California Lunacy Thread

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CagleMtnVol said:
Agree to disagree. I think most of Los Angeles and California are to for gone to the left they don't see anything wrong.

The administration had to do something or we were going to see ICE agents killed. Mayor Bass at her pc last night had a woman speaking telling people phone numbers they could call to report seeing ICE vehicles & personal so counter measures can be rushed to that location.
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I don't think anything the administration has done decreases the likelihood of ICE agents getting killed.

if Bass, or that lady, is doing something wrong. go after them. everything else is window dressing right now that does nothing to protect ICE or ensure they can do their job.
 
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ETV said:
In response to that, can't the fed just inform California that they can kiss their federal aid adios?
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I don't know. I was trying to pick my jaw up off the floor after hearing it and was waiting for any of the reporters there to say something about it but no one said a thing.

It certainly explaines why so many people showed up so quickly to the location of the raid they did the other morning that started all this.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
We don't really care what you call it.

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there are enough laws in place to lock up the violent, or those directly interfering with lawful acts of ICE. it doesn't need to go any further than that. calling it insurrection just justifies more government power over its citizens. I am old enough to remember the Patriot Act and Covid, maybe you aren't. if that's the case I suggest reading a history book.
 
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KB5252 said:
It could be argued this isn't just an attack on officers. It's an attack on the rule of law. And without that no government can operate.
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that Jackboot thinking fits too tight for my comfort. with little reason to think otherwise.

we haven't even hit the '92 LA riot levels yet.
 
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SlipKidVol said:
so that's it, rioting is OK as long as it is less than "92

I cant believe the folks on here being OK with rioting, especially by people waving a foreign flag
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see my previous post. never said they are OK. I just don't agree with the level of response.

it is possible for two, or more, wrongs to exist in any given situation.
 
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SlipKidVol said:
sure, grass root version is good, but this is rioting, so in your opinion the federal government should not do its job as described in the constitution?
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That's not what I'm saying at all. They should do their job, continue rounding up illegals and deport them. They can even bring in more federal law enforcement officers to help and defend the agents doing the rounding up. Just leave the military out of it.

BUT, yes I do support resisting the federal government even when people are resisting something I might personally support.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Granted maybe the CBC doesn't very well reflect the vibe of the rural west, but I watch their news every now and then and I don't get the sense that, as a whole, the country is as polarized.

And we also saw this:

(*they aren't socialists) but the Canadian electorate is more concerned about Trump than they are the ideological differences between their own two main parties.
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I don't care about the Trump aspect of it. I think he was foolish then as he often is.

I was just commenting on how polarized the country is between rural and urban Canada.

The fact that a very left leaning urban dominated society would look to conservatives says as much about it's recent leadership as the vote for Trump says about the last admin ...... And we're going to have another way to extreme course correction next cycle.
 
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LouderVol said:
I don't think anything the administration has done decreases the likelihood of ICE agents getting killed.

if Bass, or that lady, is doing something wrong. go after them. everything else is window dressing right now that does nothing to protect ICE or ensure they can do their job.
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What can they do to go after them? What is the recourse?
 
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KB5252 said:
What can they do to go after them? What is the recourse?
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Based on the post that person was implying, Bass was doing something wrong. if she didn't do anything wrong, I don't know even know why she was brought up except to complain about something, or distract.

I have no problem holding her accountable for any actions that are illegal. we don't need the NG kicking in her door to reestablish peace in the area.
 
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LouderVol said:
I don't think anything the administration has done decreases the likelihood of ICE agents getting killed.
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The response by LA local law enforcement was much tougher yesterday than this weekend. Now, there werent as many people vs the weekend but LEOs did look more organized and engaged.

If Newsome wants to sue Trump and have a chance of winning, he has to show that local law enforcement will protect (they dont have to assist or support ICE in any way) federal agents and property.
 
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LouderVol said:
and at some point the people would get tired of it and vote for change.

remember what happened in the Canadian election? a right leaning person was winning handidly, and then Trump inserted himself, and the socialists ended up winning.

same thing here. before Trump inserted himself this was a mess on the California dems. it was ugly and terrible, with no way to blame anyone else. but trump inserting himself gave them the easiest lightning rod to divert some of the blame, and make themselves look better.
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You are under the illusion that Canada has fair elections. In Europe, conservative after conservative are winning elections and the "E.U" comes in and invalidates them. There are no fair elections taking place these days. Every state that had voter picture ID requirements went for Trump BIG. All the rest are still fighting to keep voting unsecured. Voting for change will NEVER work as long as the elections are unsecure. That's just fact.
 
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MontyPython said:
Bullsh*t.

ICE was so pressed to find people to arrest that they targeted day laborers at Home Depot. Day laborers, not violet people.

THIS was the primary cause of the riots, dude. Your boy Donald is a liar incarnate.... surely you know that by now.
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Are they here legally? If not they should go. If they don't go, they should be removed. I still think we should implement a bounty scheme. Turn in an illegal and get a 100 bucks. You will see the rioters of LA turn on each other so fast.
 
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rekinhavoc said:


If any of this is true....where are the FBI on raiding the puppet masters?
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Act Blue financing these bullcrap NGOs. The same Act Blue that got over half of the $200 million that corporations donated to BLM during the LAST TIME the dipshit Leftists rioted and destroyed cities . So the millions that US companies paid as "protection money" to the Woke mob last time, in order to keep their buildings from being burned down or getting "cancelled"....is the exact same money that Act Blue is paying these domestic terror organizations to riot in LA. Also pays to bail them out of jail if needed. Of course, Act Blue and the Dems own all the DAs and judges in these liberal crapholes...so these people will never do any time anyway.

Ridiculous to let these NGOs masquerade as charities and pay NO TAXES while financing domestic terrorism in our country. Communist trash.
 
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LouderVol said:
that Jackboot thinking fits too tight for my comfort. with little reason to think otherwise.

we haven't even hit the '92 LA riot levels yet.
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I think local government conspiring, at least to some extent, with rioters and bad actors, to fight back against a basic tenant of federal law enforcement warrants at least the discussion or debate. To dismiss it outright is problematic.

I'm not saying it's the right way to view it necessarily, I haven't made up my mind yet. Still thinking it through. But just as I find Trump calling in National Gaurd problematic, local officials, lawmakers and even judges working against federal law is a problem.
 
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