Bye Chaney

#76
#76
Yes Gaurantano is bad. He shows up for a minute, shows some talent and then sucks completely. His look on the side line was disgraceful and lacks any hope.

However, Chaney stunk in 2009, awful at Georgia, and continues awful play calls the past two years. Only reason Chaney was halfway decent was Tyler Bray could sling it, and Georgia running backs were beast. He can’t produce with average players. Boring to watch.
Wrong. I don’t know when the day will come that Guarantano takes his last snap at UT, but the instant that happens Chaney will all of the sudden be considered a good coordinator again. Hopefully we start someone else this weekend, it’s hard to watch an offense handicapped by a 5th year sr, who simply cannot play the position.
 
#77
#77
If Chaney is making the call to start and continue to start JG... then I won't make excuses for him.
 
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#78
#78
Chaney is a good OC. I liked him more than Bobo. That said, his O sucks if the Oline is off that day. See 2016 for us.
 
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#80
yep no one giving UGA credit here. Just shouting at our team
I agree, UGA has better personnel. Shouting at the team is somewhat justified though. The STUPID penalties we accrued - 50 yards and an ejection in the first half, reeks of a lack of discipline that could have made the game closer. Could it be the lack of Spring practice and Fall camp? Dunno - UGA had the same constraints there. Perhaps away game jitters?

As for the defense and the offense - Given the field position on the turnovers - 3 and out (or less than 3) really put the defense on the field WAAAY too long. The goal line stand and stuffing UGA on 4th down was impressive, but the offense put their back to the wall over and over. They were gassed and eventually the dam broke.

One more thought - We have had an less than stellar OL since the days of Dooley or before, with a few bright moments. This OL was/is supposed to be the bee's knees. Trey Smith, Cade Mays.. etc. They sure stunk it up against UGA. The heat JG got revealed his flaws, which have been there the whole time and won't go away. If the OL permits the jailbreak every other down, we need a QB that is fleet of foot, and JG isn't. Let's get some new blood there.
 
#81
#81
Yes Gaurantano is bad. He shows up for a minute, shows some talent and then sucks completely. His look on the side line was disgraceful and lacks any hope.

However, Chaney stunk in 2009, awful at Georgia, and continues awful play calls the past two years. Only reason Chaney was halfway decent was Tyler Bray could sling it, and Georgia running backs were beast. He can’t produce with average players. Boring to watch.

Uhhhhh says the majority of offense coordinators....lol wow
 
#82
#82
Who else?
I need names. I need a good long list of names to justify acting like Chaney is a mediocre SEC OC.
Man I wasn't arguing w you

Just pointing out everyone blaming the OC but could have had a young, creative play caller that everyone seems to think will automatically win
 
#83
#83
Wrong. I don’t know when the day will come that Guarantano takes his last snap at UT, but the instant that happens Chaney will all of the sudden be considered a good coordinator again. Hopefully we start someone else this weekend, it’s hard to watch an offense handicapped by a 5th year sr, who simply cannot play the position.
I hope so!
 
#84
#84
Chaney just like most coordinators do the best they can with what they have. All OCs call bad games that is just part of football. JC has been a part of some very good offenses at multiple programs when he has talent to work with. If UT let him go, he would have no trouble finding another job. He is the best and most accomplished OC we have had since Cutcliffe.
 
#85
#85
You just disproved your entire argument with this comment.
A Georgia 247 guy who has followed them since the 90s said this is the best defense they've ever had.
Yet Chaney is supposed to go beat them with average players?
Please tell me how many SEC caliber OCs are 100% amazing all the time play callers. Who are we going to get?

I agree with most of your statement here but I think we have above average players, specifically the o-line. Great o-lines have played together in the same systeme for years. They are not just made up of good individual players. Ga's great offensive line was able to exploit our lack of experience and knowledge more so than having better players.

The running backs are a different story and we need improvement at that position but really a moot point considering the o line. Not much you can do if you can't protect or run the ball.
 
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#86
Chaney wasn’t even calling plays during Kiffin’s lone year. Funny you leave out his time as OC under Doofus.

Man you folks are insane
Our offense was good under Doofus. Poole ran for over 1000 yards in Dooley's first year and Bray threw for over 3600 in his last year. We also ran for almost 2000 yards in Dooley's last year and averaged 4.7 ypc... Offense wasn't a problem. It was the historically bad defenses that killed the program
 
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Our offense was good under Doofus. Poole ran for over 1000 yards in Dooley's first year and Bray threw for over 3600 in his last year. We also ran for almost 2000 yards in Dooley's last year and averaged 4.7 ypc... Offense wasn't a problem. It was the historically bad defenses that killed the program
I went back a couple months ago and looked at Brays last season.....It was unreal what I saw that I had forgotten....We scored in the middle 30's a few games and lost.....Scored in the 40's and lost.....Scored 50 and lost to Mizzou in OT.
 
#88
#88
I think we are handicapped by Friend's development of players. Blame JG all you want and he deserves some blame, but it all starts upfront. If you can't run block effectively, then pass blocking will also be an issue. No QB can run an offense with 1.5 to 2 secs to get the ball out. WR's can't get into the routes. JG has to see blitz disguises, but the center and the rest of the OL have to see and recognize them too. This effects Chaney's play calling and hard to find plays that will work.
 
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#89
#89
If Chaney is making the call to start and continue to start JG... then I won't make excuses for him.
I'm glad you took this stance. I've been on pins and needles to see your official statement.
 
#90
#90
Oline was terrible. How much of that you put on Friend or Chaney I have no idea. You’ve got a limited offense already in what your starter can do. I thought some of the calls were great on Chaney’s part. As the offensive line got dominated more and JG started to make more mistakes we were really limited in what we could run. I would give a lot of credit to Georgia’s defense.
Our offensive gameplan is about as predictable and stale as they come for three years. The reason is likely JG with his limitations. Play another Qb and we may find out how good an OC Chaney is.
 
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#92
#92
Chaney is a good coach we're lucky to have him, we're just limited because JG can't make a throw down field so what else are we supposed to do? Every team we face loads the box because they know he's not going to beat them over the top even though it's man coverage. So our running game will struggle because of this
 
#93
#93
Wrong. I don’t know when the day will come that Guarantano takes his last snap at UT, but the instant that happens Chaney will all of the sudden be considered a good coordinator again. Hopefully we start someone else this weekend, it’s hard to watch an offense handicapped by a 5th year sr, who simply cannot play the position.

Agreed, hard to judge JC's work without a competent QB to run it.
 
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#94
#94
If I'm watching film of UT games, I'm putting 8 in the box and bringing up the DBs. Blitzing JG a lot and making him beat me.
Not sure why we don’t throw a screen, dump it underneath or hit slants in this case... rather JG holds the ball for 4,5,6 seconds until the pocket calapses and his week hands lose the ball like a hot potato.
 
#95
#95
I think you are confusing game planning with execution. If you have a game plan that is working then all of a sudden it’s not being executed, what are you left to work with? They have to run plays even if it’s from the pee wee playbook. You can only give the players so much and the guy that snaps the ball determines that load
The center? I think the QB is more central to the issue.
 
#96
#96
Not sure why we don’t throw a screen, dump it underneath or hit slants in this case... rather JG holds the ball for 4,5,6 seconds until the pocket calapses and his week hands lose the ball like a hot potato.
Because JG cannot consistently execute the plays necessary to beat the 8 in the box with pressure that is used by everyone to stop him.
 
#97
#97
Yes Gaurantano is bad. He shows up for a minute, shows some talent and then sucks completely. His look on the side line was disgraceful and lacks any hope.

However, Chaney stunk in 2009, awful at Georgia, and continues awful play calls the past two years. Only reason Chaney was halfway decent was Tyler Bray could sling it, and Georgia running backs were beast. He can’t produce with average players. Boring to watch.

He said be careful
 
#99
#99
Can't wait to see the Vols hang 40 on the kittens... We're going to run it down their throats. Gray and Chandler will both go over 100.
 
Yes Gaurantano is bad. He shows up for a minute, shows some talent and then sucks completely. His look on the side line was disgraceful and lacks any hope.

However, Chaney stunk in 2009, awful at Georgia, and continues awful play calls the past two years. Only reason Chaney was halfway decent was Tyler Bray could sling it, and Georgia running backs were beast. He can’t produce with average players. Boring to watch.

You do recall that Chaney was not the play caller in 2009 right? Do you remember we had 3 walk ons starting on the OLine and we basically had the OG JG in one Jonathan Crompton? Crompton didn’t play well until about 10 minutes to go in the Auburn game that year. Crompton and JG are kinda similar. Then look at the play calling, creativity, the PPG, YPG under Bray with Chaney calling the plays. It’s not even close. Chaney didn’t magically forget football all of a sudden, and Pruitt and Fulmer are not in the business of losing football games. We are limited for a variety of reasons. One thing is for certain we would be staring at 9-1 or 10-0 if we had Bray as the QB this season. We are close.
 
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