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Did anyone really think Tennessee looked that good on offense? Our running game wasn't special, and it seemed every single pass on offense was under 8 yards or incomplete... I'm amazed we got 31 points out of doing the same thing...
 
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tvolsfan said:
Did anyone really think Tennessee looked that good on offense? Our running game wasn't special, and it seemed every single pass on offense was under 8 yards or incomplete... I'm amazed we got 31 points out of doing the same thing...
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I wouldn't be getting giddy over that performance.Lets remember cal was breaking in new players on defense.They weren't that good either.This offense after what i saw last night will average around ten points against good sec defenses.
 
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Speed killed us.
Poor tackling.
No deep threat.
Defensive play calling.
Special team play.
 
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#5
Well VN, we just saw a higher scoring version of the Penn St. game to end the year last night. We couldn't stop the run even though we knew it was coming.

Rule 1 - You WILL not stop the run if you play man coverage and overplay your assignments. This was proven over and over again last night.

Rule 2 - You WILL not stop the run if you play man coverage and only have 5 men in the box after the ball is snapped. I don't know about you guys but the game I watch had 5 players in the box after the ball was snapped most plays and the rest dropping into coverage.

Rule 3 - If your LB's don't plug the gaps 3 -4 yards from the line of scrimmage you WILL not stop anything from getting to the secondary.

Rule 4 - If you are going to play man coverage, THEN PLAY FREAKING MAN COVERAGE. We played bump and run all night last night.

The only three players that came to play last night on Defense were Berry, Hef, and Mitchell. Now Mitchell is hurt and there is no telling how long he will be out. I am officially DONE with John Chavis. His defenses have consistently gotten worse since 98 and its time for a change. Look what happened when we got a new OC. Ainge played his heart out last night and if any of you try and blame him or his pinky then you didn't watch the same game I did last night. Same thing goes for Arian Foster. A lot of you were questioning him on KR, but I guarantee you were cheering on his 70 yard KR he had. Our offense will be JUST fine, but our defense is just plain bad and if we couldn't stop Cal's running game then we are up you know what creek without a paddle when we get into the SEC schedule.
 
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I'm sick and tired of losing in the last minutes, not winning inspite of scoring 31 points. How long will we endure seasons of losing to the LSU's, Florida's and other ranked teams while bragging about beating the Vanderbilts, Kentuckies of the world.

Good bye John C. it's been a good run. Now run away!
 
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dshabs said:
I'm sick and tired of losing in the last minutes, not winning inspite of scoring 31 points. How long will we endure seasons of losing to the LSU's, Florida's and other ranked teams while bragging about beating the Vanderbilts, Kentuckies of the world.

Good bye John C. it's been a good run. Now run away!
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It's tough not to give up a lot of points when the other team's offense starts every drive at midfield. The points the offense gave away in the first quarter didn't help, either. Take away the O-Line's failure to pick up a blitzer on the first drive, we get 7 points. Take away horrible coverage on DeSean, we get 7 points. Take away the awesome field position Cal got on every drive, the Bears get a few less points. Give UT the points they should have been able to get when they had first and goal inside the five, and UT wins. There's more problems than just the defense.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
The only three players that came to play last night on Defense were Berry, Hef, and Mitchell. Now Mitchell is hurt and there is no telling how long he will be out. I am officially DONE with John Chavis. His defenses have consistently gotten worse since 98 and its time for a change. Look what happened when we got a new OC. Ainge played his heart out last night and if any of you try and blame him or his pinky then you didn't watch the same game I did last night. Same thing goes for Arian Foster. A lot of you were questioning him on KR, but I guarantee you were cheering on his 70 yard KR he had. Our offense will be JUST fine, but our defense is just plain bad and if we couldn't stop Cal's running game then we are up you know what creek without a paddle when we get into the SEC schedule.
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I think Heffney played like crap.. He couldnt tackle anyone, neither could the LBs and did our dline make any stops or do anything positive last night? Our whole defense looked pathetic to me.
Did anyone else see when they scored on a run play, on the left side of the tv screen i think, when Rico decided to lay out a blocker instead of making the tackle?
 
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kptvol said:
It's tough not to give up a lot of points when the other team's offense starts every drive at midfield. The points the offense gave away in the first quarter didn't help, either. Take away the O-Line's failure to pick up a blitzer on the first drive, we get 7 points. Take away horrible coverage on DeSean, we get 7 points. Take away the awesome field position Cal got on every drive, the Bears get a few less points. Give UT the points they should have been able to get when they had first and goal inside the five, and UT wins. There's more problems than just the defense.
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You are so right.Lets go ahead and throw in ST,no vertical threat of a passing game.Also if colquitt doesn't get healthy.We will be giving everyone the ball on the fourty yard line.
 
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dblackwe said:
I think Heffney played like crap.. He couldnt tackle anyone, neither could the LBs and did our dline make any stops or do anything positive last night? Our whole defense looked pathetic to me.
Did anyone else see when they scored on a run play, on the left side of the tv screen i think, when Rico decided to lay out a blocker instead of making the tackle?
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Hef was playing great until he got hurt in the 2nd quarter and Kemp played the rest of the way. I didn't see Hefney after the 2nd quarter now that I think about it.
 
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1. The D-Line is horrible.
2. The tackling is suspect at best. I say suspect because Forsett is a really quick, smaller back.
3. There either isn't a receiving threat capible of making plays down field or there are some serious issues with Ainge's pinky.
4. Cal will not be the best defense the Big Orange face this year; not even close.
5. There have been some periodical play calling issues with Cut. Everyone knew when Ainge was lined up at WR what play was coming, on 3rd down at the goal line. Just not a good sequence of plays.
6. Chavis is going to have to start rushing some linebackers. There hasn't been a pass rush on the hill for a few years now and I don't know if this group of defensive linemen can improve quick enough or at all.
 
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I'm just glad Cal didn't play Best more than they did.

Of course, the way Forsett was running, they didn't need to.
 
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Forsett/Best combo probably has some d-coordinators frightened

that would be the combination to run a direct snap option with
 
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I think it's pretty obvious we need to hire Ron Zook. We can get the same results for millions less. It's just smart business.
 
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The Dude said:
1. The D-Line is horrible.
2. The tackling is suspect at best. I say suspect because Forsett is a really quick, smaller back.
3. There either isn't a receiving threat capible of making plays down field or there are some serious issues with Ainge's pinky.
4. Cal will not be the best defense the Big Orange face this year; not even close.
5. There have been some periodical play calling issues with Cut. Everyone knew when Ainge was lined up at WR what play was coming, on 3rd down at the goal line. Just not a good sequence of plays.
6. Chavis is going to have to start rushing some linebackers. There hasn't been a pass rush on the hill for a few years now and I don't know if this group of defensive linemen can improve quick enough or at all.
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That 3rd down play was poor play call... no one expects EA to catch the ball with a broken pinky tho cut / phil will never be that creative and if they expected lucas to flip to Ea fpr an option... i would rather have had lucas line up in the line and come bak to make an option play... it was so obv that lucas was gonna make a run and they had 3 guys lined up right in front of hime...
 
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how did we get just as many (give or take) points as we did last week, but it seemed they came easier last week. this offense has me confused
 
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dshabs said:
I'm sick and tired of losing in the last minutes, not winning inspite of scoring 31 points. How long will we endure seasons of losing to the LSU's, Florida's and other ranked teams while bragging about beating the Vanderbilts, Kentuckies of the world.

Good bye John C. it's been a good run. Now run away!
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i was ashamed of our defense against the S Miss team tonight. i was going to give you and JC the benefit of the doubt, but i am with you....he is not one to quickly adjust. we will have to outscore everyone
 
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defense improved a little. we have to come out string quickly this week in gatrville and we cannot let these teams jump on us as quick as we have let them.
 
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#23
could someone tell me why we're puking thru ressurrections of week-old threads when we actually just won a game?
 
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dude, what in the hell are you doing..junking up the boards with old threads?...you got time dimensia or something?
 
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