Can any of these coaches build a staff?

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drock42

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Hey guys. I have followed this site for years now a regular basis. And like so many others I have followed even more closely since the announcement that Phillip Fulmer would no longer be our head coach here at UT. Until now I have chosen to simply kick back and read the countless opinions and positions of all you great posters out there. However I cannot help but notice that there has not been an emphasis on one important issue regarding our next head coach. . .The issue I am speaking of is his ability to assemble a quality staff.
Throughout the country, anywhere you see a highly successful head coach you will also see that he has surrounded himself with talented, experienced assistants. Urban has Charlie Strong and Dan Mullen. Mark Richt has Mike Bobo and Willie Martinez and Brian VanGorder before him. Bob Stoops has had his brother Mike, Mark Mangino Brent Venables and others. Fulmer himself sank or swim depending upon whether or not Coach Cut was his right hand man. Any intelligent follower of college football knows that more often than not, a head coach is only as good as the assistants he surrounds himself with.
With all this being said I would like to see Hamilton pursue Will Muschamp. I make no secret of that but I also must say that I will support 100% whoever he decides to hire. There are many quality candidates out there and I don't doubt that Hamilton will select the right guy. But for arguments sake I will support my selection of Muschamp.
Anyone who has ever watched a game in which Muschamp was coaching can see he would bring energy to the program. I have seen the statistics posted on here many times so by now you all know his defenses have been successful wherever he has been. But going back to the issue at hand, Muschamp is well connected. he is a graduate of UGa and has coach at Texas, Auburn, LSU and with the NFL's Miami Dolphins. With this background in mind there are endless possibilities to the staff he could assemble. Would he bring Major Applewhite with him from Texas? (Applewhite has SEC coordinator experience under Saban at 'Bama) Would Hugh Nall and/or Greg Knox follow him from Auburn if Tubberville is axed? Maybe Kirby Smart, Curt Cignetti, or Kevin Steele come over from Alabama?
The bottom line is that Muschamp has the resources and connections to assemble a quality staff with SEC experience and the ability to recruit. The same cannot be said of many of the other potential coaches mentioned. But as I said earlier I will support whoever the university selects and I anxiously await their decision.
 
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good first post, I like Muschamp too and I do think he is well connected and could assemble a first class staff. I just don't like him as much as I like some of the other big names that have been mentioned and rumored and until guys like Stoops and Cowher flat out say absolutely positively "NO" I am going to keep hoping against hope that we could land one of them. If not, Muschamp is a very solid fall back plan along with Peterson.
 
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Hey guys. I have followed this site for years now a regular basis. And like so many others I have followed even more closely since the announcement that Phillip Fulmer would no longer be our head coach here at UT. Until now I have chosen to simply kick back and read the countless opinions and positions of all you great posters out there. However I cannot help but notice that there has not been an emphasis on one important issue regarding our next head coach. . .The issue I am speaking of is his ability to assemble a quality staff.
Throughout the country, anywhere you see a highly successful head coach you will also see that he has surrounded himself with talented, experienced assistants. Urban has Charlie Strong and Dan Mullen. Mark Richt has Mike Bobo and Willie Martinez and Brian VanGorder before him. Bob Stoops has had his brother Mike, Mark Mangino Brent Venables and others. Fulmer himself sank or swim depending upon whether or not Coach Cut was his right hand man. Any intelligent follower of college football knows that more often than not, a head coach is only as good as the assistants he surrounds himself with.
With all this being said I would like to see Hamilton pursue Will Muschamp. I make no secret of that but I also must say that I will support 100% whoever he decides to hire. There are many quality candidates out there and I don't doubt that Hamilton will select the right guy. But for arguments sake I will support my selection of Muschamp.
Anyone who has ever watched a game in which Muschamp was coaching can see he would bring energy to the program. I have seen the statistics posted on here many times so by now you all know his defenses have been successful wherever he has been. But going back to the issue at hand, Muschamp is well connected. he is a graduate of UGa and has coach at Texas, Auburn, LSU and with the NFL's Miami Dolphins. With this background in mind there are endless possibilities to the staff he could assemble. Would he bring Major Applewhite with him from Texas? (Applewhite has SEC coordinator experience under Saban at 'Bama) Would Hugh Nall and/or Greg Knox follow him from Auburn if Tubberville is axed? Maybe Kirby Smart, Curt Cignetti, or Kevin Steele come over from Alabama?
The bottom line is that Muschamp has the resources and connections to assemble a quality staff with SEC experience and the ability to recruit. The same cannot be said of many of the other potential coaches mentioned. But as I said earlier I will support whoever the university selects and I anxiously await their decision.

Welcome
Well reasoned post...keep it up
 
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welcome to the Nation! post some more its inciteful to have everyone who cares about this programs opinion.
 
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Kiffin could put together a much better staff than Muschamp.

I think Kiffin is a great candidate as well. He is a FANTASTIC recruiter and is just the kind of young man that could lead a program in the way Richt and Meyer are currently leading UGa and Florida. However there are two issues I have with hiring Kiffin.

1. Who would he hire to fill out his staff?
I doubt anyone follows him from the dumpster fire that is the Oakland Raiders and the majority of his NCAA experience is at USC. Does anyone from that staff really want to leave the weather of SoCal or the cushy schedule of the PAC-10? I don't know that they would, but there is certainly coaching talent there.

2. He's an NFL guy.
Lane Kiffin is no doubt an NFL guy. Look at how quickly he left USC for the Raiders when others turned it down. His dad has been stationed in the NFL for years now. Even if he was to get our program back atop the SEC, wouldn't it just be a matter of time before he bolted to the NFL?
 
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welcome to the board drock. good post. im not so sure about Muschamp, but i will support whomever we get, also.
 
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2. He's an NFL guy.
Lane Kiffin is no doubt an NFL guy. Look at how quickly he left USC for the Raiders when others turned it down. His dad has been stationed in the NFL for years now. Even if he was to get our program back atop the SEC, wouldn't it just be a matter of time before he bolted to the NFL?
Would you not have done that?
 
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Which players at USC did Kiffin recruit?

Kiffin served as USC's Recruiting coordinator in 2005 and 2006. These classes included Brian Cushing, Rey Maualuga, Patrick Turner, Taylor Mays, David Ausberry, Stafon Johnson, Mark Sanchez, CJ Gable, Emmanuel Moody (currently at Florida) and Allen Bradford among others.
 
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Would you not have done that?

I'm not saying I wouldn't have....but who's to say Kiffin wouldn't do it again?

I believe given Lane's background he will always have an eye on the NFL no matter how much success he has at the college level.
 
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I think Kiffin is a great candidate as well. He is a FANTASTIC recruiter and is just the kind of young man that could lead a program in the way Richt and Meyer are currently leading UGa and Florida. However there are two issues I have with hiring Kiffin.

1. Who would he hire to fill out his staff?
I doubt anyone follows him from the dumpster fire that is the Oakland Raiders and the majority of his NCAA experience is at USC. Does anyone from that staff really want to leave the weather of SoCal or the cushy schedule of the PAC-10? I don't know that they would, but there is certainly coaching talent there.

2. He's an NFL guy.
Lane Kiffin is no doubt an NFL guy. Look at how quickly he left USC for the Raiders when others turned it down. His dad has been stationed in the NFL for years now. Even if he was to get our program back atop the SEC, wouldn't it just be a matter of time before he bolted to the NFL?

the reason I like Steve Sarkisian, along with Ken Norton jr as DC.

just look at previous dynasties, with proven assistants.
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Why wouldn't Kiffin leave for the NFL if he was just a college coordinator? Also, I have no problem with Kiffin succeeding for a few years and leaving if he has done well enough to merit a head coaching job. I would rather he stay, but it is better UT gets a guy who leaves after a few successful years, than to get someone like Leach who finally has an above average year in season 9.
 
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I would rather see Charlie Strong on the sidelines next year then Muschamp. Strong has been in the Sec for years and has called some big games not to mention his defense looks impressive. As for Muschamp his defense should be nicknamed Bonfire the way they have been torched this season. Welcome to the board, sink or swim whoever the next coach is we all have to live with it.
 
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good first post, I like Muschamp too and I do think he is well connected and could assemble a first class staff. I just don't like him as much as I like some of the other big names that have been mentioned and rumored and until guys like Stoops and Cowher flat out say absolutely positively "NO" I am going to keep hoping against hope that we could land one of them. If not, Muschamp is a very solid fall back plan along with Peterson.

Word up, Holmes.
 
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No conference in the country places more players in the NFL then the SEC with the vast majority of them coming from TN, FL, LSU, GA. Kiffin would need to be able to recruit nationally to compete against the Gators, Bulldogs and now with Saban the Tide.
 
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I think Kiffin is a great candidate as well. He is a FANTASTIC recruiter and is just the kind of young man that could lead a program in the way Richt and Meyer are currently leading UGa and Florida. However there are two issues I have with hiring Kiffin.

1. Who would he hire to fill out his staff?
I doubt anyone follows him from the dumpster fire that is the Oakland Raiders and the majority of his NCAA experience is at USC. Does anyone from that staff really want to leave the weather of SoCal or the cushy schedule of the PAC-10? I don't know that they would, but there is certainly coaching talent there.

2. He's an NFL guy.
Lane Kiffin is no doubt an NFL guy. Look at how quickly he left USC for the Raiders when others turned it down. His dad has been stationed in the NFL for years now. Even if he was to get our program back atop the SEC, wouldn't it just be a matter of time before he bolted to the NFL?

Bingo!!
 
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Kiffin served as USC's Recruiting coordinator in 2005 and 2006. These classes included Brian Cushing, Rey Maualuga, Patrick Turner, Taylor Mays, David Ausberry, Stafon Johnson, Mark Sanchez, CJ Gable, Emmanuel Moody (currently at Florida) and Allen Bradford among others.
He may very well be a great recuiter, but to be fair when Kiffin rode that hobby horse the Pete Caroll USC team was a pretty easy recruit magnet.
 
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I know what you mean. I think Kiffin would most likely be great, but I can't help but think of the similarities involving Crennel and Weiss from the Patriots. It may just be the head guy.
 
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He may very well be a great recuiter, but to be fair when Kiffin rode that hobby horse the Pete Caroll USC team was a pretty easy recruit magnet.

exactly....Kiffin will have a good future I think, just probably not for UT
:eek:lol:
 
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The truth is, Fulmer failed to fire and hire as he should. Loyalty is two edge sword. It played well for Fulmer and then got him fired. Staff is the key to the success of any program. When you hire, you hire the best available. When you do that, they leave to go other places... usually up the ladder. The only person to be hired off of a Fulmer staff is Cut. We need a coach who can recruit AND hire the best staff possible and replace them when they are hired away. Fulmer's staff was stale. He failed to renew in his staff. It is good to read a post that addresses more than just recruiting and an offense that puts up a lot of yards.
 
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