not hire somebody rumored to be the next great thing! Open the checkbook and get quality.
 
#50
#50
A coach that's worth his salt can take a mediocre player/team and coach them up to a level that's competitive. Maybe not elite or BCS championship competitive every year, but competitive enough to win some that were unexpected wins. It all goes back to the coaches: players attitude, performance, everything. Get the right coach and staff, and you'll have the right performance on the field. Can't be much simpler than that.
 
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