California Lunacy Thread

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"Gang members and violent criminals, what Trump called the “worst of the worst,” weren’t the sole target of deportations. Federal agents needed to “just go out there and arrest illegal aliens,” Miller told top ICE officials, who had come from across the U.S., according to people familiar with the meeting.

Agents didn’t need to develop target lists of immigrants suspected of being in the U.S. illegally, a longstanding practice, Miller said. Instead, he directed them to target Home Depot, where day laborers typically gather for hire, or 7-Eleven convenience stores. Miller bet that he and a handful of agents could go out on the streets of Washington, D.C., and arrest 30 people right away. "


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hog88 said:
This is no more of an insurrection than Jan 6th. It's a flipping riot.
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With people who generally are just willing to protest anything goaded on by Trump and evil Miller trying to mollify the MAGA base by knocking some heads around. It was completely unnecessary from the getgo.
 
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Trump and Miller are sitting there just hoping somebody does something stupid so they can say "See! We were right !" Whole thing is a manufactured crisis.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Trump and Miller are sitting there just hoping somebody does something stupid so they can say "See! We were right !" Whole thing is a manufactured crisis.
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You’re right. Dims manufactured this by letting illegal invaders come in by the millions and ignored the law to get what we have now.
 
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C-south said:
You’re right. Dims manufactured this by letting illegal invaders come in by the millions and ignored the law to get what we have now.
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Let's assune you were right. Would that justify ICE agents going into places where illegal immigrants tend to congregate and just start shooting them? No.

Point is, there's a way to to do things that isn't wholesale disregard of human or constitutional rights and you don't get to suspend that just because youre mad, really mad, at the situation.
 
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lawgator1 said:
With people who generally are just willing to protest anything goaded on by Trump and evil Miller trying to mollify the MAGA base by knocking some heads around. It was completely unnecessary from the getgo.
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WTH are you talking about?
 
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lawgator1 said:
GOP: "State's rights! State's rights!"

Reality: "Trump is ignoring and violating every basic concept of State's rights."

GOP: "Republican State's rights ! Republican State's rights!"
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What State Right is he ignoring? The federal government had always had the right and duty to protect federal facilities and personnel. This all started with „protestors“ trying to block or storm ICE detention facilities.
Same as when the dems in 1861 tried to take Fort Sumpter in Charleston harbor
 
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lawgator1 said:
With people who generally are just willing to protest anything goaded on by Trump and evil Miller trying to mollify the MAGA base by knocking some heads around. It was completely unnecessary from the getgo.
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You may think in „completely unnecessary“, but you don’t have 77 million voters giving you the ability to make that determination. Donald J Trump does.
 
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volfanhill said:
"Gang members and violent criminals, what Trump called the “worst of the worst,” weren’t the sole target of deportations. Federal agents needed to “just go out there and arrest illegal aliens,” Miller told top ICE officials, who had come from across the U.S., according to people familiar with the meeting.

Agents didn’t need to develop target lists of immigrants suspected of being in the U.S. illegally, a longstanding practice, Miller said. Instead, he directed them to target Home Depot, where day laborers typically gather for hire, or 7-Eleven convenience stores. Miller bet that he and a handful of agents could go out on the streets of Washington, D.C., and arrest 30 people right away. "


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Has there been any ICE raids on hotel/resort workers?
 
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lawgator1 said:
Trump and Miller are sitting there just hoping somebody does something stupid so they can say "See! We were right !" Whole thing is a manufactured crisis.
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Are you blind or willfully blind? Hoping they do something stupid? Have you not watched the riots the last few days? They crossed the doing something stupid line on day one.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
You may think in „completely unnecessary“, but you don’t have 77 million voters giving you the ability to make that determination. Donald J Trump does.
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After the BLM debacle, the average American is sick of this sh1t. Put an end to this lawless behavior by any means necessary.

And by the way, there were and have been plenty of anti-ICE protests that were non-violent and non-destructive and the vast majority of Americans, while they disagree with them, support their right to protest. Have zero problem with it. Go for it. Once it turns destructive, violent and main highways are blocked, it is no longer protesting but a form of terrorism and must be quickly and forcefully dealt with.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
I strongly disagree. Those law enforcement deserve to be protected.
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They do, but that look was terrible, and there was no one to blame it on but Newsome. Now Newsome has political cover and a narrative that sells because Trump is an idiot.

Now we can debate what would be worse, but as long as no ICE officers were seriously injured I'd leave that alone and let Newsome explain to his taxpayers why they are allowing rioting and disorder by agitators he created.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
What State Right is he ignoring? The federal government had always had the right and duty to protect federal facilities and personnel. This all started with „protestors“ trying to block or storm ICE detention facilities.
Same as when the dems in 1861 tried to take Fort Sumpter in Charleston harbor
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If California wants to secede, I am open to hearing their offer. Until then, they have the right as a State not to assist ICE in any way but they cant impede them and they cant allow their law enforcement to stand down while local goons terrorize them.
 
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volgr said:
If California wants to secede, I am open to hearing their offer. Until then, they have the right as a State not to assist ICE in any way but they cant impede them and they cant allow their law enforcement to stand down while local goons terrorize them.
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I am also open to trading California to Canada in exchange tor Alberta and the other remaining „sane“ provinces
 
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